chocolate milk for recovery?

ianbar
ianbar Posts: 1,354
edited July 2012 in Road beginners
i hear choc milk is good for recovery? a good and much cheaper option than a load of supplements?
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cannondale caad8 tiagra 2012
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  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    Yes.

    Chocolate contains polyphenols which help reduce inflammation. Obviously the milk contains fats and protein.

    No need for expensive recovery products unless you have money to burn
  • zippy483
    zippy483 Posts: 104
    Following my ride today my darling daughter arrived home form her swimming lesson with a mars bar smoothie for me would that count :)
  • ianbar
    ianbar Posts: 1,354
    well i have had a nice glass of chic milk from morrisons, my fiancee was awaiting me with a picnic when i finished so got tucked into some food straight after too, was my longest ride ever up to 55 miles now and could have gone further for sure, wohoo
    enigma esprit
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  • ShutUpLegs
    ShutUpLegs Posts: 3,522
    Just be careful you don't end up taking in more calories than you are burning
  • ianbar
    ianbar Posts: 1,354
    oh i know, i wasn't too worried about such things today it was about getting a good ride in i am having a good go and blasting some fat off in the next few weeks
    enigma esprit
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  • Sesquepidilian
    Sesquepidilian Posts: 83
    'fair bit of sugar in choccy milk though. Do the recovery drinks have less sugar ?
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    edited March 2012
    Sesquepidilian wrote:
    'fair bit of sugar in choccy milk though. Do the recovery drinks have less sugar ?
    Price is the main difference. Insulin spikes draw nutrients to the muscles so you're actually drawing proteins in with the spike. It's a win-win for recovery
  • cookiemonster
    cookiemonster Posts: 668
    > 'fair bit of sugar in choccy milk though. Do the recovery drinks have less sugar ?

    No - SIS Rego for example is 60% Maltodextrin which is a simple sugar similar to glucose and fructose (again similar to glucose)

    +1 on the choco milk

    The other option is to buy the ingredients separately - maltodextrin, fructose and whey protein are very very cheap. It only becomes expensive when you package it in a branded container!

    jon
  • alihisgreat
    alihisgreat Posts: 3,872
    Stanley222 wrote:
    I usually get those Frijj milkshakes - work a treat for me!

    I was loving the limited edition fudge brownie flavour a few weeks ago
  • warrerj
    warrerj Posts: 665
    Mars Milk Refule works every time for me :-)

    http://www.marsrefuel.com/milk-goodness/
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  • Sesquepidilian
    Sesquepidilian Posts: 83
    cookiemonster wrote:
    > 'fair bit of sugar in choccy milk though. Do the recovery drinks have less sugar ?

    No - SIS Rego for example is 60% Maltodextrin which is a simple sugar similar to glucose and fructose (again similar to glucose)

    +1 on the choco milk

    The other option is to buy the ingredients separately - maltodextrin, fructose and whey protein are very very cheap. It only becomes expensive when you package it in a branded container!

    jon

    I found this link after a quick google;

    http://www.freshwaterswimmer.com/2011/0 ... otherwise/

    As the page says, the only issue I have with choccy milk is having to keep enough of it refrigerated. Not to mention carrying all that liquid back from thr supermarket is a pita.
  • ianbar
    ianbar Posts: 1,354
    if storage is an issue how does nesquick or a similar powdered milk compare? it would be a lot easier to keep, i personally would look to only use the choc milk after my longer rides.
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  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    ianbar wrote:
    if storage is an issue how does nesquick or a similar powdered milk compare? it would be a lot easier to keep, i personally would look to only use the choc milk after my longer rides.
    No real reason why it wouldn't work.
  • ianbar
    ianbar Posts: 1,354
    well i will have a look at the powered milk later and compare the stats! can imagine the frijj is pretty high in fat though
    enigma esprit
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  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    Per 200mls milk

    3 TSPN Nesquik = 155cals | 21.2g sugar | 4g fat | 2.5g saturates | 0.28g salt

    Mars Refuel = 172cals | 27.4g sugar | 4g fat | 2.6g saturates | 0.34g salt |3.1g protein per 100lml

    FGS(100ML MILK)= 52cals | 9.4g sugar | 0.1g fat | 0 saturates(I think) | 0.1g Salt | 3.3g protein per 100ml (The 100ml milk throws the actual numbers off :( )

    Frijj Chocolate(per 100ml) = 77cals | 11.4g sugar | 1.2g fat | 0.7g saturates | trace of sodium |3.9g protein per 100ml

    I think though,even pricing all of those,a bag of maltodextrin+whey protein and mixing your own still works out around £50p ea (total guesstimate I haven't done the sums but it won't be much different.
    Example only wrote:
    Myprotein instant whey: 2.5kg bag(£25.99) = 100 25g servings @ 25p ea
    Myprotein maltodextrin: 2.5kg bag(£7.49) = 100 25g servings @ 7pea

    32p per recovery drink (maybe a little more factoring in milk quantity and postage)

