utterly utterly utterly p****d off with my bike

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  • pickled
    pickled Posts: 439
    A creak I had once turned out to be a split carbon seatpost.
    I'd overtightened it. I now have a torque wrench
  • dodgy
    dodgy Posts: 2,890
    Check the skeweres are tight on the rear wheel (it should be a bit of a struggle to close the lever), I've lost count of the amount of times I've suggested that to riding partners and it's cured their creaking frame.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    Christ if this is how you fall apart when your bike makes a bit of noise how on Earth do you cope with the stresses of everyday life?

    Get things in perspective - your bike makes a noise so something needs greasing/tightening/replacing. Any semi-competent mechanic will be able to sort it out after a quick ride on the bike. Drama over.
    More problems but still living....
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    amaferanga wrote:
    Christ if this is how you fall apart when your bike makes a bit of noise how on Earth do you cope with the stresses of everyday life?

    Get things in perspective - your bike makes a noise so something needs greasing/tightening/replacing. Any semi-competent mechanic will be able to sort it out after a quick ride on the bike. Drama over.

    You'd be right... IF IT WERE A ONE OFF!! But as I have said, it's something EVERY time, and it's becoming a real drag. I cant emphasize enough how loud the cracking was last night - it was really quite worrysome, especially when I cant find the cause.
  • oaky
    oaky Posts: 141
    For what it's worth.

    Loud cracking on my mountain bike was solved by cleaning, greasing and tightening bottom bracket.

    Loud cracking on my road bike was solved by removing pedals, greasing axles and doing back up really tight.

    Extremely annoying tapping on my road bike was - after a many weeks of messing around - solved by simply tightening up the nut thing on the valve on the front wheel.

    My point is, it could be the simplest thing that's been overlooked.
  • danowat
    danowat Posts: 2,877
    I never clean my commuter (15 month old, 4000+ mile) Allez, it never has, and never does, make more noise than a little click or tap here and there.

    If it's as bad as you say, take it back to the shop
  • keef66
    keef66 Posts: 13,123
    My bike came scrupulously well assembled by Epic. No noises at all. Over the years I have progressively taken everything to bits, cleaned, greased and reassembled, and still it's all silent.

    I tell a lie. There's a creak / rattle from the bottle cage on the downtube when the 750ml bottle is full. Disappears after a few slurps. Must remove / grease / remount the thing. Slightly nervous; it's a racelight Tk and the downtube although massive is made of scarily thin alloy. Maybe I'll relocate it to the seat-tube and find another home for the Road Morph pump.

    And there's an annoying click from one side of my M540 SPDs which I can't solve. I just unclip and flip the pedal over. The other side is silent. (any ideas people??)
  • alistaird
    alistaird Posts: 290
    Have you tried greasing the spokes where they enter the hubs? I need to do this every month or else it creaks and cracks...
    Alistair


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  • the_fuggler
    the_fuggler Posts: 1,228
    Definitely a good plan taking it back to the shop for a thorough check over. I had a similar issue with a fork on a Trek MTB (sorry :twisted:). I should have taken it back to be completely overhauled, because it was making a really annoying sound, which pretty much put me off the thing in the end. It was that combination of having spent a lot of money on it and expecting it to be perfect. That sound niggled away at me until I eventually sold the damn thing.

    Fingers crossed you get it sorted...
    FCN 3 / 4
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    It was that combination of having spent a lot of money on it and expecting it to be perfect. That sound niggled away at me....


    Exactly!
  • richardspooner
    richardspooner Posts: 76
    edited June 2011
    I echo that it could be any number of things but my two penneths worth in terms of similar experience of specifics, both stupid and more major...

    Had a persistent creak about two months into the new bike on crank rotation that became louder and louder and turned into a knock I could both hear and feel. Dodgy bottom bracket cup and after being replaced was a-ok.

    Mid ride, a creak developed and became louder and louder. Turns out the tongue on my cleat shoe when sweaty was rubbing against the upper of the shoe and the creak was friction! Leather food solved.

    Out riding with a friend and a click on crank rotation on his bike turned into a loud crack that could be heared and felt. The cleat mechanism on the one pedal was failing and eventually fell to pieces as we arrived home.

