Giro Stage 16 **Spoiler**

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  • OffTheBackAdam
    OffTheBackAdam Posts: 1,869
    Well, that was pretty convincing.
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    34 secs faster. BAMMMMMMMMMMMMM

    El Pistelero..who cant get happy :lol:

    Me.
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  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    dont know about cruising the slow mo finish maks him look like the Alien. I like to see that.

    Favourite riders ever
    1 Ullrich
    2Contador
    3 Johan Museuww
  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    so what is the GC time situation now?
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    Gazzaputt wrote:
    smithy21 wrote:
    That must be galling for the rest of the peloton. He looks like he is just cruising along.

    Changed that for you.

    Much obliged! :lol:
  • smithy21
    smithy21 Posts: 2,204
    BarryBonds wrote:
    so what is the GC time situation now?

    All over until June 6th I believe!

    At least we might get some breaks staying away in the last week.
  • cornoyemade
    cornoyemade Posts: 180
    the contenders for second place must be crushed. It looks like the only thing that could stop Contador this year is a crash, and that is not likely at this point because Cavy has already quit. Cheers Contador
  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    I love the Giro, eery year i think its great, somehow and this is odd givent he size of it it has a grass roots feel to it, it feels real wheras the Tour seems (for me at least) a little sureal.

    But very good still

    I hope contadors there in July
  • blazing_saddles
    blazing_saddles Posts: 22,711
    Great rides from Nibali, Scarponi, Little Jose and Old Man Garzelli and Young Man Kruiswijk.
    "Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.
  • Cleat Eastwood
    Cleat Eastwood Posts: 7,508
    BarryBonds wrote:
    so what is the GC time situation now?

    1 CONTADOR Alberto 0:00
    2 SCARPONI Michele 4:58
    3 NIBALI Vincenzo 5:45

    4 GADRET John 7:35
    5 RUJANO GUILLEN Jose' 9:18
    6 NIEVE ITURALDE Mikel 9:22
    7 MENCHOV Denis 9:38
    8 KREUZIGER Roman 9:47
    9 RODRIGUEZ Joaquin 10:25
    10 ANTON Igor 10:58
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  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    Thank you,

    Hmmm quite a long way ahead.

    Ah well i only need watch the highlights programs now
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    The only person currently riding that could have matched Bertie today is Chris Horner...
  • Gazzaputt
    Gazzaputt Posts: 3,227
    Quite surprised that Scarponi will end up winning this :wink:
  • BarryBonds
    BarryBonds Posts: 344
    BigMat wrote:
    The only person currently riding that could have matched Bertie today is Chris Horner...

    Probably whilst breathing easily and smiling

    Meanwhile his other vet mate would ride with him
  • Abdoujaparov
    Abdoujaparov Posts: 642
    Love him or loathe him, that was an awesome performance by Contador.

    And pretty embarrassing for everyone else. Or at least the "GC contenders".
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Love him or loathe him, that was an awesome performance by Contador.

    And pretty embarrassing for everyone else. Or at least the "GC contenders".

    To me, Contador's efforts in the Giro go a long way to show the difference between genuine TdF contenders and Giro contenders.

    Anyone think Basso would have come close had he ridden this one?
  • cogidubnus
    cogidubnus Posts: 860
    I for one hope Bertie is cleared to ride the TdF with him in this form it should be a really good battle with him, Basso, the Schlecks and Wiggins.. ;)
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    I for one hope Bertie is cleared to ride the TdF with him in this form it should be a really good battle with him, Basso, the Schlecks and Wiggins.. ;)

    I am hopeful to see him ride the TDF and hopefully Horner is there so Bertie can tear his fking legs off like he has to everyone else at this years Giro!!
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  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Love him or loathe him, that was an awesome performance by Contador.

    And pretty embarrassing for everyone else. Or at least the "GC contenders".

    To me, Contador's efforts in the Giro go a long way to show the difference between genuine TdF contenders and Giro contenders.

    Anyone think Basso would have come close had he ridden this one?

    Dude you keep saying this.

    Please can you explain to me who would be killing Nibs and Scarponi etc? Schleck maybe but he gets whacked by old guys in Cali. Basso? Contador will take him out. Evans? Good TT, battler, but not the best. Nibali has won a Vuelta (Im guessing though that you think that was easy?)
    Contador is the Greatest
  • dbmnk
    dbmnk Posts: 217
    priceless

    I loved the Pinotti quote about him in pro-cycling

    "You can’t say what he said. I don’t know what he told the investigators – he must have said something if they reduced his ban – but compare Di Luca and Tom Zirbel. Zirbel was banned for two years by USADA having tested positive for DHEA. He didn’t know how it got into his body and he definitely didn’t take it intentionally. Nonetheless, he admitted that what enters an athlete’s body was his responsibility and he wasn’t able to prove that it was contamination, perhaps because he didn’t have the money and the lawyers. Anyway, he couldn’t prove it and he got banned for two years. There was another case - Zirbel heard about it - of an athlete who did manage to prove that he’d taken a contaminated supplement and the company got sued – but the athlete still only got a three-month reduction to his ban. Then along comes Di Luca, who’s already been charged twice - once for consulting a doctor who’s banned from cycling for life and now for this. Di Luca tests positive, admits he did it and then he provides the investigators with information, which he can do because he’s an expert in the field, and they give him a nine-month reduction. Then what? He throws his hands up in the air and says, “I didn’t name any names. I didn’t spit in the soup. I just explained my doping methods.” So as an expert in the field, he’s told the investigators how you go about doping. At this point Zirbel says, “Ah, it’s a shame that I’m not an expert in doping. I should have pretended to be one then I’d be able to start racing again next year. Because I’m an idiot, though, and I let this substance get into my system without knowing how, I’ve got two years and I’m stuck with it.”
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    edited May 2011
    GC for TDF:

