Party Planning for Thatcher's death...

Vesterberg

...so, how do you plan to celebrate?

Maybe a big pi$$ up down the pub?
Or maybe a more respectful celebration - just a few drinks with friends?
Or perhaps a themed/fancy dress party?

I suspect there will be something big planned in Liverpool so I might take a trip up there to join in the revelry.

I know this was discussed recently on here, but I'm keen to get some ideas on board as it looks like it won't be long now.

Best wishes for 2012 all.

V

Frank the tank

I've always promised myself two days off work on the event of her sad demise, one to get bladdered with likeminded none tory mates and one to get over it.

sungod

karaoke street party, with only one song option...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4BCUWopQQ4

sing along now, ding dong, the witch is dead...

dg74

I'm quite sure that anywhere North of the Watford Gap will be celebrating her demise.

I'd normally never participate in celebrating the passing of someone, but this woman I will gladly make an exception for.

Pete White

Quite a few places south of Watford too, though I doubt the accumulated arseholes in Wiltshire will be joining in.

I hope they don't bother wit a funeral, and just chuck her in any old hole, just like she did with "society"

verylonglegs

Thankfully no such bitterness exists in my life.

Pete White

not bitter mate, just believe that most of our woes at the moment can be laid at her and her government's door. She was a shop-keeper and has turned the nation into a nation of shop keepers, and as such, we don't make much any more.

Was interested in the fact that the tunnelling machines that are going to be used to dig the Crossrail tunnels in London are German. Guess we don't make anything like that any more (or won't make it cheap enough) Similar issue with the Bombadier thing in Derby.

So, no, I'm not bitter too much, but I can surely understand why some people would be.... I personally will never forgive the "no such thing as society" line. From then the nation was properly screwed!

dg74

verylonglegs wrote:

Thankfully no such bitterness exists in my life.

She fundamentally buggered this country up for a very, very, very long time. Sold us down the river on practically everything. Scrapped a whole lot of industry and replaced it with what? Call centres? Open spaces? Nothing!!

Sod the b!tch - let her rot.

ilm_zero7

sick .... but for many she stopped the rot before it became a cancer... perhaps without that interception we would have got to the chocking state Brown and Blair left a good decade sooner?

markos1963

I'm not the sort of person to celebrate death but I won't be sorry when she goes. She sold our country for the sake of her beliefs. All that North Sea oil revenue used to pay for millions of unemployed so she could hold sway over the Unions and destroy manufacturing and mining industries. Her love of money and the money industry have put us where we are today with the banks holding whole nations and continents to ransom. No, I won't be mourning her coming demise.

verylonglegs

Genuine question, anyone have any examples of which manufacturing industires where specifically 'destroyed' by her?

desweller

The unions and the parlous state of British industry at the end of the 70s created an environment where it was inevitable that someone like her would end up in power. I'm not saying she was good (I'm no fan by any means), but we in the manufacturing sector were made to reap what we'd sown when she came to power.

Mr_Cellophane

I won't be holding a party, but I may raise a glass to a great Prime Minister. One who stood up to the unions and bureaucrats in Europe who were trying to drag Britain down.

finchy

verylonglegs - how do you judge if Thatcher's lot were (or weren't) responsible for the closure of a particular industry or factory?

I think that what upsets people the most is the entire communities destroyed during the 80s, as much as the industry.

finchy

Mr_Cellophane wrote:

I won't be holding a party, but I may raise a glass to a great Prime Minister. One who stood up to the unions and bureaucrats in Europe who were trying to drag Britain down.

Were it not for the unions we wouldn't have sick leave, paid holidays, protection against unfair dismissal, etc.

Whatever the faults of the unions (and I know that they have them), we'd be a hell of a lot better off with them than without.

LeicesterLad

Vesterberg wrote:

...so, how do you plan to celebrate?

Maybe a big pi$$ up down the pub?
Or maybe a more respectful celebration - just a few drinks with friends?
Or perhaps a themed/fancy dress party?

I suspect there will be something big planned in Liverpool so I might take a trip up there to join in the revelry.

