Pro Tour Pundit 2011

afx237vi
afx237vi Posts: 12,630
edited February 2012 in Pro race
Hello and welcome to Pro Tour Pundit 2011 - the 6th annual edition of everyone's favourite pro cycling prediction game.

How To Play

Playing along with PTP is extremely simple - you don't have to sign up or join anything other than the Bikeradar forums. If you're already a member here, that means you're already eligible to play.

The rules of the game are simple too. A few days before each of the chosen races, a PTP thread will be started in the Pro Race forum. That thread will contain a selection of useful links - start lists, race maps, past winners and so on. All you have to do is consider who you think is likely to win and post their name in that thread. It's that simple. If the race in question is a stage-race, you also get to predict the daily stage winners.

As you play, your scores will be added up and the overall season rankings will be updated in this thread. Take a look below for the scoring system.

2010 Calendar

Same as last year.
Feb    26 - Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
       
Mar     5 - Strade Bianchi
     6-13 - Paris-Nice
     9-15 - Tirreno-Adriatico
       19 - Milan-San Remo
       26 - E3 Prijs Vlaanderen
       27 - Gent-Wevelgem
       
Apr     3 - Tour of Flanders
      4-9 - Tour of the Basque Country
        6 - Scheldeprijs
       10 - Paris-Roubaix
       17 - Amstel Gold Race
       20 - La Fleche Wallone
       24 - Liege-Bastogne-Liege
     26-1 - Tour de Romandie

May  7-29 - Giro d'Italia

Jun  5-12 - Dauphiné Libéré
    11-19 - Tour de Suisse

Jul  2-24 - Tour de France
       30 - Clasica San Sebastian
     31-6 - Tour of Poland
     
Aug  8-14 - Eneco Tour
       21 - Vattenfall Cyclassics
    20-11 - Vuelta a Espana
   
Sep     9 - GP de Québec
       11 - GP de Montréal
       20 - Worlds ITT (Women)
       21 - Worlds ITT (Men)
       24 - Worlds RR (Women)
       25 - Worlds RR (Men)
       
Oct     9 - Paris-Tours
       15 - Giro di Lombardia

Points System

Same as last year.
TdF = Tour de France / G/V = Giro/Vuelta / Reg = Regular season

GC and one-day winners:

     TdF | G/V | Reg
---------------------
 1 | 100 | 85  | 50 |
 2 | 75  | 65  | 40 |
 3 | 60  | 50  | 35 |
 4 | 55  | 45  | 30 |
 5 | 50  | 40  | 25 |
 6 | 45  | 35  | 20 |
 7 | 40  | 30  | 15 |
 8 | 35  | 26  | 10 |
 9 | 30  | 22  | 5  |
10 | 25  | 19  | 2  |
11 | 20  | 16  |    |
12 | 15  | 13  |    |
13 | 12  | 11  |    |
14 | 10  | 9   |    |
15 | 8   | 7   |    |
16 | 6   | 5   |    |
17 | 5   | 4   |    |
18 | 4   | 3   |    |
19 | 3   | 2   |    |
20 | 2   | 1   |    |

Stage winners:

     TdF | G/V | Reg
---------------------
  1 | 12 | 10  | 6  |
  2 | 10 |  8  | 5  |
  3 | 8  |  6  | 4  |
  4 | 7  |  5  | 3  |
  5 | 6  |  4  | 2  |
  6 | 5  |  3  | 1  |
  7 | 4  |  2  |    |
  8 | 3  |  1  |    |
  9 | 2  |     |    |
 10 | 1  |     |    |

Doping

Points are finalised once the race organisations publishes their results. No adjustments will be made if it later emerges that a rider has failed a drugs test.

Prediction Cut-off

For most races, the generally accepted rule is that selections should be in before noon on the day of the race (exceptions made for split-stages, evening prologues etc).