    Whilst you are a self confessed new comer to cycling I'm not going to insult the experience you're having, your insistence that there is a problem or your frustration. There could well be an issue with the mechanics not being thorough enough. Seen it, been there, got the t-shirt. And unfortunately if they still don't solve it, it may only be resolved by taking the bike elsewhere and paying them to diagnose the problem, then going back to the shop on a busy Saturday afternoon that you bought the bike from and talking loud enough for all the customers to hear about the problem and reimbursing you for the costs you’ve incurred due to their lack of attention to detail.

    You don't have to get nasty but sometimes you have to show your teeth a little and threaten to hit them below the belt a bit where it hurts. Their trade. See what they have to say after the next visit but if they can't find a problem and you really feel in you heart their is one taking it elsewhere, for the diagnosis at least, is going to be your best (and only), option.

    Again, been there, done it, but the relief of finally having your bike sorted is worth the hassle and outlay. And my advice… keep schtum about being an over enthusiastic cleaner. If it comes down to a warranty dispute it will be the first thing seized upon as the reason. Sorry to sound pessimistic, or like I’m picking holes in your LBS, it’s simply that personal experience over the years and using a couple of different places, it is only after you’ve been going in for a good while do they really trust what you tell them and won’t try to get out of warranty and maintenance obligations as a result. No matter how honest and straight up they are eventually long term.
  • lef
    lef Posts: 728
    ...just remembered! one reason the BB was creaking was the screw that holds the plastic cable guide to the frame (underside the BB) was too long and making contact with the plastic tube part within the BB. I cut the screw down and problem solved. A bit of an oversight from such a reputable brand unless the hugely experienced 16 yr old Evans mechanic who put it together, used a different one.

    Another creak, the same allez, was a dry BB and following grease it worked fine. I used Dura ace grease which is great stuff, a little expensive but goes a long way. No doubt its rebranded generic stuff but regardless its still good.
  • BillyMansell
    BillyMansell Posts: 817
    This thread should be entitled 'What's My Creak?'

    For me it's my Tune hubs.

    The front creaks because the end facets of the axle are machined smooth and move in the dropouts when climbing out the saddle regardless how tight the skewer. The rear creaks when the threads between the two halves of the axle are dry.

    It's annoying when a creak starts and you can't instantly locate it but there's no need to catatstropise the situation, just locate the problem and a little regular lubing should stop the noise.Of course, if it's structural problem then that's a different matter.
  • Paul E
    Paul E Posts: 2,052
    If the chain is dry that will creak badly if you have been riding int he rain and not cleaned and relubed it it will creak, mine did, I know it was the chain as I had regreased the bb on my secteur very recently and I took it out to check the threads and they were still greased.

    Cleaned the chain, lubed it and next ride was silent.
  • rodgers73
    rodgers73 Posts: 2,626
    My bike was clicking annoyingly with every turn of the pedal. I just swapped them over for a new pair and hey presto - no noise! Try checking yours...
  • tmg
    tmg Posts: 651
    If your not happy with the LBS you bought it from then I'd suggest taking it to another LBS that is a dealer of the same manufacturer. I am assuming by your name on here its a Spesh, you could even phone them directly and ask to speak to one of the guys in warrenty for advice, they get these bikes sent bike regularly so they tend to know them inside out so may be able to give you a bit of direction to find the problem. I've spoken to them before and they are really helpful.

    As mentioned by others it's still under manufacurers warrenty so any dealer will be able to help. I'd give them a call first and explain issues you have been having and that you have given the LBS you purchased it from plenty of opportunity to sort. I'd ask them if they would be willing to check it over to see if they can identify any issues.

    It would also help if you could pinpoint where the noise is coming from, so take the bike somewhere flat and quiet so you can try to identify it, eliminate things by taking things off the bike such as seats / seatposts. Also make sure your using the right type of grease, so if you have a carbon seatpost make sure you've greased it with proper stuff. You need to be patient with it and go through it quite meticulously

    When I bought my recent bike it developed an annoying click, I did the above and found that it was the tyre, a small section of the rubber had come away from the case causing it to click every revolution, after checking everything else on the bloody bike!! But by doing the above I was able to pinpoint the noise to the front of the bike and then checked through everything and found the problem

    Good luck with it
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    Thanks for all the advicve - taking to the LBS shortly.