I know this was discussed recently on here, but I'm keen to get some ideas on board as it looks like it won't be long now.

Best wishes for 2012 all.

V

Im waiting for your mum to pop off, then ill have the whole shebang :roll:

verylonglegs

johnfinch wrote:

verylonglegs - how do you judge if Thatcher's lot were (or weren't) responsible for the closure of a particular industry or factory?

That is my point somewhat, this 'she destroyed manufacturing' is often thrown around as if she rolled up to a massively profitable and competitive industry and proceeded to pull it apart where as the truth is that something like the car industry in this country had problems that began a decade before she took the reigns of power. A statement along the lines that she failed to support and solve the problems facing an industry would be more accurate but people prefer the lazy blame in one place answer.

OffTheBackAdam

She was the best Prime Minister we've had.
Our large, unionised, manufacturing industry was dying, ditto the mines.
You lot aren't looking very far to see what manufacturing we have today. Frank, take a ride around Pinxton, see how much manufacturing is going off there today.
Anyone been around Coventry lately? See how many industrial estates there are.
If you want to know the real reason behind the banking crisis, take a look at the socialist policies responsible for the demise of Freddie Mac & Fannie May.
Take a long look at the socialist policies behind the wonders of the EU.
Ask why contracts for major projects have been awarded oversees, how many by your darling socialist government of Blair & Brown?
Take a look at the socialist policies behind the social crisis we have, with the number of broken families, who just expect "The Social" to sort out all their problems and fund their lifestyles.
Get your heads out of your arses & look around at the realities of socialism.

LeicesterLad

OffTheBackAdam wrote:

She was the best Prime Minister we've had.
Our large, unionised, manufacturing industry was dying, ditto the mines.
You lot aren't looking very far to see what manufacturing we have today. Frank, take a ride around Pinxton, see how much manufacturing is going off there today.
Anyone been around Coventry lately? See how many industrial estates there are.
If you want to know the real reason behind the banking crisis, take a look at the socialist policies responsible for the demise of Freddie Mac & Fannie May.
Take a long look at the socialist policies behind the wonders of the EU.
Ask why contracts for major projects have been awarded oversees, how many by your darling socialist government of Blair & Brown?
Take a look at the socialist policies behind the social crisis we have, with the number of broken families, who just expect "The Social" to sort out all their problems and fund their lifestyles.
Get your heads out of your arses & look around at the realities of socialism.

Finally, someone who know's something.

pauldavid

LeicesterLad wrote:

Vesterberg wrote:

...so, how do you plan to celebrate?

Maybe a big pi$$ up down the pub?
Or maybe a more respectful celebration - just a few drinks with friends?
Or perhaps a themed/fancy dress party?

I suspect there will be something big planned in Liverpool so I might take a trip up there to join in the revelry.

I know this was discussed recently on here, but I'm keen to get some ideas on board as it looks like it won't be long now.

Best wishes for 2012 all.

V

Im waiting for your mum to pop off, then ill have the whole shebang :roll:

Count me in as well, should be a good do, she's always liked a drink.

Well I say always, I mean since Vesterberg learnt to speak

finchy

OffTheBackAdam wrote:

She was the best Prime Minister we've had.
Our large, unionised, manufacturing industry was dying, ditto the mines.
You lot aren't looking very far to see what manufacturing we have today. Frank, take a ride around Pinxton, see how much manufacturing is going off there today.
Anyone been around Coventry lately? See how many industrial estates there are.
If you want to know the real reason behind the banking crisis, take a look at the socialist policies responsible for the demise of Freddie Mac & Fannie May.
Take a long look at the socialist policies behind the wonders of the EU.
Ask why contracts for major projects have been awarded oversees, how many by your darling socialist government of Blair & Brown?
Take a look at the socialist policies behind the social crisis we have, with the number of broken families, who just expect "The Social" to sort out all their problems and fund their lifestyles.
Get your heads out of your arses & look around at the realities of socialism.

The EU is committed to the free market by its own constitution.

How, exactly, were socialist policies responsible for the demise of Mac and May? Was the bank taken over by the workers?

