Money to burn..................

njee20

Good shout on Yumeya, proper pointless, £40 for a pair of bolts :roll:

As others have said, XT floating rotors really aren't, good rotors they may be, but that's not because of the 2-piece design.

craigw99

different mountain bikes for different activities... downhill i just about get.. but xc/ all mountan - its only a couple of inches travel difference! you just pick a line that suits your ability - what you can do is more man(or woman) than machine imo - yes i'm old school downhilled on ridged forks thought 50mm was huge amounts of travel when i got my Manitou 2's

VWsurfbum

Coloured brake/gear hoses I mean who would do that :oops:
Most other things have been said, but my big bugbear is Chris King anything, Headsets, BB's, Just mental money for something so simple.

tom_howard

VWsurfbum wrote:

Coloured brake/gear hoses I mean who would do that :oops:
Most other things have been said, but my big bugbear is Chris King anything, Headsets, BB's, about the right money for something so awesome.

FTFY

*tin hat deployed*

njee20

Not tried their BBs, and was underwhelmed by their hubs, but King headsets are excellent. I doubt there are any other headsets I'd bother to transfer between bikes. I've got an 8 year old one on my road bike which is absolutely perfect without ever having been touched. The other road bike's gone through 3 in 2 years, and the Cane Creeks on my MTBs don't last 10 minutes. If only MTBs would go back to standard external headsets!

Northwind

My name is Northwind and I'm a titanium-bolt-holic. Pretty much the ultimate in pointlessness IMO, almost all the steel bolts in my C456 are gone and tbh the weight difference is probably tens of grams across the whole bike, what a knob. But still I like knowing they're there.

Talking to the duty ranger at glentress the other day and apparently lots of people think £3 for parking is an unneccesary extravagance

Floating rotors? Nowt but bling IME. Not even very light, usually (my Hopes were heavier than my Formula steel rotors). Classic Hope, make a brake that fades faster than the competition, then make a selling point of it and charge extra for the fix, got to tip your hat to them really.

plugp7 wrote:

Seat clamps more than £5
Hubs more expensive than Deore.

£15 for a good seatclamp is worth it. Not really the biggest Hope fan but they work, and they last. More than I can say for my various cheap clamps, which always either work badly, or work well but not for very long.

Hubs more expensive than deore? That one's just wrong, sorry. Deore are hefty but more importantly lack changable axles, which is a big benefit if you change bikes. False economy if you have to replace your wheels later.

bluechair84

Northwind wrote:

Deore are hefty but more importantly lack changable axles, which is a big benefit if you change bikes. False economy if you have to replace your wheels later.

Vey true, I have a 20mm, 15mm and QR front forks at the moment, and 12mm, 10mm and QR posibilities for the rear... There's only one other standard I think that I don't use! Having a few wheels that can be moved between bikes with adaptors is a massive benefit for me as I don't have to find forks with the right axle, or get new weels for each frame / fork. Adjustability is a godsend. Superstar Evo hubs all the way.

pilch

Guilty...

supersonic

M Parts seat clamps are a fiver, just as good as Hope.

As for hubs, if you don't need the interchangability then is no problem, but I don't see the point in spending more than Superstar (unless you want to go very light). That said, A2Z are good for the money.

I don't know of many who change forks and wheels often! But if you do...

bluechair84

It was from a time when I relied on my Moment for XC and DH, so I often swapped wheels and forks depending on the terrain as I couldn't afford different bikes for different applications. The purchase of the Torque means I'll be doing less swapping in future, and I'll be less likely to knacker the Moment from abusing it.

Add n+1 to the money to burn list

Northwind

supersonic wrote:

M Parts seat clamps are a fiver, just as good as Hope.

That's the name! I had one of those, it was really good while it lasted, which was about 6 months on the Scandal, then it got more and more stubborn and grindy. The Hope one I replaced it with is still going strong.

For wheels... The pro 2s on Flows I bought for the Idrive (QR both ends) stayed with that bike til I replaced the forks (20mm) then moved onto my Hemlock (still QR and 20mm) then went 10mm... Then had them in the C456 for a while with carbon forks (QR again) then finally stuck them in the Herb (20mm front, 12mm rear).

supersonic

I guess I'll be sticking to QR for a while, still not convinced by bolt through, especially for my riding.

oodboo

viewtopic.php?f=10017&t=12787097&start=140

But if I had the money, I would.

plugp7

supersonic wrote:

M Parts seat clamps are a fiver, just as good as Hope.

As for hubs, if you don't need the interchangability then is no problem, but I don't see the point in spending more than Superstar (unless you want to go very light). That said, A2Z are good for the money.

