Debate on cycling in HoC

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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    notsoblue wrote:
    Whoa, they mentioned the importance of a liability change...

    High 5!

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    I hate you so much right now.
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    notsoblue wrote:
    Whoa, they mentioned the importance of a liability change...

    High 5!

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    I hate you so much right now.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I hate you so much right now.

    Good job you don't live in Fulham ;)

    I practice what I preach - I've been hitting the streets and pressing local councillors on it - managed to get the only Councillor from my party in my area to start doing stuff about it. She got quite behind it too :).
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Safer man hole covers?

    Is such a wonderous thing even possible? That would go some way to improving the quality of the commute.

    HGV (and driver) training would be great.
    Increased overtake distance.
    ASL policing.
    An ASL at every crossing and if no ASL either timed lights that lets the cyclist go first and then motorised traffic OR allow cyclists to pass through the crossing and wait on the other side (junctions only).

    I do think for balance some form of cycle proficency needs to be established the fact that anyone can get on a bike is an issue, there are some dangerous cyclists out there.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
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    I have the biggest crush on her. I want her.

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
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    I have the biggest crush on her. I want her.

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    You know she's posed topless in some 'gentlemen's (read pervert) magazines?

    You could ask how I know that but it's a thoroughly dull story.
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  • notsoblue
    notsoblue Posts: 5,756
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I hate you so much right now.

    Good job you don't live in Fulham ;)

    I practice what I preach - I've been hitting the streets and pressing local councillors on it - managed to get the only Councillor from my party in my area to start doing stuff about it. She got quite behind it too :).

    I read that as "She's got quite a behind too".
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
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    I have the biggest crush on her. I want her.

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    A former colleague is/was her DJ for her last tour.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Who's the DJ Kayper?

    Rick, thank you for that information. It's a good thing I've got a day off work tomorrow...

    Anyway, how's the Cycle debate going?
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  • notsoblue
    notsoblue Posts: 5,756
    What a brilliant point about the school run. Was just a list item but this should really be emphasized more. The volume of traffic caused by the school run, which is easily a cycleable distance, is huge. Most noticeable by its absence during school holidays. If it was safe enough for kids to cycle to school this wouldn't be a problem. More should be made of this.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I am not sharing the road with 15year olds. No way.
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    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I am not sharing the road with 15year olds. No way.

    Selfish!

    NIMBY cycling :P
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  • notsoblue
    notsoblue Posts: 5,756
    Loads of emphasis on cyclists "Claiming their space" in this debate. Wondering how thats going to be interpreted by joe public.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    notsoblue wrote:
    Loads of emphasis on cyclists "Claiming their space" in this debate. Wondering how thats going to be interpreted by joe public.

    They won't pay much attention.

    More people will have listened to that radio 5 thing this morning than this by a factor of probably 100, if not 1000.
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  • Kieran_Burns
    Kieran_Burns Posts: 9,757
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I am not sharing the road with 15year olds. No way.

    Selfish!

    NIMBY cycling :P

    I'd rather share the road with pre teen / teenage cyclists than their bloody brain dead mothers driving feckin' monstermobiles around.
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    DJ Kayper, who is that?
    The DJ in the picture is DJ Nikki, former colleague.
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    Red lights and pavement cycling.... Doubles all round
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Its good to hear the emphasis on "claiming space" and it being pointed out that it seems to be the pudendum possee who need to be more confident in claiming space/riding primary on the roads.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,771
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I am not sharing the road with 15year olds. No way.
    Can we revisit this when Sprocket is 15 years old?
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
    Its good to hear the emphasis on "claiming space" and it being pointed out that it seems to be the pudendum possee who need to be more confident in claiming space/riding primary on the roads.

    Good word, had to look that up another new word for me this week following on from "tacitly" and "contemporaneous".
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Another drink for RLJing.
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Chinese road planner says cars take up less space on the road than bikes?!
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Another red light drink and one for pavement riding.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Can't listen to any of it.

    What's the point about pavement riding?

    I cycled on the pavement every day to school and back till I was 11.
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  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    Sketchley wrote:
    bails87 wrote:
    EKE_38BPM wrote:

    Anecdotes include a female MP whose husband is her "knight in shining lycra" and who went for a tandem tour for her 50th birthday.
    Commments include safer manhole covers, more training for all drivers (esp HGV), safer overtaking (motorists increasing the distance).
    Fat bloke says he may start cycling.

    It sounds like some of them might have actually thought about this..... :shock:

    Or maybe, just maybe some cyclists have gone to constituency meetings or written to their MP about cycling issues. I know I've done the latter, although Edward Davey MP choose not to respond.....

    Well, that too, but the fact they've paid any attention is suprising, as shown by the response you got.
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  • shouldbeinbed
    shouldbeinbed Posts: 2,660
    Pging Aggieboy, Aggieboy to this thread please.

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    Cyclists need proper little hooters.
  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Can't listen to any of it.

    What's the point about pavement riding?

    I cycled on the pavement every day to school and back till I was 11.

    Kids riding on the road is fine. DDD laying down the Power Awesome, not so much.
    Some adults ride on the pavement and ride too fast, thats the problem.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Can't listen to any of it.

    What's the point about pavement riding?

    I cycled on the pavement every day to school and back till I was 11.

    Kids riding on the road is fine. DDD laying down the Power Awesome, not so much.
    Some adults ride on the pavement and ride too fast, thats the problem.


    Have they been considering why they're there?
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  • EKE_38BPM
    EKE_38BPM Posts: 5,821
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    EKE_38BPM wrote:
    Rick Chasey wrote:
    Can't listen to any of it.

    What's the point about pavement riding?

    I cycled on the pavement every day to school and back till I was 11.

    Kids riding on the road is fine. DDD laying down the Power Awesome, not so much.
    Some adults ride on the pavement and ride too fast, thats the problem.


    Have they been considering why they're there?
    No, but I was the one who mentioned riding too fast on the pavement, not them.

    I don't think it is illegal to ride on the pavement. I may be wrong.
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  • walkingbootweather
    walkingbootweather Posts: 2,443
    "Treat cyclists as if they were a young girl on horseback"

    Does that mean walk behind them with a shovel to pick up the residue after they have gone?
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