    Interestngly, the carbon seatpost was never greased (from new) - maybe that's the problem (though the cracking happens even when stood up)
  • thegibdog
    thegibdog Posts: 2,106
    My bike had developed a clicking noise recently, mainly when i was out of the saddle. Checked the chainring bolts yesterday and they were loose, tightened them (snapping one in the process but replacing it) and now the clicking has gone.
  • Paul E
    Paul E Posts: 2,052
    Secteur wrote:
    Thanks for all the advicve - taking to the LBS shortly.

    Interestngly, the carbon seatpost was never greased (from new) - maybe that's the problem (though the cracking happens even when stood up)

    What model did you say you had, if it's an elite or below the standard post is only a carbon wrap around alu, I doubt it's the post making the noise.

    I have had it from my pedals, BB and chain but no where else, pedals were simple, remove, clean up the threads and lithium grease and then tighten back up, BB same making sure no threads were dry and the chain, just needed a clean and lube job.

    I do have what sounds like a rubbing noise but I think thats a side plate on the chain which is being replaced when the bike gets a service before 3 day run around Arran in Scotland early next month.
  • tmg
    tmg Posts: 651
    With these kind of things you need to eliminate potential areas one by one and eventually you'll discover the issue as long as you stay patient

    As mentioned by others
    1. check every single nut and bolt for tightness,
    2. clean the bike and regrease everything as appropriate, using the right lube/grease on the right parts
    3. go for a ride, as said earlier pref somewhere quiet and flat, if it is still making the noise try and pinpoint where from, is it making the noise at a particular point in the revolution of the pedal stroke or is it random

    If it's going back to the LBS then ask them to take it for a ride also to see if they can diagnose it, but if its a 'cracking' noise as you say then it's likely to be the BB so as a minimum I'd be asking them to take out, examine it, replace or refit with high quality grease, if that still doesn't sort it then I'd be going down the route of replacement and be pushing LBS to speak directly with the manufacturer on your behalf.
  • Secteur
    Secteur Posts: 1,971
    Secteur wrote:
    oh yes, my LBS to their credit have been fantastic and have never even talked about money every time i've taken it in to them.

    I suppose I am at their mercy - maybe i'll take it in tomorrow and say i'll collect it after my holiday.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Get that bike down to the shop, get it replaced and get another bike for your money and stop fcuking moaning. Bleating on here will not sort it out. :roll:
  • mrwibble
    mrwibble Posts: 980
    do you have a maintenance regime in place? cleaning, lubing etc.
  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    Secteur wrote:
    I might have been guilty of over-judicious use of muc-off... when I first got it, I wanted to keep it immaculate, and I used a lot of it. I later learned on here it's not such a good idea.

    So, I admit it might be part my fault, but even still, after 4 months it should be well sealed enough to not be completely degreased after half-a-dozen applications of muc off...

    thin detergents will find their way into the bearings easier than water and muck because they are so thin. the grease acts as a slight barrier under the seal because of its thickness, also water is repelled by it. the seals arent that tight because people would be complaining about the drag, how freely should my cranks spin etc. It is possible one of your bearings has degreased and causing noise. even if they dont seem worn they can occasionally get flat spotted of even crack in half because they are so hard.
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    dmclite wrote:
    Get that bike down to the shop, get it replaced and get another bike for your money and stop fcuking moaning. Bleating on here will not sort it out. :roll:

    :lol: +1
  • mrwibble
    mrwibble Posts: 980
    edited July 2011
    this guy posts nothing but negative stuff, he must be the unluckiest cyclist on earth
  • i had a creak and it was a bearing in both pedals ?
  • P_Tucker
    P_Tucker Posts: 1,878
    mrwibble wrote:
    this guy posts nothing but negative stuff, he must be the unluckiest cyclist on earth

    I would say his glass is half empty, but his glass probably has a hole in the bottom and creaks every time he drinks from it.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    P_Tucker wrote:
    mrwibble wrote:
    this guy posts nothing but negative stuff, he must be the unluckiest cyclist on earth

    I would say his glass is half empty, but his glass probably has a hole in the bottom and creaks every time he drinks from it.

    :D
  • Evil Laugh
    Evil Laugh Posts: 1,412
    I've had a really loud cracking sound, not particularly regular. Turned out my chainring bolts were coming loose. Regreased with copper grease and tightened back up, sorted it out.

    Had a grinding crunching noise from bb which was sorted by removing, cleaning threads of grit and reinstalling.

    FYI

    The chainring bolts gave a very loud and disconcerting crack, maybe what you're hearing?