Pasteys new Azonic Avenger W.I.P.

pastey_boy

just fitted the hive crankarms to my bike, look like solid bits of kit but the interesting thing is the bottom bracket. the crankarms have a 30mm axle and run on bb30 sized bearings but in a conventional 68mm bb shell. has anyone tried to fit bb 30 cranks to a normal bb using the hive/e-thirteen bb set up ? to the crankarms ive fitted a raceface steel 22t inner and an xt composite 32t middle and ive gone back to the k-edge lightweight bash. i tried a 26-36t setup and found the climbs a bit of a struggle . also put my charge spoon leather/ti saddle back on as i noticed i had slightly bent the rails on the koobi saddle. with my planned tyre change the weight will come down to 29.5lbs.

Beatmaker

Looking good!

lawman

i cant really see how a bb30 crank would work with the hive bb, surely the crank interface with the bearings is completely worng, and im fairly sure if it did work, we would have heard about it from somewhere.

pastey_boy

lawman wrote:

i cant really see how a bb30 crank would work with the hive bb, surely the crank interface with the bearings is completely worng, and im fairly sure if it did work, we would have heard about it from somewhere.

the interface should be the same ie axle passes through and bearing tension is achieved via whatever means the crank manufacturer uses, either preload cap like shimano or spacers like raceface and so on, the sticking point would be axle length. i need to get hold of a bb30 chainset to try it out. the hive bb uses the exact same size of bearing that bb30 employs so there should be a slim chance of it working..

pastey_boy

here are the latest pics with new and old bits in place.

pastey_boy

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims and build them onto a pair of stans ztr hubs i have knocking about, if i lace them with revolution spokes it will save just over 200 grams on my current set up of flows/superstar hubs/sapim race db spokes. im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found. it will cost me £120 for the white flow rims, £12 for the red brass nipples and £46 for the revolution spokes, as i said i already have a pair of stans ztr 15mm front/135 rear hubs which i picked up for a silly £45 courtesy of ebay. so for just over £200 i will have a set of 1700 gram tubeless wheels that should take a hammering. ive used revolutions on heavy duty builds before with no problems but i always go for brass nipples after experiencing many failures on a set of roval traversees. ive also just found a conversion kit so the rear ztr hub will take my 10mm thru axle qr

leaflite

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims ... im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found.

I wondered how long it would be...

pastey_boy

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims ... im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found.

I wondered how long it would be...

oh come on you know this bikes crying out for some sweet white hoops. sun ringle's charger pro's in white look like they would suit the bike but at over £400 a pair it would be silly when i can build a set of similar wheels that will weigh slighty less and cost half the price. after the wheel change i cant really see anything else i would i change unless something breaks. i nearly bought a reverb after my ks remote kept sticking when dirty but ive sorted that issue.

Muttly1981

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims and build them onto a pair of stans ztr hubs i have knocking about, if i lace them with revolution spokes it will save just over 200 grams on my current set up of flows/superstar hubs/sapim race db spokes. im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found. it will cost me £120 for the white flow rims, £12 for the red brass nipples and £46 for the revolution spokes, as i said i already have a pair of stans ztr 15mm front/135 rear hubs which i picked up for a silly £45 courtesy of ebay. so for just over £200 i will have a set of 1700 gram tubeless wheels that should take a hammering. ive used revolutions on heavy duty builds before with no problems but i always go for brass nipples after experiencing many failures on a set of roval traversees. ive also just found a conversion kit so the rear ztr hub will take my 10mm thru axle qr

Where do you get your spokes from? DT Revolutions are stupidly cheap from ROSE bikes at 49p each where Winstanleys are 99p each

leaflite

pastey_boy wrote:

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims ... im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found.

I wondered how long it would be...

oh come on you know this bikes crying out for some sweet white hoops.

Tbh, I think that it looks good as it is and that any more white will ruin it. I would keep the current rims.

pastey_boy

Muttly1981 wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims and build them onto a pair of stans ztr hubs i have knocking about, if i lace them with revolution spokes it will save just over 200 grams on my current set up of flows/superstar hubs/sapim race db spokes. im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found. it will cost me £120 for the white flow rims, £12 for the red brass nipples and £46 for the revolution spokes, as i said i already have a pair of stans ztr 15mm front/135 rear hubs which i picked up for a silly £45 courtesy of ebay. so for just over £200 i will have a set of 1700 gram tubeless wheels that should take a hammering. ive used revolutions on heavy duty builds before with no problems but i always go for brass nipples after experiencing many failures on a set of roval traversees. ive also just found a conversion kit so the rear ztr hub will take my 10mm thru axle qr

Where do you get your spokes from? DT Revolutions are stupidly cheap from ROSE bikes at 49p each where Winstanleys are 99p each

was getting them from crc but rose now looks favourite although they fu@#ed my last order up. and they cost 45p each if bought in 20's or more.

