JTL

okgo

Wouldn't be tht good for Endura if he left, but if he really is the next big thing in the hills, then he has to think of number 1!

Turfle

frosty99 wrote:

Is changing teams allowed or is pro cycling like football with a set period (e.g. sept-dec) for team signings??

I assume Saxo Bank have space for one more?

Everybody seems a little unsure about what it is possible to do. Brian Smith said teams have already asked him about signing Tiernan-Locke for THIS season, so it must at least be possible.

RichN95.

If, like me, you missed the race, you can watch the last two hours (two hours!!) here:

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xottur ... e-19-02_tv

Gazzetta67

Donr want to put pressure on the lad, But is he britain`s New Pantani ???? 8)

Would like to see him up against the 2 bores from Luxembourg.

okgo

impressive video.

He just seems to be able to keep going when it gets steep!

sonny73

Just saw the result and video on Velonation, awesome stuff.

LeicesterLad

He has to be picked up by a big team next year if he keeps riding like this...unreal.

Remarkable

Awesome, nice people don't always finish last.

disquieting_museeuws

The soonest he could sign for a Pro Tour or Pro Continental team would be August 1 (any recruitment to teams in these categories has to respect the transfer window) - I think!

ratsbeyfus

Sonny73 wrote:

Just saw the result and video on Velonation, awesome stuff.

Yep - gotta agree. I watched the climb and thought that I must have misread the result - it didn't look like the guy who jumped into the lead at the foot of the climb could possibly be caught in such a short space of time. Great stuff!

sonny73

ratsbeyfus wrote:

Sonny73 wrote:

Just saw the result and video on Velonation, awesome stuff.

Yep - gotta agree. I watched the climb and thought that I must have misread the result - it didn't look like the guy who jumped into the lead at the foot of the climb could possibly be caught in such a short space of time. Great stuff!

Indeed, he timed it to perfection, very impressive.

sonny73

The 10 previous winners of Haut Var certainly does justice as to what a great win for JTL and of course Endura this was. Chapeau that man.

2002 Laurent Jalabert
2003 Sylvain Chavanel
2004 Marc Lotz
2005 Philippe Gilbert
2006 Leonardo Bertagnolli
2007 Filippo Pozzato
2008 Davide Rebellin
2009 Thomas Voeckler
2010 Christophe Le Mével
2011 Thomas Voeckler
2012 Jonathan Tiernan-Locke

ozzzyosborn206

incredible first few races for him, be interesting to see if he jumps ship or stays with endura if as expected they make the jump to pro conti for 2013, such a shame he got ill a few years ago otherwise he could have had a massive career, thats not to say he won't yet, he could do nothing else all year and it would still have been a very good year

napoleond

Ignore!

squired

My guess is that he has aimed to peak during this part of the season. Endura will probably switch to domestic races soon, where he won't need to be at such a high level. If you are aiming to get a contract for a bigger team, you want to make sure you are at your best for races outside Britain. On that basis it would be hard to predict how he would perform in a bigger race which is being targeted by star riders. Having said that, he now has 5 wins this season, which is the same number Ben Swift got last year. Great ride and brilliant for the Endura team. I'm sure lots of people were expecting the star rider for Endura to be a certain former Team Sky rider, but right now JTL is definitely the face of the team.

frenchfighter

Current CQ ranking:

1. (48) GERRANS Simon GEC 16/05/1980 406
2. (100) BOONEN Tom OPQ 15/10/1980 303
3. (685) TIERNAN-LOCKE Jonathan EDR 26/12/1984 291
4. (20) GREIPEL Andre LTB 16/07/1982 264
5. (79) MACHADO Tiago Jose Pinto RNT 18/10/1985 256
6. (88) VIVIANI Elia LIQ 07/02/1989 256
7. (-) VALVERDE BELMONTE Alejandro MOV 25/04/1980 242
8. (12) BOASSON HAGEN Edvald SKY 17/05/1987 233
9. (238) PORTE Richie SKY 30/01/1985 215
10. (22) NIBALI Vincenzo LIQ 14/11/1984 205

mroli

Thanks FF - presumably all these points that JTL has gained will help Endura on their mission to rise the pro ranks?

