Swains Lane Challenge (North London)
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willy b wrote:rubertoe wrote:Still the 10x10 is 2370ft - which is a third of the way up alpe du'huez!
8) 30 laps anybody?
I'll do it. When I move my other bike down here that has the dinner plate climbing sprocket (25T). I think it'd be needed for 30 laps!Ben
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30 laps would be 42 miles, assuming you come straight back down! Whilst it would be easily doable, I think boredom would set in, did after 10 laps!0 -
havent decided yet, meant to be doing some hill reps tonight. could do muswell hill or i could do swains. however i also raced last night so my legs are feeling very very tired.BMC TM01 - FCN 0
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willy b wrote:Ben6899 wrote:
30 laps would be 42 miles, assuming you come straight back down! Whilst it would be easily doable, I think boredom would set in, did after 10 laps!
Well Swains is usually a hill which I attack. I don't have the minerals to attack it 30 times in a row (assuming direct laps) and I would definitely get bored climbing it at Alpe d'Huez pace; only so many times I can stare at that brick wall and marvel at the architecture of Highgate cemetry.
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I took the wimps way out today and did the west hill rather than swains, i forget how much it pitches at the top - but was still pleased to have climbed it especially as there was a guy pushing his bike up it. there was far to much traffic though so will tackle the real hill (swains) tomorrow."If you always do what you've always done, you'll always get what you've always got."
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rubertoe wrote:I took the wimps way out today and did the west hill rather than swains, i forget how much it pitches at the top - but was still pleased to have climbed it especially as there was a guy pushing his bike up it. there was far to much traffic though so will tackle the real hill (swains) tomorrow.
Highgate West is a good old climb, and like you say with the kick at the end I think it's as hard as Swains.0 -
Did Swains Lane again today. Made two mistakes though: cold legs, crappy breakfast.
I don't know which Strava segment we go by on this thread, but I posted times as follows:
Swains Lane (Bus Stop) http://app.strava.com/segments/760505: 2:42
Swains Lane http://app.strava.com/segments/620830: 2:19
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Highgate Cemetry killer http://app.strava.com/segments/1228683: 3:12Ben
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Name................Time.........Mnth willy b.............2:00..........May12 mrc1................2:03 .........Mar 1:48 Chester Road start - notional 15 secs added willy b.............2:09.........Oct willy b.............2:10.........Sep willy b.............2:14..r......Sep jds_1981............2:20.........Sep with pannier brun................2:22..s......Sep road bike willy b.............2:31.........Sep 53:18 old SS in commuter guise brun................2:32..s......Sep 71" fixed (after four pints) Ben6899...........2:42..........May12 spasypaddy..........3:22.........Sep t4tomo..............3.23.........Sep Brompton
Well, I've got the KOM on Swains Lane (Bus Stop) which is what we are using here 8)
http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Also, added and updated the table.0 -
Just wondering - which way do you come down?
I've started to do laps, but haven't found a great solution for the decent. Highgate West Hill and Hillway have too many speed bumps and they work my braking hands too much. Plus... I really don't want to have to replace the brake pads any more often. Swains Lane is one-way and quite narrow, so not ideal either.0 -
I just went up and then down Swains Lane. Was late Sat evening so no real traffic to speak of.0
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willy b wrote:Well, I've got the KOM on Swains Lane (Bus Stop) which is what we are using here 8)
http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Also, added and updated the table.
Not any more you don't WB, you've been slaughtered! (wish I could say it was me, but my puny legs wouldn't get close!)Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph
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OptimisticBiker wrote:willy b wrote:Well, I've got the KOM on Swains Lane (Bus Stop) which is what we are using here 8)
http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Also, added and updated the table.
Not any more you don't WB, you've been slaughtered! (wish I could say it was me, but my puny legs wouldn't get close!)
Yeah I know
was gutted, only had KOM for about 2 days :roll: It's a great time too, really going to take some effort to beat that! 0 -
721W... thats close to 1HP... thats in Chris Hoy territory...willy b wrote:OptimisticBiker wrote:willy b wrote:Well, I've got the KOM on Swains Lane (Bus Stop) which is what we are using here 8)
http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Also, added and updated the table.