Past Winners
2006                           2007
 -------------------------------------------------------
  1. mangaman          817       1. andyp            723
  2. Dave_1            769       2. andrewgturnbull  687
  3. yace              737       3. yace             679
  4. iainf72           692       4. mangaman         631
  5. Timoid            668       5. laurence         607
  6. andrewgturnbull   665       6. afx237vi         599
  7. MarkM             621       7. Noodley          592
  8. RichN95           568       8. GroupOfOne       589
  9. afx237vi          561       9. Stephen Sorba    580
 10. GroupOfOne        549      10. Greggyr          573
 
     2008                           2009
 -------------------------------------------------------
  1. Richrd2205        977       1. FJS             1403
  2. thomasmc          922       2. andyp           1401
  3. paul27            884       3. Kléber          1388
  4. redddragon        873       4. thomasmc        1364
  5. Bronzie           848       5. Bronzie         1307
  6. andyp             837       6. graham56        1305
  7. Greggyr           823       7. mididoctors     1297
  8. GroupOfOne        816       8. scwxx77         1287
  9. scwxx77           814       9. alanmcn1        1195
 10. LangerDan         800      10. GroupOfOne      1186

     2008
-------------------------------------------------------
 1. Kléber            1450
 2. andyp             1390
 3. Snorebens         1380
 4. GroupOfOne        1369
 5. bring_back_jan    1357
 6. FJS               1352
 7. mididoctors       1311
 8. The Prodigy       1300
 9. pb21              1286
10. TakeTheHighRoad   1274

That's all, have a lucky year and enjoy the racing!
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Comments

  • ratsbeyfus
    ratsbeyfus Posts: 2,841
    You gorgeous pixellated monkey you.


    I had one of them red bikes but I don't any more. Sad face.

    @ratsbey
  • 5 different winners in 5 years, can somebody do it for a second year?

    It tells you all you need to know about this competition that I'm immensely proud to see my name at number 10 for last year
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Overall scores after Het Nieuwsblad

    No clear leader after the first race, with an eight-way tie for pole position.
    Name         Total
    ------------------------
    1     Greggyr         40
    2     inkyfingers     40
    3     mr_poll         40
    4     mroli           40
    5     pb21            40
    6     Pross           40
    7     Richrd2205      40
    8     smithy21        40
    9     liamg            2
    10    peterst6906      2
    11    SecretSqirrel    2
    12    slimreaper       2
    13    Woosha           2
    

    Overall scores for the season will be updated in full here:

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html

    ...although obviously there's not much to see yet. Next up - Eroica on Saturday and Paris-Nice from Sunday.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Overall scores after Eroica

    Still tight at the top, although an eight-way tie has now turned into a two-way tie with inkyfingers sharing the lead with 2008 champion Richrd2205.
    Name              Score
    -----------------------------
    1     inkyfingers          80
    2     Richrd2205           80
    3     smithy21             75
    4     Greggyr              65
    5     slimreaper           52
    6     alanjay              50
    7     andyjr               50
    8     apriliarider         50
    9     curium               50
    10    DeadCalm             50
    11    John Matrix          50
    12    josame               50
    13    ShockedSoShocked     50
    14    Snorebens            50
    15    stagehopper          50
    16    victorponf           50
    17    liamg                42
    18    calvjones            40
    19    Doobz                40
    20    GroupOfOne           40
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    I am going to print this page out and keep it!

    Alas there's now only one way that i'm going to go now!
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • Richrd2205
    Richrd2205 Posts: 1,267
    I can't imagine that'll I'll stay up there very long either, inkyfingers... Not sure what I was taking in 2008, but have struggled to stay Top 20 since. Nice to be reminded of it every now and again, though!
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Richrd2205 wrote:
    I can't imagine that'll I'll stay up there very long either, inkyfingers... Not sure what I was taking in 2008, but have struggled to stay Top 20 since. Nice to be reminded of it every now and again, though!

    Well you've managed to extend your lead after Paris-Nice, anyway. A very nice 24 point cushion after 3 races.

    Overall scores after Paris-Nice
    Name               Score
    -----------------------------
    1    Richrd2205           146
    2    victorponf           122
    3    stagehopper          115
    4    alanjay              114
    5    Snorebens            111
    6    inkyfingers          99
    7    StrawberryFields     91
    8    rozzer32             90
    9    smithy21             87
    10   mr_poll              85
    11   gregster04           84
    12   bazbadger            82
    13   stfc1                81
    14   camerone             80
    15   jp1985               80
    16   Greggyr              78
    17   stjohnswell          76
    18   The Prodigy          75
    19   andyjr               74
    20   liamg                74
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • bazbadger
    bazbadger Posts: 553
    Ooh, 12th!

    Tony Martin was a good punt then :)

    Early days - this is likely my peak... :lol:
    Mens agitat molem
  • Richrd2205
    Richrd2205 Posts: 1,267
    afx237vi wrote:
    Well you've managed to extend your lead after Paris-Nice, anyway. A very nice 24 point cushion after 3 races.