    General Classification after Stage 20 (2010)
    1 CONTADOR Alberto (ASTANA)
    2 SCHLECK Andy (SAXO BANK) + 00' 39"
    3 MENCHOV Denis (RABOBANK) + 02' 01"
    4 SANCHEZ Samuel (EUSKALTEL - EUSKADI) + 03' 40"
    5 VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen (OMEGA PHARMA - LOTTO) + 06' 54"
    6 GESINK Robert (RABOBANK) + 09' 31"
    7 HESJEDAL Ryder (GARMIN - TRANSITIONS) + 10' 15"
    8 RODRIGUEZ OLIVER Joaquin (KATUSHA TEAM) + 11' 37"
    9 KREUZIGER Roman (LIQUIGAS-DOIMO) + 11' 54"
    10 HORNER Christopher (RADIOSHACK) + 12' 02"

    2009
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    General classification after stage 21 (2008)
    1 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC - Saxo Bank
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) Silence - Lotto 1.05
    3 Bernhard Kohl (Aut) Gerolsteiner 1.20
    4 Denis Menchov (Rus) Rabobank 2.00
    5 Christian Vande Velde (USA) Team Garmin-Chipotle p/b H30 3.12
    6 Frank Schleck (Lux) Team CSC - Saxo Bank 4.28
    7 Samuel Sanchez Gonzalez (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 6.32
    8 Kim Kirchen (Lux) Team Columbia 7.02
    9 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 7.26
    10 Tadej Valjavec (Slo) AG2R La Mondiale 9.12

    2007
    Final General Classification

    1 Alberto Contador Velasco (Spa) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 91.00.26
    2 Cadel Evans (Aus) Predictor - Lotto 0.23
    3 Levi Leipheimer (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.31
    4 Carlos Sastre Candil (Spa) Team CSC 7.08
    5 Haimar Zubeldia Agirre (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 8.17
    6 Alejandro Valverde Belmonte (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 11.37
    7 Kim Kirchen (Lux) T-Mobile Team 12.18
    8 Yaroslav Popovych (Ukr) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 12.25
    9 Mikel Astarloza Chaurreau (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi 14.14
    10 Oscar Pereiro Sio (Spa) Caisse d'Epargne 14.25
    Contador is the Greatest
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Love him or loathe him, that was an awesome performance by Contador.

    And pretty embarrassing for everyone else. Or at least the "GC contenders".

    To me, Contador's efforts in the Giro go a long way to show the difference between genuine TdF contenders and Giro contenders.

    Anyone think Basso would have come close had he ridden this one?

    Dude you keep saying this.

    Please can you explain to me who would be killing Nibs and Scarponi etc? Schleck maybe but he gets whacked by old guys in Cali. Basso? Contador will take him out. Evans? Good TT, battler, but not the best. Nibali has won a Vuelta (Im guessing though that you think that was easy?)

    Look, Contador would be anyone, but that's the point.

    Basso would beat Nibs and Scarponi, Schleck would if he wanted to, no problem. Evans, nowhere near the top step of the Giro or the TdF. Nibs would be top 10 in the Tour, top 5 if he has a good one.

    The standard Giro GC cotenders are just not anywhere near the TdF level.
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
    Please see last 4 years GC.

    You mention Schleck and Basso. Ok fine, please tell me who is hands down beating Nibs and Scarponi?

    I would say even that Nibs is better suited to the Tour as dont think he is the best on the steepest grades (which Andy, Alberto and Ivan are)

    You are undermining wrongly the calibre of riders.
    Contador is the Greatest
  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    I wouldn't be so quick to write off Cuddles. Remember, he came within a minute of Bertie when he and the chicken danced their merry juiced up dance through the Alps.

    He was never going to win a Giro as hilly as '10 but a good team around him, some quiet preparation and I can see him matching Basso in '11 TdF.

    Bertie's supremacy or otherwise is irrelevant; see you in '13 pistolero. No doubt with Valv.piti as wingman.
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  • Crankbrother
    Crankbrother Posts: 1,695
    Trouble is riders like Evans get paid to finish top 5 in the Tour not fight for the win at the Giro ...

    I think Cuddles would be in the same spot as Scarponi/Nibs and it would be a great fight for the win ... Sadly Bertie won't take his (ahem) medicine ... plus everyone (including Basso) is hoping no AC at the Tour to give them a chance of the win ...

    If AC does take the ban then Andy Schleck won't win the tour ... Too many others with a chance of the win who have been there when it mattered before ... He'll make a silly mistake again ...
  • frenchfighter
    frenchfighter Posts: 30,642
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    Contador is the Greatest
  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    For Tondo
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  • calvjones
    calvjones Posts: 3,850
    Saluting the probably-clean Tondo who struggled for years against rampant doping on the Iberian peninsula?

    Can't help feeling a tad queasy if so.
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  • Doobz
    Doobz Posts: 2,800
    Was Contador the only one who was wearing a black armband today? Didnt even notice the moviestar riders having them on..
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,661
    Doobz wrote:
    Was Contador the only one who was wearing a black armband today? Didnt even notice the moviestar riders having them on..

    Gadret's been wearing one all race.