frenchfighter

Aux tentatives d'échappée répondent d'autres tentatives d'échappée. Le peloton revient toujours, mais il est de moins en moins imposant. Et l'on aperçoit déjà un homme au-dessus de tous à 10 kilomètres de l'arrivée, quand la course s'engage à nouveau sur les routes du col de Montauroux. Maillot vert du classement par points sur le dos, Jonathan Tiernan-Locke (Endura Racing) est facile, très facile. En tête de peloton, il fait la différence mais n'insiste pas, grimpant Montauroux les yeux franchement tournés sur ce qui se passe derrière son épaule gauche. Il ne s'y passe pas grand-chose, sinon des coureurs inférieurs au Britannique de 27 ans qui vient de remporter le Tour Méditerranéen à la surprise générale et a encore frappé les esprits hier en se classant 3ème de l'étape et en prenant 5 secondes au peloton dans le dernier kilomètre !
Il y a danger à se présenter au pied du mur de Fayence avec Tiernan-Locke. Alors quatre coureurs jaillissent du peloton réduit à une quinzaine d'unités après Montauroux (et à bord duquel s'accroche encore Romain Hardy) : Simon Clarke (GreenEdge), Julien El Farès (Team Type 1-Sanofi Aventis), Thibaut Pinot (FDJ-BigMat) et Julien Simon (Saur-Sojasun). Le quatuor aborde la montée finale doté d'un avantage certain sur ses poursuivants, et Julien Simon se jette sans retenue dans une montée colossale. Le Français grimace. Dans son calvaire, il ne voit heureusement pas avec quelle facilité revient Jon Tiernan-Locke, sorti comme un boulet de canon du groupe poursuivant et qui revient les doigts dans le nez sur tous ses devanciers ! Comme insensible à la rampe qui se dresse sous ses roues, le Britannique s'en va encore triompher avec une aisance insolente, s'adjugeant l'étape et le classement général du Tour du Haut Var.

cal_stewart

ozzzyosborn206 wrote:

incredible first few races for him, be interesting to see if he jumps ship or stays with endura if as expected they make the jump to pro conti for 2013, such a shame he got ill a few years ago otherwise he could have had a massive career, thats not to say he won't yet, he could do nothing else all year and it would still have been a very good year

Very good point as endura will be targeting the races which will be there best chance for points. Early season is one of the times that high level riders are not at there best. Still good luck to the fella

jimmythecuckoo

Wouldn't bet against him for the Rutland/Melton this year, he should be able to manage our little hillocks with ease.

sonny73

Chapeau.

okgo

He's got some legs on him for someone who weighs 60kg!

sonny73

okgo wrote:

He's got some legs on him for someone who weighs 60kg!

Yeh, indeed!

frenchfighter

Just watched the video. Pleasure. He climbs like Contador : ) Bobbbing, out the saddle, with ease and with many glances back at the beginning.

dave_1

I see on Endura team's upcoming schedule in the next 4 weeks is Tour of Murcia and then a 4 day Italian stage race that top Italian teams have done in past years, Settimana Internazionale Coppi e Bartali... so JTL hopefully will stay with Endura another month and win again..great to see a small budget team show Sky how to find and develop a talent that clearly Sky's British managers/directors had not much noticed

Pross

Cracking result but I can't help wondering what the cynics on here would have been saying if he were South American or Spanish! It will certainly ease the pressure his DS was feeling a few weeks back following the money that has been invested into the team. Hopefully they'll be moving up to pro conti soon.

dave_1

Pross wrote:

Cracking result but I can't help wondering what the cynics on here would have been saying if he were South American or Spanish! It will certainly ease the pressure his DS was feeling a few weeks back following the money that has been invested into the team. Hopefully they'll be moving up to pro conti soon.

showing a lack of knowledge I am, but does a team in Endura's new situation have to hang around a whole year to upgrade to pro conti in 2013 or can they move up mid-season 2012??

Pross

I think it is on a season by season basis - I don't understand the system either. I had thought you apply for a licence and have to put bonds in place to cover rider wages if the team folds for pro conto and pro tour.

LangerDan

AFAIK, there is no mechanism to change status mid-season. All the rules are based on submitting a pre-qualification in the previous year to be awarded a licence. The only way around the submission schedule is if they were a ProTour team who had their PT licence application rejected for 2012


In any case, the step-up to ProConti may be far beyond what the sponsor wishes to contribute or how the squad can perform. Going to ProConti requires the guarantees to go from €20K to €250K, signing up to the biological passport programme (and all the costs that brings) etc. With this level of investment will come the usual sh1tfight for UCI points to gain entry to races (and exposure for the sponsors) and a move to sign riders with points rather than help develop "point-less" young riders.
There are also limitations on the number of new pros that can be in the squad each year.

The window for rider transfers (witihn the current season) doesn't open until 1st August.

blazing_saddles

Finally watched the whole 2 hours worth from France 3.
None other than Raymond Poulidor tipped him to win.
Not only impressive on the final climb, but he bullied the whole bunch
on the penultimate climb, as well.

Looks to be the real McCoy, but until this month, missed by almost every "expert", even the forum variety.