Not any more you don't WB, you've been slaughtered! (wish I could say it was me, but my puny legs wouldn't get close!)
Yeah I know was gutted, only had KOM for about 2 days :roll: It's a great time too, really going to take some effort to beat that!Invacare Spectra Plus electric wheelchair, max speed 4mph0 -
I think it's a mistake.
one of the swains lane http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Him doing another hill (with heart rate) http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
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Perhaps.. on a side by side comparison on average I have a higher 5 and 10min power output and we've ridden similar distances this year. Its possible he has very high output for sub 2min, but I'm not convinced, and I know I couldn't achieve that.jds_1981 wrote:I think it's a mistake.
one of the swains lane http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Him doing another hill (with heart rate) http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
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That time up Swains is either a mistake or done on a moped. There is no way the geezer is faster than the top guys like Germain Burton, who started further up (albeit standing start) http://www.urbanhillclimb.com/2011/07/r ... limb-2011/-- Dirk Hofman Motorhomes --0
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OptimisticBiker wrote:721W... thats close to 1HP... thats in Chris Hoy territory...OptimisticBiker wrote:Perhaps.. on a side by side comparison on average I have a higher 5 and 10min power output and we've ridden similar distances this year. Its possible he has very high output for sub 2min, but I'm not convinced, and I know I couldn't achieve that.jds_1981 wrote:I think it's a mistake.
one of the swains lane http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Him doing another hill (with heart rate) http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
Perhaps flag?phil s wrote:That time up Swains is either a mistake or done on a moped. There is no way the geezer is faster than the top guys like Germain Burton, who started further up (albeit standing start) http://www.urbanhillclimb.com/2011/07/r ... limb-2011/
That all seems a bit "He's faster than me, so he must be cheating!" to me.FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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EKE_38BPM wrote:OptimisticBiker wrote:721W... thats close to 1HP... thats in Chris Hoy territory...OptimisticBiker wrote:Perhaps.. on a side by side comparison on average I have a higher 5 and 10min power output and we've ridden similar distances this year. Its possible he has very high output for sub 2min, but I'm not convinced, and I know I couldn't achieve that.jds_1981 wrote:I think it's a mistake.
one of the swains lane http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Him doing another hill (with heart rate) http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
Perhaps flag?phil s wrote:That time up Swains is either a mistake or done on a moped. There is no way the geezer is faster than the top guys like Germain Burton, who started further up (albeit standing start) http://www.urbanhillclimb.com/2011/07/r ... limb-2011/
That all seems a bit "He's faster than me, so he must be cheating!" to me.
quite it looks fine in terms of trace, ie following the road, and speed even. strava power readings are fantasy stuff any way.0 -
I don't care if the dude is faster than me or not. I have only just signed up for Strava, have barely ridden this year or last, and am 4-5kgs over what my race weight used to be. However, I am suspicious of the time compared to a future pro like Germain and a current pro like Dave Clarke. It doesn't quite stack up right, which is why I believe there's some kind of glitsch in the system.-- Dirk Hofman Motorhomes --0
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Were you recovering from a cold and were your tyres a bit flat too?phil s wrote:I have only just signed up for Strava, have barely ridden this year or last, and am 4-5kgs over what my race weight used to be.FCN 3: Raleigh Record Ace fixie-to be resurrected sometime in the future
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EKE_38BPM wrote:
Were you recovering from a cold and were your tyres a bit flat too?phil s wrote:I have only just signed up for Strava, have barely ridden this year or last, and am 4-5kgs over what my race weight used to be.