Muttly1981

pastey_boy wrote:

Muttly1981 wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims and build them onto a pair of stans ztr hubs i have knocking about, if i lace them with revolution spokes it will save just over 200 grams on my current set up of flows/superstar hubs/sapim race db spokes. im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found. it will cost me £120 for the white flow rims, £12 for the red brass nipples and £46 for the revolution spokes, as i said i already have a pair of stans ztr 15mm front/135 rear hubs which i picked up for a silly £45 courtesy of ebay. so for just over £200 i will have a set of 1700 gram tubeless wheels that should take a hammering. ive used revolutions on heavy duty builds before with no problems but i always go for brass nipples after experiencing many failures on a set of roval traversees. ive also just found a conversion kit so the rear ztr hub will take my 10mm thru axle qr

Where do you get your spokes from? DT Revolutions are stupidly cheap from ROSE bikes at 49p each where Winstanleys are 99p each

was getting them from crc but rose now looks favourite although they fu@#ed my last order up.

I ordered a few bits of clothing before christmas both arrived within a week and saved a fortune in the process, will defo use them again

pastey_boy

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims ... im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found.

I wondered how long it would be...

oh come on you know this bikes crying out for some sweet white hoops.

Tbh, I think that it looks good as it is and that any more white will ruin it. I would keep the current rims.

you should know by now that i dont stop until the bike is utterly ruined

lawman

pastey_boy wrote:

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims ... im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found.

I wondered how long it would be...

oh come on you know this bikes crying out for some sweet white hoops.

Tbh, I think that it looks good as it is and that any more white will ruin it. I would keep the current rims.

you should know by now that i dont stop until the bike is utterly ruined

imo it was ruined well before you even bought it but each to there own i guess

Thewaylander

lawman wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

leaflite wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

i fancy a set of white wheels so im going to buy a pair of white flow rims ... im also going to use some trick red brass nipples ive found.

I wondered how long it would be...

oh come on you know this bikes crying out for some sweet white hoops.

Tbh, I think that it looks good as it is and that any more white will ruin it. I would keep the current rims.

you should know by now that i dont stop until the bike is utterly ruined

imo it was ruined well before you even bought it but each to there own i guess

Funny thing though, i prefer this to the IBIS a good honest hard hitting 6" supposadly if set up right, not sure about the shock choice up front a good set of 36's would reqward, but i'd feel alot less worried thrashing that

pastey_boy

the revelations are a remarkable fork for their weight, i weighed this pair at 3.86lbs which is amazing for a fork that can take a good kicking. due to weight training my weight hovers between 17/18 stones so im no lightweight yet the forks hold there line and ive yet to bottom them (i run 170psi in both plus and negative chambers) a 20mm maxle and tapered set up would add lots more stiffnes but as it stands i dont feel i need it. i was goin to fit either coil lyriks or fox 36's originally but carrying over a pound of extra weight for the sake of 10mm of travel didnt make sense to me,also a longer fork would have made the high bb even higher. ive got both front and rear shocks set up perfectly for me and couldnt be happier with the bike. i do love the mojo and had set my heart on one but there is the niggling doubt of rock damage to the down tube, i dented a brand new ti frame on its first ever ride on its downtube in front of the bb, if i had been a board a carbon bike i reckon the damage would have been catastrophic.

pastey_boy

just found some black bladed spokes and red brass nipples for my new wheel build. should look really posh with white flow rims and black stans ztr hubs, wheel weight should be 1750 grams for the pair if my calculations are right. spokes and nipples will come from china so not in any great hurry. also got a pair of bontrager 2.35 xr4 team issue tubeless ready tires on their way too and hopefully an easton carbon dh riser bar. i am slightly tempted to go for the new stans arch ex rims instead of the flows, using them would drop the wheelset weight down to 1570 grams. they are marketed as an aggressive xc/trail rim but as they have only just been released there is not a lot of feedback yet. will decide in the next couple of days either way.

pastey_boy

heres a vid of the azonics maiden voyage, it would have been faster but lots of trail gays got in my way.
http://vimeo.com/35594952

pastey_boy

just ordered a pair of nobby nic 2.25's tubeless ready tyres in the rather swanky graphite colourway. got them online frome a german retailer for the grand price of £55 posted for the pair. the tyres will save a pound of weight over the bonty 2.35 xr4's i currently have fitted. the xr4's come up large and are as big if not bigger than some 2.5's ive used in the past, they're light for their size but clearance is tight near the bb. also swapped the answer protaper am bars for a pair of easton monkey dh bars thus saving another 100 grams, also swapped the superstar excel grips for a pair of odi intense lock ons which saved another 80 grams. when i have built the new wheels i mention above the bike should weigh in the region of 28lbs with no loss of performance or strength.

