Come and meet Cally she's bouncy and volumptuous

VWsurfbum
VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
edited December 2011 in Your mountain bikes
Here's my latest frankensteins 29er build.
Ally front triangle Carbon rear, the forks (at the moment) are Marathon SL's with the weirdest ETA function. loads of standover for a 19" frame
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here it is fully built, just waiting for the seatpost.
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The Shock is a Rock Shox Ario 2.1 and from what i can tell so far is it will last this weekend before being swapped over to a proper one.
The forks are going to be replaced in the very near future too, then when i sell the hardtail frame and forks i'll buy some new wheels and brakes.

Weights =
frame 2.3Kg
forks 1.9kg
Total build 13.1kg
so with a bit of tinkering i should be able to get that right down! My Carbon Genius was just over 12 so i'm well happy with this as a starting point!
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  • ollie51
    ollie51 Posts: 517
    A full sus niner! It's certainly got potential.
  • angry_bird
    angry_bird Posts: 3,787
    Nice dog.

    Bike looks pretty tidy too, although I'm not too sure about the red bits if I'm honest.
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    The red bits are the carry over bits from the hardtail
    Ordering some newbits later
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  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    Just ordered these in 120mm flavour, cant wait to have proper smooth shocks after riding with darts for the last year!
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    Manitou Drake's
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  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    Forks are now on
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    New BB
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    Just waiting on the date for the strip and respray! 8)
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  • looking good when we going for a tour :twisted:
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    Well Epping tomorrow then a midweek rude over Langdon and one at thorndon. Tuesday and Thursday just nit sure which way round yet??

    Going to take some better pictures tomorrow as it looks odd in the ones I've taken
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  • let me know ever way and ill see f i can make it 8)
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    Just orderd some red gear cable outers.

    Had its first proper ride out yesterday and once i got used to FS again, its bloody quick and comfy. The Powder coaters have come back to me at £80.00 but a 7 day turn around?? can i be without a bike for that long?
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  • needs to be done then i say yes are you keeping it the same colour ????im going for blue brake cables soon mmmmm BLING BIKING LOL :lol:
  • fattrucker
    fattrucker Posts: 39
    VWsurfbum wrote:
    The Powder coaters have come back to me at £80.00 but a 7 day turn around??


    Hi Vee Dub

    Where are you getting the powdercoating done please ?
    Are they doing a "proper" low temp job ? I have been advised NOT to get an aluminium frame powdercoated due to *some* places using too high of a temperature to bake the frame , resulting in it altering the aluminium hardening process and weakening the frame .

    Hence getting quotes for between double and triple what you've been quoted for yours .

    TIA

    Fattrucker
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    GandG powder coaters, that sounds a bit like Tosh to me, the ovens are hot but nowhere hot enough to alter aluminium carector
    I maybe wrong ?
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  • Uchiga
    Uchiga Posts: 230
    VWsurfbum wrote:
    GandG powder coaters, that sounds a bit like Tosh to me, the ovens are hot but nowhere hot enough to alter aluminium carector
    I maybe wrong ?

    Aluminium low melting temperature (around 660 degrees C) So it depends on how hot these oven are. :roll: Really don't know but i doubt they need to get it that high to bake paint...
  • ollie51
    ollie51 Posts: 517
    Uchiga wrote:
    VWsurfbum wrote:
    GandG powder coaters, that sounds a bit like Tosh to me, the ovens are hot but nowhere hot enough to alter aluminium carector
    I maybe wrong ?

    Aluminium low melting temperature (around 660 degrees C) So it depends on how hot these oven are. :roll: Really don't know but i doubt they need to get it that high to bake paint...

    Altercations in the alloy's intermolecular bonds will occur at a significantly lower temperature than 660C which will make the alloy weaker; since powder coating doesn't really exceed 200C the little weakness that could happen is negligible in this case. I presume the frames out of warranty is it not? So there's no reason not to go ahead and get it done.
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    Out of warranty, I should CoCo :wink:
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  • fattrucker
    fattrucker Posts: 39
    ollie51 wrote:
    Uchiga wrote:
    VWsurfbum wrote:
    GandG powder coaters, that sounds a bit like Tosh to me, the ovens are hot but nowhere hot enough to alter aluminium carector
    I maybe wrong ?