Not sure what you're on about. I haven't logged any rides on Strava. I am just vaguely interested in this as it's my old stomping ground for hill reps and I know what times top racers like Germain and Clarkey can do on the hill.-- Dirk Hofman Motorhomes --0 -
EKE_38BPM wrote:OptimisticBiker wrote:721W... thats close to 1HP... thats in Chris Hoy territory...OptimisticBiker wrote:Perhaps.. on a side by side comparison on average I have a higher 5 and 10min power output and we've ridden similar distances this year. Its possible he has very high output for sub 2min, but I'm not convinced, and I know I couldn't achieve that.jds_1981 wrote:I think it's a mistake.
one of the swains lane http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Him doing another hill (with heart rate) http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
Perhaps flag?phil s wrote:That time up Swains is either a mistake or done on a moped. There is no way the geezer is faster than the top guys like Germain Burton, who started further up (albeit standing start) http://www.urbanhillclimb.com/2011/07/r ... limb-2011/
That all seems a bit "He's faster than me, so he must be cheating!" to me.
Not really (& a lot of people are much faster than me). I think it's a mistaken recording. I compare to past performances.
On an Ally Pally hill he's 70th. Note heart rate - http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
70 T I Mar 26, 2012 11.6km/h 156bpm 195W - 3:08
1 n m Apr 26, 2012 26.1km/h - 475W - 1:24
On Swains Lane He's first
1 T I May 28, 2012 29.3km/h - 721W - 1:39
I don't see him improving that much in a month.FCN 9 || FCN 50 -
18mph ave up there is very impressive. I almost hope it's true because full credit to the man! I'm happy I got KOM for 2 days 0
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jds_1981 wrote:EKE_38BPM wrote:OptimisticBiker wrote:721W... thats close to 1HP... thats in Chris Hoy territory...OptimisticBiker wrote:Perhaps.. on a side by side comparison on average I have a higher 5 and 10min power output and we've ridden similar distances this year. Its possible he has very high output for sub 2min, but I'm not convinced, and I know I couldn't achieve that.jds_1981 wrote:I think it's a mistake.
one of the swains lane http://app.strava.com/segments/760505
Him doing another hill (with heart rate) http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
Perhaps flag?phil s wrote:That time up Swains is either a mistake or done on a moped. There is no way the geezer is faster than the top guys like Germain Burton, who started further up (albeit standing start) http://www.urbanhillclimb.com/2011/07/r ... limb-2011/
That all seems a bit "He's faster than me, so he must be cheating!" to me.
Not really (& a lot of people are much faster than me). I think it's a mistaken recording. I compare to past performances.
On an Ally Pally hill he's 70th. Note heart rate - http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
70 T I Mar 26, 2012 11.6km/h 156bpm 195W - 3:08
1 n m Apr 26, 2012 26.1km/h - 475W - 1:24
On Swains Lane He's first
1 T I May 28, 2012 29.3km/h - 721W - 1:39
I don't see him improving that much in a month.
he's using the iphone the watts etc will be made up tosh.
The trace over land looks fine to my glance, as does the speed line.
what about that recording looks iffy?0 -
roger merriman wrote:jds_1981 wrote:Not really (& a lot of people are much faster than me). I think it's a mistaken recording. I compare to past performances.
On an Ally Pally hill he's 70th. Note heart rate - http://app.strava.com/rides/5758884#109727298
70 T I Mar 26, 2012 11.6km/h 156bpm 195W - 3:08
1 n m Apr 26, 2012 26.1km/h - 475W - 1:24
On Swains Lane He's first
1 T I May 28, 2012 29.3km/h - 721W - 1:39
I don't see him improving that much in a month.
he's using the iphone the watts etc will be made up tosh.
The trace over land looks fine to my glance, as does the speed line.
what about that recording looks iffy?
Nothing on the recording makes it look iffy. Compared to past performance it does look a bit iffy. An example would be the comparable ally pally hill which I link to. He's slow on that (half the speed of the quickest) and has a average hr of 156 so working reasonably hard.FCN 9 || FCN 50 -
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roger merriman wrote:
what about that recording looks iffy?
I haven't looked at the recording. It's just the speed and the time up the hill compared to top racers. It doesn't stack up. Look again at the Urban Hill Climb times.-- Dirk Hofman Motorhomes --0 -
phil s wrote:roger merriman wrote:
what about that recording looks iffy?
I haven't looked at the recording. It's just the speed and the time up the hill compared to top racers. It doesn't stack up. Look again at the Urban Hill Climb times.
yes and?0 -
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