    1 serving(25g) of MP IW: 98cals | 20.5g protein | 1.7g fat | 1.5g carbs
    1 serving of MP(25g) M : 95 cals | 23.5g sugar | trace fat |
  • Sesquepidilian
    Sesquepidilian Posts: 83
    I have an (empty!) Choccy Fridge infront of me now and the RDAs from 100ml are;
    Energy 328kJ
    Protein 3.9g
    Carbs 12.6g
    -of which sugars 11.4g
    Fat 1.2g
    -of which saturates 0.7g
    Fibre 0.4g
    Calcium 135mg (17% RDA) - so a bottle gives 85% RDA
    Vitamin B12 0.4ug (16% RDA/bottle 80% RDA)

    While I'm at it, ingredients;
    Skimmed Mik (68%)
    Whole Milk (22%)
    Sugar
    Fat Reduced Cocoa Powder
    Buttermilk Powder
    Modified Maize Starch
    Carrageenan & Guar Gum (stabilisers)
  • t.m.h.n.e.t
    t.m.h.n.e.t Posts: 2,265
    Sesquepidilian wrote:
    I have an (empty!) Choccy Fridge infront of me now and the RDAs from 100ml are;
    Energy 328kJ
    Protein 3.9g
    Carbs 12.6g
    -of which sugars 11.4g
    Fat 1.2g
    -of which saturates 0.7g
    Fibre 0.4g
    Calcium 135mg (17% RDA) - so a bottle gives 85% RDA
    Vitamin B12 0.4ug (16% RDA/bottle 80% RDA)

    While I'm at it, ingredients;
    Skimmed Mik (68%)
    Whole Milk (22%)
    Sugar
    Fat Reduced Cocoa Powder
    Buttermilk Powder
    Modified Maize Starch
    Carrageenan & Guar Gum (stabilisers)
    You listed energy/KJ,the calorie figure as above matters more imo
  • Peddle Up!
    Peddle Up! Posts: 2,040
    Stanley222 wrote:
    I usually get those Frijj milkshakes - work a treat for me!


    +1 V nice.
    Purveyor of "up" :)
  • Alibran
    Alibran Posts: 370
    Alternatively, have a glass of milk and some chocolate, which is what I do.
  • Kolraz
    Kolraz Posts: 47
    I swear by the Nesquik powdered chocolate milk. I have been drinking this as a recovery drink after hard sessions for both running and cycling for about 2 years and it seems to work really well.

    I remember reading somewhere that a carbohydrate to protein ratio of 3:1 is ideal for recovery, which is around the ratio the nesquik stuff has if i remember correctly.
  • BoydD
    BoydD Posts: 68
    noticed a few substituted premiership footballers chugging away on Yazoo banana milk recently.

    check this out:
    http://www.bikeradar.com/gear/category/ ... hake-33963
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  • DonutDad
    DonutDad Posts: 104
    wow, learn something new every time i come on here.

    My question is of quantity - are we talking about a single average half pintish glass of choc milk, or does it depend how long a ride you had? Those frijj drinks are 500ml, are you talking a whole one ?!

    I'm talking about 2 hour rides at the moment
  • Rigged
    Rigged Posts: 214
    Not a chocolate milkshake fan but another who likes the Nesquik milkshake powder (banana for me). If I can be bothered I'll sometimes drop a banana into it and give it a blend. Tastes even nicer that way but creates a bit of extra washing up!

    I also use protein powder if I'm trying to beef up (again banana) because it's a really easy way to get protein added into the diet and again a banana in that makes it 10x nicer to drink, although it's not bad by itself!
  • BigJimmyB
    BigJimmyB Posts: 1,302
    ALIHISGREAT wrote:
    Stanley222 wrote:
    I usually get those Frijj milkshakes - work a treat for me!

    I was loving the limited edition fudge brownie flavour a few weeks ago
    Or Raspberry Donut - nom!
  • ianbar
    ianbar Posts: 1,354
    so sorted for me i will be ring for powered milk i think, might try and get hold of own brand version to cut the cost a little more, at a glance the stats add up similar to the other milks. worse comes to worse i think a glass of milk may have to do!
    enigma esprit
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  • Mad Roadie
    Mad Roadie Posts: 710
    skip the milk 200g of Fruit and Nut does the trick every time
  • andy46
    andy46 Posts: 1,666
    Mad Roadie wrote:
    skip the milk 200g of Fruit and Nut does the trick every time

    No good for me... nut allergy :(

    Glass of milk and a Kit Kat normally, but think I'll try some kind of milkshake after reading this.
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  • JustinLeeAtkinson
    JustinLeeAtkinson Posts: 335
    As mentioned by someone else - Mars Refuel. Tastes great, low fat, specific recovery drink and available in supermarkets, corner shops all over the place basically. Seems to have been on a 2 for £2 deal for ages as well.
  • Headhuunter
    Headhuunter Posts: 6,494
    Cheapest option, pound for pound, is probably to buy myprotein chocolate flavoured impact whey protein. About £40 for 5kg. Mix a scoop with water and hey presto a tasty, protein rich, chocolate flavoured milkshake... Perfect for recovery after a hard ride... You could even start playing around with other ingredients like BCAA or glutamine depending on how far you want to get into recovery nutrition...
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  • Liezel
    Liezel Posts: 1
    edited April 2012
    Chocolate milk are very good because it can restore, repair and build muscle. Chocolate mill was found to a wide variety of benefits helping to burn fat and build muscles.



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