    Given that my GC pick for Tirreno-Adriatico has now pulled out, I can't see me holding on much longer. Still, it's fun whilst it lasts!
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Yep, new leader after Tirreno, with PTP neophyte alanjay becoming the new leader. Snorebens moves up into second place.

    Overall scores after Tirreno-Adriatico
    Name               Score
    -----------------------------
    1    alanjay              172
    2    Snorebens            168
    3    Richrd2205           161
    4    rozzer32             146
    5    camerone             135
    6    Greggyr              134
    7    stagehopper          133
    8    victorponf           132
    9    sweendog28           126
    10   archieboy            125
    11   stfc1                121
    12   inkyfingers          120
    13   slimreaper           118
    14   Arkibal              116
    15   DeadCalm             116
    16   theknowledge         115
    17   tforonda             114
    18   hommelbier           109
    19   skut                 101
    20   StrawberryFields     101
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    Ooooo up to 4th! Surely it's not a good thing to peak this soon
    ***** Pro Tour Pundit Champion 2020, 2018, 2017 & 2011 *****
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Richrd2205 back in the lead after MSR, Greggyr up to 2nd.

    100 points on offer next weekend with the E3 / G-W double-header.

    Overall scores after Milan-San Remo
    Name          Score
    ------------------------
    1    Richrd2205      196
    2    Greggyr         184
    3    alanjay         172
    4    Snorebens       168
    5    rozzer32        146
    6    camerone        135
    7    stagehopper     133
    8    victorponf      132
    9    sweendog28      126
    10   archieboy       125
    11   stfc1           121
    12   inkyfingers     120
    13   slimreaper      118
    14   Arkibal         116
    15   DeadCalm        116
    16   theknowledge    115
    17   GroupOfOne      114
    18   tforonda        114
    19   hommelbier      109
    20   skut            101
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    Afx, quite weird that Tour Poland is included and Volta a Catalunya (100th edition) not, i haven't realised before.
    If you like Flandes, Roubaix or Eroica, you would like GP Canal de Castilla, www.gpcanaldecastilla.com
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    victorponf wrote:
    Afx, quite weird that Tour Poland is included and Volta a Catalunya (100th edition) not, i haven't realised before.

    The Tour of Poland pads out the back end of the season when not many other races are happening. Unfortunately, Catalunya always comes up against other races. Plus it doesn't have much coverage on TV, which is a shame.
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    afx237vi wrote:
    victorponf wrote:
    Afx, quite weird that Tour Poland is included and Volta a Catalunya (100th edition) not, i haven't realised before.

    The Tour of Poland pads out the back end of the season when not many other races are happening. Unfortunately, Catalunya always comes up against other races. Plus it doesn't have much coverage on TV, which is a shame.

    Ok, thanks for the explanatio Afx
    If you like Flandes, Roubaix or Eroica, you would like GP Canal de Castilla, www.gpcanaldecastilla.com
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    No prob Victor.

    Richrd2205 still leading after the E3 / GW weekend. rozzer32 jumps up to 2nd, alanjay remains in 3rd.

    Overall scores after E3 Prijs & Gent-Wevelgem
    Name               Score
    -----------------------------
    1    Richrd2205           246
    2    rozzer32             231
    3    alanjay              222
    4    Snorebens            218
    5    DeadCalm             201
    6    jp1985               200
    7    theknowledge         200
    8    Greggyr              199
    9    ShockedSoShocked     198
    10   Art Vandelay         196
    11   camerone             185
    12   liamg                185
    13   stagehopper          183
    14   stanislav            182
    15   victorponf           182
    16   Woosha               178
    17   archieboy            175
    18   inkyfingers          170
    19   mr_poll              169
    20   slimreaper           168
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    I'm coming for you Richard :lol:
    ***** Pro Tour Pundit Champion 2020, 2018, 2017 & 2011 *****
  • inkyfingers
    inkyfingers Posts: 4,400
    I'm quickly sliding back to my normal mid table anonymity!
    "I have a lovely photo of a Camargue horse but will not post it now" (Frenchfighter - July 2013)
  • Top ten! It won't last I'm sure, but I'm enjoying it for now.
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    No real change after Flanders - everyone more or less Cancellarad each other out.