    Aluminium low melting temperature (around 660 degrees C) So it depends on how hot these oven are. :roll: Really don't know but i doubt they need to get it that high to bake paint...

    Altercations in the alloy's intermolecular bonds will occur at a significantly lower temperature than 660C which will make the alloy weaker; since powder coating doesn't really exceed 200C the little weakness that could happen is negligible in this case. I presume the frames out of warranty is it not? So there's no reason not to go ahead and get it done.

    Sorry if I've stirred something up here but I was told to watch out for this by the frame refurbishers / repairers that have a similar name to the well known high street catalogue chain !

    Propaganda ? Hmmmnnnn . . . could be to "persuade" me to do business with them as "they know what they're talking about"

    Will try to look up G and G . Sounds like a good price .

    Unless someone can recomend a good reasonably priced resprayer in the Rotherham / South Yorkshire area ?
  • fattrucker
    fattrucker Posts: 39
    @VeeDub

    Just phoned a local powdercoaters (didn't know we'd got one so close - less than 2 mile away ;-) ) and asked about temps and time in the oven .

    180 degrees C for 10-15 mins ! ! !

    I do NOT think this is going to affect the ali in the frame really now is it ?

    I think my back was gettin well and truely peed up by A!"£$ to spend £200 plus

    The quote I've just had for powdercoating in a single colour is £30 + VAT = £36

    Stripping the old paint off £10-12 (subcontracted out)

    Less than a week turnaround .

    They might just be getting my business :wink::lol:

    Anyway BOT

    Think it's gonna look great when it's finished VeeDub . I'm currently trying to get the funds together for a 29er but can't decide between FS , rigid or HT . . .

    What do you prefer
  • nicklouse
    nicklouse Posts: 50,675
    fattrucker
    I was about to come in with the average cure temp and time is 200C for 10 mins.
    "Do not follow where the path may lead, Go instead where there is no path, and Leave a Trail."
    Parktools :?:SheldonBrown
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    fattrucker
    Been riding 29er now for over a year, definately the way forward (for me anyway) I thought my HT was great but I prefer the ride of a FS but there's a definate difference in acceleration between the two, and people who say 29ers are slow in acceleration and in the corners haven't ridden mine:wink:
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  • Fenred
    Fenred Posts: 428
    nicklouse wrote:
    fattrucker
    I was about to come in with the average cure temp and time is 200C for 10 mins.

    Fattruckers oven must be fan assisted... :)
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    can you tell what i've been doing?
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    and finally, i wanted to ride tonight so put it back together.
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    One bit i cant strip is the painted carbon seat stay, not with confidence anyway?
    any ideas?
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  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    New stem and cable fitted, now need to crop the steerer tube a tad.

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    the new decals have arrived also but there for once its painted, so after sundays ride, strip down and off to the paint shop.
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  • you going to be at thorndon sunday i want a closer look at her :lol:
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    Nope doing Epping ride, but a early one to get back to watch F1 lol
    What about a midweek night ride?
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  • yea could be up for that let us know what evening your thinking of and i ll see i im free i know wensday is ok ????
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    I'll let you know after Sunday
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  • :lol: no worrys fella talk soon :twisted:
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    So i was shopping with wifey and nippers this morning, came across some "paint" and thought F'it i'll try painting it?
    So here's the results, for the moment anyway :wink:
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    When it gets dark i'll take another one :wink:
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  • FocusZing
    FocusZing Posts: 4,373
    VWsurfbum wrote:
    So i was shopping with wifey and nippers this morning, came across some "paint" and thought F'it i'll try painting it?

    When it gets dark i'll take another one :wink:

    You picked that luminous paint up from the 99p shop didn't you;-)

    That is going to look pretty damn good.
  • VWsurfbum
    VWsurfbum Posts: 7,881
    Not the 99p shop, I wish I knew they did it!!
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