David Millar did a lap of Richmond Park on Sunday...

bigmat

Zav wrote:

I like David Millar normally, but wasn't he a tad arrogant in the interview afterwards? "My cycling club" - "not many pros around" - well maybe, but some of the quick Dynamo guys are doing 16 min laps and better on road bikes?

Agree with that, there are plenty of amateurs who could probably scrape under 16 minutes on a road bike, so to suggest that his time is untouchable seemed a bit cocky. I won't be threatening it any time soon, but I'm sure there are other "non-pros" who could.

sketchley

At that speed on my quickest lap (anti-clockwise starting at Roehampton Gate) I'd be somewhere near the top of Dark Hill as he was finishing.

sketchley

BigMat wrote:

Zav wrote:

I like David Millar normally, but wasn't he a tad arrogant in the interview afterwards? "My cycling club" - "not many pros around" - well maybe, but some of the quick Dynamo guys are doing 16 min laps and better on road bikes?

Agree with that, there are plenty of amateurs who could probably scrape under 16 minutes on a road bike, so to suggest that his time is untouchable seemed a bit cocky. I won't be threatening it any time soon, but I'm sure there are other "non-pros" who could.

Not sure I agree. He had just been complemented on a quick time, which he then played down, implication being that it wasn't that quick and he's not super human. Isn't that modesty not arrogance?

jonginge

Sketchley wrote:

BigMat wrote:

Zav wrote:

I like David Millar normally, but wasn't he a tad arrogant in the interview afterwards? "My cycling club" - "not many pros around" - well maybe, but some of the quick Dynamo guys are doing 16 min laps and better on road bikes?

Agree with that, there are plenty of amateurs who could probably scrape under 16 minutes on a road bike, so to suggest that his time is untouchable seemed a bit cocky. I won't be threatening it any time soon, but I'm sure there are other "non-pros" who could.

Not sure I agree. He had just been complemented on a quick time, which he then played down, implication being that it wasn't that quick and he's not super human. Isn't that modesty not arrogance?

Not sure it's correct but I'd heard that Hutchinson's fastest lap was a short 14. Not many amateurs are going to beat that...

bigmat

It maybe just came across badly - bearing in mind I watched that interview at work with the sound pretty low! I guess its easy to lose sight of how much of a difference 1 minute is over that kind of distance, never mind 2 or 3.

richVSrich

what is the exact distance round richmond? 7 miles?

13:35 ..that is an average speed of 31.1 mph (49.8 kph)

i wonder what his max speed was????

Gazzaputt

BigMat wrote:

Zav wrote:

I like David Millar normally, but wasn't he a tad arrogant in the interview afterwards? "My cycling club" - "not many pros around" - well maybe, but some of the quick Dynamo guys are doing 16 min laps and better on road bikes?

Agree with that, there are plenty of amateurs who could probably scrape under 16 minutes on a road bike, so to suggest that his time is untouchable seemed a bit cocky. I won't be threatening it any time soon, but I'm sure there are other "non-pros" who could.

Mere mortals won't get near his time. Also it wasn't a 'full on' TT for him. I bet he could knock a minute of that time if he went about as say his Giro TT win.

Maybe Wiggo or Cancellara fancies ago then maybe it'll get broken.

dcurzon

linky no worky

Zachariah

Link not working for me.

sketchley

Fastest prologue in TDF was 34.27 mph over 4.47 miles. All thing being equal (which they are not) this does suggest a lap of 12m12s is possible if my maths are correct.

grantstats

I suggest a TopGear style celebrity cyclist Fastest Lap time board- as Millar did it from a standing start. This could put it into perspective about whether they are going full speed or not. The question is who could be our Stig? Graham Obree? Any other suggestions?

richVSrich

Grantstats wrote:

I suggest a TopGear style celebrity cyclist Fastest Lap time board- as Millar did it from a standing start. This could put it into perspective about whether they are going full speed or not. The question is who could be our Stig? Graham Obree? Any other suggestions?

haha, that is actually a really good idea!
lap time
direction
wind
FCN

keyser__soze

Unfortunately they've taken the video down - unless someone else can find it again? Maybe someone pointed out that Millar was actually breaking the law?

jonginge

Grantstats wrote:

I suggest a TopGear style celebrity cyclist Fastest Lap time board- as Millar did it from a standing start. This could put it into perspective about whether they are going full speed or not. The question is who could be our Stig? Graham Obree? Any other suggestions?

Robert Millar

kelsen

JonGinge wrote:

Grantstats wrote:

I suggest a TopGear style celebrity cyclist Fastest Lap time board- as Millar did it from a standing start. This could put it into perspective about whether they are going full speed or not. The question is who could be our Stig? Graham Obree? Any other suggestions?