    Overall scores after the Ronde van Vlaanderen
    Name              Score
    ----------------------------
    1    Richrd2205          281
    2    rozzer32            266
    3    alanjay             257
    4    Snorebens           253
    5    DeadCalm            241
    6    jp1985              235
    7    theknowledge        235
    8    Greggyr             234
    9    ShockedSoShocked    233
    10   Art Vandelay        231
    11   camerone            220
    12   stagehopper         218
    13   stanislav           217
    14   victorponf          212
    15   archieboy           210
    16   tforonda            199
    17   Peter_K             196
    18   liamg               190
    19   Cheshire_Cat        189
    20   Moomaloid           187
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • cogidubnus
    cogidubnus Posts: 860
    Overall: Sam Sanchez

    1: Sam Sanchez
  • rozzer32
    rozzer32 Posts: 3,923
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    Overall: Sam Sanchez

    1: Sam Sanchez

    Facepalm

    Wrong thread dude!!
    ***** Pro Tour Pundit Champion 2020, 2018, 2017 & 2011 *****
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Cogidubnus wrote:
    Overall: Sam Sanchez

    1: Sam Sanchez

    Wrong thread, but noted.
  • cogidubnus
    cogidubnus Posts: 860
    lol that will teach me to have 2 threads open at once... Was just looking for my post in the proper thread too... :(

    You can tell its my first season at this.

    Cheers Afx, the rest of the stages will be in the right thread
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Top two places remain the same after Scheldeprijs, although Art Vandelay makes a big leap from 10th up into 3rd place.

    Overall scores after Scheldeprijs
    Name              Score
    ----------------------------
    1    Richrd2205          331
    2    rozzer32            316
    3    Art Vandelay        281
    4    camerone            270
    5    alanjay             257
    6    Snorebens           253
    7    tforonda            249
    8    DeadCalm            241
    9    liamg               240
    10   jp1985              235
    11   theknowledge        235
    12   Greggyr             234
    13   ShockedSoShocked    233
    14   ratsbeyfus          232
    15   inkyfingers         225
    16   stagehopper         218
    17   stanislav           217
    18   RichN95             214
    19   victorponf          212
    20   Arkibal             211
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • RichN95.
    RichN95. Posts: 27,253
    Blimey, I'm in the top 20. I'd better start making an effort.
    Twitter: @RichN95
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    Still the same top 5 after Pais Vasco, although Richrd2205 pulled his lead out a bit to 27 points.

    Overall scores after the Vuelta al Pais Vasco
    Name              Score
    ----------------------------
    1    Richrd2205          375
    2    rozzer32            348
    3    Art Vandelay        328
    4    camerone            302
    5    alanjay             294
    6    liamg               289
    7    Snorebens           286
    8    ratsbeyfus          280
    9    jp1985              279
    10   Greggyr             275
    11   ShockedSoShocked    267
    12   tforonda            263
    13   inkyfingers         258
    14   victorponf          257
    15   Arkibal             252
    16   DeadCalm            249
    17   Peter_K             249
    18   stanislav           249
    19   archieboy           248
    20   RichN95             245
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • afx237vi
    afx237vi Posts: 12,630
    The only change after Roubaix is all the leaders have 40 more points.

    Overall scores after Paris-Roubaix
    Name              Score
    ----------------------------
    1    Richrd2205          415
    2    rozzer32            388
    3    Art Vandelay        368
    4    camerone            342
    5    liamg               329
    6    Snorebens           326
    7    ratsbeyfus          320
    8    jp1985              319
    9    ShockedSoShocked    307
    10   tforonda            303
    11   victorponf          297
    12   alanjay             294
    13   Arkibal             292
    14   archieboy           288
    15   Greggyr             285
    16   stfc1               284
    17   theknowledge        284
    18   smithy21            273
    19   inkyfingers         263
    20   Peter_K             259
    

    https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl= ... utput=html
  • victorponf
    victorponf Posts: 1,187
    Afx, i gonna be out for 2 weeks and i'd like to do my betting for this period:

    17 - Amstel Gold Race


    Gilbert

    20 - La Fleche Wallone

    Purito Rodriguez

    24 - Liege-Bastogne-Liege

    Gilbert


    Thanks a lot
    If you like Flandes, Roubaix or Eroica, you would like GP Canal de Castilla, www.gpcanaldecastilla.com
  • liamg
    liamg Posts: 193
    I won't be here next week either. I've already put my Amstel pick in the thread but here are my two others:

    Fleche: Contador
    Liege: Sam Sanchez

    Cheers