Debate on cycling in HoC

rjsterry

EKE_38BPM wrote:

There are regulations on how far out, how wide etc the lines should be in order to be legal. If they don't conform, they can be flouted and any tickets/penalties appealed and thrown out.
If they are as far out as you suggest, complain and get them either removed or repainted in the right place.

They probably are within those dimensions, but given that the cycle lane is barely 2 feet wide, with a queue of cars tight against the white line, there quite a hazard.
This gives an idea

EKE_38BPM

rjsterry wrote:

EKE_38BPM wrote:

There are regulations on how far out, how wide etc the lines should be in order to be legal. If they don't conform, they can be flouted and any tickets/penalties appealed and thrown out.
If they are as far out as you suggest, complain and get them either removed or repainted in the right place.

They probably are within those dimensions, but given that the cycle lane is barely 2 feet wide, with a queue of cars tight against the white line, there quite a hazard.
This gives an idea

I get you now. Just generally crap infrastructure.
I'd seriously consider complaining to my MP if I were you. I think now is the time to get all of our complaints in. Really hammer home to the MPs that there are a shitload of us and we deserve to be considered when roads are designed, relaided and repainted.

rjsterry

If you know someone who lives in Battersea... my local MP wouldn't be so much use. Seriously though, the difficulty in finding who you should complain to and then how is why so much of this sort of thing never gets sorted

bails87

rjsterry: I just wouldn't be in that cyclelane at all.

veronese68

DonDaddyD wrote:

The roads are for adults even as a youngin I wasn't too sure about riding on the road until I was about 15. Even then I hopped between pavement and road.

There are many reasons why kids don't ride to school along with the roads aren't safe.

You say that, and yet you won't support a campaign to improve matters for more nervous cyclists because you're alright.

dilemna

walkingbootweather wrote:

All done.

I for one am largely encouraged by the enthusiasm of MPs and Ministers at the debate. Lets see if all that talking results in action.

Very unlikely. Talk costs nothing.

rjsterry

bails87 wrote:

rjsterry: I just wouldn't be in that cyclelane at all.

I'd prefer not to be but it's one of those short green phase sets of lights and the queue of traffic often stretches back under the railway as you can see. The alternatives are sitting in the queue for 10-15 minutes or riding down the RHS of the queue - the road is just as cramped with a tiny cycle lane, so if you meet someone coming the other way, there is nowhere to go.

bails87

rjsterry wrote:

bails87 wrote:

rjsterry: I just wouldn't be in that cyclelane at all.

I'd prefer not to be but it's one of those short green phase sets of lights and the queue of traffic often stretches back under the railway as you can see. The alternatives are sitting in the queue for 10-15 minutes or riding down the RHS of the queue - the road is just as cramped with a tiny cycle lane, so if you meet someone coming the other way, there is nowhere to go.

Ah right, just crap infrastructure then.

bails87

Slightly related....My Times reading neighbour dropped the cyclesafe pullout section round for me yesterday.

It seems that last year there were more cyclists killed here in the West Midlands [17] than in London [11] despite there being almost 2 million fewer people and a fraction of the number of cyclists, compared to London.....hmmmmm.

flimflam_machine

Quick summing up of the HOC debate with some speech snippets on the Today programme this morning, including the obligatory RLJ comments. Runs from 47 to 52 minutes and is followed by a piece on Beavers (hurr, hurrr, hurr!)

sketchley

flimflam_machine wrote:

..... a piece on Beavers (hurr, hurrr, hurr!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvWfbIe4X_4

keyser__soze

Hopefully MPs will do something about local councils that put up signs advising drivers to ignore cycle lanes:

"Advisory cycle lane only. Please use as traffic lane"

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=tw9+2tf ... 05,,1,5.39

bails87

Keyser__Soze wrote:

Hopefully MPs will do something about local councils that put up signs advising drivers to ignore cycle lanes:

"Advisory cycle lane only. Please use as traffic lane"

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=tw9+2tf ... 05,,1,5.39

Jesus...."please use this 12 inch wide bit of red tarmac as a traffic lane". Ridiculous, what's the point in putting a lane there if you then tell drivers to drive in it?

sketchley

Keyser__Soze wrote:

Hopefully MPs will do something about local councils that put up signs advising drivers to ignore cycle lanes:

"Advisory cycle lane only. Please use as traffic lane"

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=tw9+2tf ... 05,,1,5.39

That's silly what's the point of it being there if it is only "advisory".

Suggest e-mailing the local MP for that bit as he spoke (I think) in the debate.

Zac Goldsmith MP (Conservative), Member of Parliament for Richmond Park
Constituency Office

12 King Street
Richmond, TW9 1ND

Telephone: 020 8939 0321
Fax: 020 8939 0331
Website: www.zacgoldsmith.com
Parliamentary Office

House of Commons
London SW1A 0AA

Telephone: 020 7219 3000
Email: zac.goldsmith.mp@parliament.uk

keyser__soze

Sketchley, already done so this morning, copying in the council signs department. Awaiting a reply. It's absolutely preposterous and should there be an accident there involving a cyclist I could imagine the council getting into trouble over this sign.