I don't know of many who change forks and wheels often! But if you do...

+1 for the M Parts seat clamp. had one on my P7 for 7 years. Hope one lasted >2 months creaking all the time until bolt snapped. Pure tosh.
As for my original post about Deore, fair point about interchangablity but no use to me. Heavy yes, but added advantage of being adjustable and serviceable with simple tools . Cup and cone rule, OK.

IBISMojoHDamon

supersonic wrote:

I guess I'll be sticking to QR for a while, still not convinced by bolt through, especially for my riding.

Agreed there's no point in upgrading to bolted (QR15) unless you needed a new set of forks but well worth it if you did need a new set of suspenders... I watched an 11st mate come down a droppy section at Swinley with a set of Rockshox SID air's... The side ways flex was scary.... let alone the fore / aft flex which we couldn't see at speed...

Some nice hub companies (Hope / Mavic / King) to name but a few have interchangeable doubies (tech term) that allow for the interchangeability of different hubs (be it at a cost with some).

My old Mavic Crossmax XL's could be anything from 9/10mm QR / 15mm QR Maxle or 20mm bolt through... Simples.

Northwind

plugp7 wrote:

added advantage of being adjustable and serviceable with simple tools . Cup and cone rule, OK.

You can fully strip and rebuild a pro 2 with just 2 32mm sockets and a hammer. No need for special tools like with Shimano

plugp7

Northwind wrote:

plugp7 wrote:

added advantage of being adjustable and serviceable with simple tools . Cup and cone rule, OK.

You can fully strip and rebuild a pro 2 with just 2 32mm sockets and a hammer. No need for special tools like with Shimano

Yeah I've seen the video:-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sKcq9ChVEE
Need to get one of those lump hammers and maybe some 18" stilsons for the bolt through.

cooldad

Northwind wrote:

plugp7 wrote:

added advantage of being adjustable and serviceable with simple tools . Cup and cone rule, OK.

You can fully strip and rebuild a pro 2 with just 2 32mm sockets and a hammer. No need for special tools like with Shimano

Special tools? A set of £6 cone spanners.

But I do love hammers.

supersonic

The hammer is needed to smash the cassette off the freehub ;-)

ryan_w-2

Am I out of my mind?! http://www.readytoridecycles.co.uk/kcnc ... s-39-p.asp

VWsurfbum

Ryan_W wrote:

Am I out of my mind?! http://www.readytoridecycles.co.uk/kcnc ... s-39-p.asp

I have some of these in red on order. reds faster you see.
Cheap Blingy

bluechair84

Ryan_W wrote:

Am I out of my mind?! http://www.readytoridecycles.co.uk/kcnc ... s-39-p.asp

That's nothing compared to a road jockey wheel featured on BR recently... was over a hundred. Can't be arsed to go look for the link.

Rushmore

Ryan_W wrote:

Am I out of my mind?! http://www.readytoridecycles.co.uk/kcnc ... s-39-p.asp

Yes...

njee20

Stock SRAM XX jockey wheels are £120, mine lasted one 4 hour race. Quality.

Now use Mt Zoom, which are cheaper than KCNC (with ceramic bearings) and lasting impressively well.

ryan_w-2

njee20 wrote:

Stock SRAM XX jockey wheels are £120, mine lasted one 4 hour race. Quality.

Now use Mt Zoom, which are cheaper than KCNC (with ceramic bearings) and lasting impressively well.

My lord, that's shocking!!!

Have you got a cheeky link for the Mt Zoom wheels?

guity

Mt Zoom jockey wheels:

http://www.xcracer.com/shop/viewproduct.php?productid=231

I have them on my race bike and no issues so far...

The Rookie

Lightweight tubes - guilty, standard schwalbe for 1.0-1.5" tyres inside a 2.1", 120g instead of about 200g, but then I had to buy the tubes anyway and they were only £3.49 so not guilty of money to burn!

Alligator discs are amongst the lightest you'll get, I have 3 across 2 bikes and spent a total of £18!

Yes I'm a tight wad, but then my Hardtail only cost £525 (smattering of XT, LX, Rocket on Crossrides) and weighs just on 11.5Kg so it works for me!

Simon

njee20

Have you got a cheeky link for the Mt Zoom wheels?

Guity's link is the standard ones, I use the ultralight ones:

Here, been using them since June, the anodising's a bit worn, otherwise fine!

supersonic

I use these:

http://www.dotbike.com/p/3992

As much as I like to save weight, these do just fine!

njee20

**sucks teeth**

They do look heavy ;-)