pastey_boy

ive got the nobby nic tubeless tyres fitted, not as easy as the full ust version but i got there in the end. they look very differerent as they are the greyish graphite version. bike weight with the tyres fitted is a smidge under 30lbs so when i put the new wheels on it should come to just under 29lbs, not bad for a bike with dh wheels, brakes, dropper post and 150mm each end. the lighter tyres have made a huge difference to the feel of the bike.

pastey_boy

ive taken the plunge and ordered a set of white stans arch ex rims, black bladed aero spokes and red brass nipples. all up weight should be around 1600 grams give or take a bit. i reckon they should be strong enough as the rims are similar to my old roval traversees which took my weight although the alloy nips didnt, plus my build will have more spokes too. will keep my current wheels as spares just in case.

sanchez89

loving the stealth tyres, are they the same sort that normally come as OEM on cube bikes??

the arch ex rims are a narrow xc style rim, but with the crest's newer internal locking design yeah?

you found it difficult to mount those nics up then, thought flows were supposed to be easy for any tyres.

great looking bike aswell. has the KS post been reliable?

pastey_boy

the tyres are actually aftermarket tubeless ready ones, not widely available over here but cheap as chips from germany. the arch ex's are marketed as an aggressive xc model so i reckon that should put them close to mavics 719/819 models. i used to thrash a pair of old mavic x618 cd's with stans tubeless conversion and they held up well. had the post over a year and it has been spot on apart from problems with contamination of the remote cable but i have fitted sealed ferrules which seems to have sorted the problem.
as for mounting the nobby nics, they were quite loose fitting on the rims so lots of gaps. in the end i swilled the fluid around the beads then pumped like a mad man with my track pump, front one took a while but the rear didnt give me half as much trouble. they didnt lose any pressure over night.

pastey_boy

im still waiting for the bits for my new wheels to arrive but ive also just ordered the bits to go 1 X 10. im getting rid of my 9spd xtr gear and instead im going to run a sram xx med cage rear mech, 10 spd slx 11-36 cassette and a single 32 ring up front. for the shifter im being a bit experimental as im going to try a sram flatbar 10spd doubletap shifter. i love doubletap controls on my roadie so i will give it a go. driving the set up will be a pimp gold kmc chain and keeping the chain on will be a single ring device from superstar. if i dont like the shifter i will get either a sram xx or x0 trigger although i have my fingers crossed that sram will bring out their rumoured 10 spd gripshifts. im hoping 32-36 will be ok for the steep stuff. a quick estimation of weight saved by switching to a 1 x 10 set up will be 345 grams, add that to the 300 i will be saving on the wheels and the bike should weigh 28ish lbs when finished. i could go for a superlight cassette but i have broken far too many xtr cassettes for it to make economic sense.

bonezy

pastey_boy wrote:

lots of trail gays got in my way.

:roll:

tom_howard

Will said xtr gear be making an appearance in the classifieds?

pastey_boy

Tom Howard wrote:

Will said xtr gear be making an appearance in the classifieds?

yes it will be shifters, f+r mechs (carbon shadow/34.9mm high clamp dual pull) hg80 11/34 cassette and wipperman brass coated chain. prbably be sometime next week , i will be listing quite a lot of gear as i seem to have built quite a surplus.

pastey_boy

spokes and nipples have arrived. the spokes are black bladed stainless and weigh in the same as dt swiss comps so my wheel build will be 100 grams heavier than i originally planned, i was going to use dt revolutions but 2nd thoughts about strength changed my mind. the wheels will now weigh 1695 for the pair but should be much stronger and the bladed spokes look smart too. hopefully the rims and all the bits i need for my 1x10 conversion will arrive in the next couple of days so i can get the bike ready for this coming weekend.

jay12

pastey_boy wrote:

could go for a superlight cassette but i have broken far too many xtr cassettes for it to make economic sense.

you've changed

pastey_boy

jay12 wrote:

pastey_boy wrote:

could go for a superlight cassette but i have broken far too many xtr cassettes for it to make economic sense.

you've changed

ive had that much hassle with superlight cassettes inc xtr, sram990/980's and xt's , mostly broken teeth and warped cogs. been running slx cassettes for a while now and no issues at all. i dont mind spending money on certain parts but consumables like cassettes, chains and chainrings seem to last much better if you go for a slightly heavier and cheaper option.