Robert Millar

If you can find him

snailracer

kelsen wrote:

JonGinge wrote:

Grantstats wrote:

I suggest a TopGear style celebrity cyclist Fastest Lap time board- as Millar did it from a standing start. This could put it into perspective about whether they are going full speed or not. The question is who could be our Stig? Graham Obree? Any other suggestions?

Robert Millar

If you can find him

If you can find her.

kelsen

snailracer wrote:

kelsen wrote:

JonGinge wrote:

Grantstats wrote:

I suggest a TopGear style celebrity cyclist Fastest Lap time board- as Millar did it from a standing start. This could put it into perspective about whether they are going full speed or not. The question is who could be our Stig? Graham Obree? Any other suggestions?

Robert Millar

If you can find him

If you can find her.

Medders

well he has been known to post on these boards...

suzyb

shouldbeinbed wrote:

Did you ask him how he found being on this series of The Apprentice and if he'd enjoyed lugging rubbish around with Jim on yesterdays show.

I'm not the only one who thinks they could be twins then

rebs

BBC have taken the story down

Anyone able to find any video of this?

greg66_tri_v2.0

JonGinge wrote:

holy moly, mroli. I go ~30secs quicker a lap once warmed up...

Yes - I was thinking that, and about the splits you & CJ put up not so long ago. Millar would surely go sub 40 for the 3LC. I doubt many amateurs who could get within a respectable margin of his one lap time could then wind it up for another two...

cjcp

Greg66 wrote:

JonGinge wrote:

holy moly, mroli. I go ~30secs quicker a lap once warmed up...

Yes - I was thinking that, and about the splits you & CJ put up not so long ago. Millar would surely go sub 40 for the 3LC. I doubt many amateurs who could get within a respectable margin of his one lap time could then wind it up for another two...

Also, wouldn't he have had a headwind up Sawyer's? I can't remember a favourable wind direction for a while. If so, that's not even optimum conditions. Holy sheeeeet.

Wrath Rob

DId 2 laps tonight which really put this intp perspective. The fastest of the 2 (flying start) was 18:22. My fastest ever is 18:01. Millar was 5 minutes faster than that. OK, so he was on an aero TT bike, but that's a massive engine he's got turning those pedals.

greg66_tri_v2.0

cjcp wrote:

Greg66 wrote:

JonGinge wrote:

holy moly, mroli. I go ~30secs quicker a lap once warmed up...

Yes - I was thinking that, and about the splits you & CJ put up not so long ago. Millar would surely go sub 40 for the 3LC. I doubt many amateurs who could get within a respectable margin of his one lap time could then wind it up for another two...

Also, wouldn't he have had a headwind up Sawyer's? I can't remember a favourable wind direction for a while. If so, that's not even optimum conditions. Holy sheeeeet.

True, but when you saw the head-on shots of Millar and Graham Bell, it was like looking at Laurel and Hardy. There's nothing to Millar's upper body. He looked thinner than his frame set.

bigmat

Sub 40?! :shock:

I guess it might be possible for him in optimum conditions, but his 1 lap time suggests that he'd need to pick up his pace a bit!

cjcp

BigMat wrote:

Sub 40?! :shock:

I guess it might be possible for him in optimum conditions, but his 1 lap time suggests that he'd need to pick up his pace a bit!

I have visions of someone shouting from the verge, "Oi! Millar! Mush, mush! Get a move on, will you?! Haven't got all day, you know."

Aside from being warmed up a bit more, he could also knock some time off as he got to know the Park.

sketchley

Last night my legs were hurting and was not having a good lap, glanced down at Garmin at Kingston Gate found myself thinking f**K Millar had already finished at this point. Almost gave up there and then but carried on round for a poor 23 min lap.

mtb-idle

apparently the Parks Police complained about the vid and that's why it's been taken down.

I didn't get a chance to see it so if there's another copy out there somewhere I would love a link to it.

bigmat

cjcp wrote:

BigMat wrote:

Sub 40?! :shock:

I guess it might be possible for him in optimum conditions, but his 1 lap time suggests that he'd need to pick up his pace a bit!

I have visions of someone shouting from the verge, "Oi! Millar! Mush, mush! Get a move on, will you?! Haven't got all day, you know."

Aside from being warmed up a bit more, he could also knock some time off as he got to know the Park.

Also his lap was from a standing start, so 3 flying laps might see him knock a chunk off. Still not sure about 40 minutes though!

keyser__soze

Rather sad that the Parks Police would complain but hey. Given they're not going to shift the Olympics TT to RP, next best chance of seeing pro racing there is to persuade the Tour of Britain to hold a time trial in the park, either one lap as a prologue or as a longer 3-lap as the main time trial. Would pay good money to see that.