Spending on welfare was higher under the Tories in absolute terms and as a % of GDP than under Labour. And if our "socialist" policies are behind our social crisis, then how come far more leftist policies on the continent aren't having the same effect?

Yes, contracts for major projects have been awarded to overseas companies, maybe that's because those countries support their industries, rather than just leaving them to pretty much fend for themselves.

Let me suggest that you take a few months to go and see another part of the world, and also invest in dictionary which contains the definition of words such as "socialism" and "capitalism". Then you can start talking about reality.

finchy

Anyway, we really shouldn't all start arguing just because markwalker/blackpanther's latest creation has decided to indulge in a bit of trolling.

markos1963

verylonglegs wrote:

johnfinch wrote:

verylonglegs - how do you judge if Thatcher's lot were (or weren't) responsible for the closure of a particular industry or factory?

That is my point somewhat, this 'she destroyed manufacturing' is often thrown around as if she rolled up to a massively profitable and competitive industry and proceeded to pull it apart where as the truth is that something like the car industry in this country had problems that began a decade before she took the reigns of power. A statement along the lines that she failed to support and solve the problems facing an industry would be more accurate but people prefer the lazy blame in one place answer.

True and I have to apologise for using the term 'destroy'. Yes they did stand back and allow it to die a death during the recession of the late seventies. That played into what Thatcher wanted though. The Unions weren't blameless but with a confrontational PM who was spoiling for a fight there was never a chance of a rational outcome.

markos1963

OffTheBackAdam wrote:

Ask why contracts for major projects have been awarded oversees, how many by your darling socialist government of Blair & Brown?

Not by any stretch of my imagination could I call Blair and Brown sociallists

bianchimoon

V[/quote]

Im waiting for your mum to pop off, then ill have the whole shebang :roll:[/quote]

I'll come to that party as well, raise a glass and reflect on how proud she must have been of her son and his bitter, sad life

ilm_zero7

markos1963 wrote:

OffTheBackAdam wrote:

Ask why contracts for major projects have been awarded oversees, how many by your darling socialist government of Blair & Brown?

Not by any stretch of my imagination could I call Blair and Brown sociallists

indeed..."incapable wreckers" would be better

Vesterberg

bianchimoon wrote:

V

Im waiting for your mum to pop off, then ill have the whole shebang :roll:[/quote]

I'll come to that party as well, raise a glass and reflect on how proud she must have been of her son and his bitter, sad life[/quote]

thanks guys! Bitter, moi? Shurely Shome Mishtake! Note that there is an important difference between angry and bitter. Guess you were never directly affected by the Witch which might account for your different outlooks. Fair enough, it's a free country and your entitled to your ignorant opinions.

bianchimoon

beg to differ, maggie made it possible for me to escape the grasp of the unions and ultimately start my own business. It's not black and white out there, for every one person out there who has the opportunity, drive, ambition, need or whatever it takes to go it alone, there is another one who prefers the perceived safety and comfort of a union behind them. Truth is whatever political party is in power it's not going to suit everyone and to post about the joy you'll feel in the death of another human being does you no credit.

bianchimoon

but hey it's cake stop so you're entitled to your say

Soni

Just checked the news, there is no news that she has deteriorated is there?

Or have i missed something? :?

Vesterberg

bianchimoon wrote:

beg to differ, maggie made it possible for me to escape the grasp of the unions and ultimately start my own business. It's not black and white out there, for every one person out there who has the opportunity, drive, ambition, need or whatever it takes to go it alone, there is another one who prefers the perceived safety and comfort of a union behind them. Truth is whatever political party is in power it's not going to suit everyone and to post about the joy you'll feel in the death of another human being does you no credit.

That's great news.....for you. Shame about the thousands, nay millions she shat upon - or allowed the Gucci heeled boots of the upwardly mobile set to crush. Self betterment is all well and good - but it should not (never?) always be measured in how much loofah you made for yourself (or 'for Britain!'). As for exultation in the death of a fellow human being? Sure it's repulsive - but I'm happy to make an exception