FAO of those forumites riding ancient bikes
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sheepsteeth wrote:most likely to be stabbed? thats gotta be under your name surely.
Especially when he's no longer the 'official BR Tart' - that'll be me!! 8)
It's like a boxer trying to keep his belt after his ass has been knocked the feck out' :P
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someone over there has recommended i am reported for being offensive so i can be banned, i might join their forum and report the bloke who essentially threatened to knock my teeth down my throat.
they really dont understand what is happening, they have come over to try and defend their choice to ride old fashioned bikes (unnecessarily i might add as no one was insulting the choice to ride an ancient bike in the first place) but their mistake was sending over their most inept forum users who have only proved the validity of my questions.
maybe they should have had forum representative try outs first as at the moment, all that has happened is i now believe the answers to my questions are:
1 something very easy
b because i am poor and new bikes are complicated
iii all of the people on bike radar, especially sheepsteeth as he is such a legend.0 -
sheepsteeth wrote:..blah blah blah...
1 something very easy
b because i am poor and new bikes are complicated
iii all of the people on bike radar, especially sheepsteeth as he is such a legend.
I would like to change my previous answers to the above.0 -
I *personally* don't see anything wrong with the original thread, I do however think that this is all getting a bit childish and is being dragged out by people who seemingly have nothing better to do. As for reporting your posts, that's the most childish thing I have heard.
As I originally mentioned, I have nothing against retro bikes, I have been riding for 25 years and had some of those 'retro-machines' when they were new, but now I like my £4k generic piece of crap ... I have earnt the right to make that choice. Wouldn't you say?
I say let this one go, obviously some feathers have been ruffled and must now be greased back into place.. 0 -
Strange, the original post is so stupid I would have thought a troll was behind it, but Webster seems to have over 13k posts! Can anyone explain?0
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djoptix wrote:Strange, the original post is so stupid I would have thought a troll was behind it, but Webster seems to have over 13k posts! Can anyone explain?
yes, he is a legend.0 -
djoptix wrote:Strange, the original post is so stupid I would have thought a troll was behind it, but Webster seems to have over 13k posts! Can anyone explain?
He is a very prolific troll.
A somewhat belated welcome to the party.
Real ale crowd are over there in the corner. Beards optional.
ps who is Webster?I don't do smileys.
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Yes, very late sorry
Webster = OP = troll
Anyhoo, I've read the thread how but... honestly... I can't be bothered. I'm going out to ride my bike.0 -
Without trolls the internet would be a really boring place, with nothing to visit except pron sites.
For the sake of the moral fabric of society we should love, cherish and feed trolls.
The future of civilisation depends on them.I don't do smileys.
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websterisacocksucker wrote:Example...I changed a gear cable on my retro bike last weekend and was a bit pushed for time and didn't set up the indexing 100%. <snip> Now, if it was a modern POS, I'd have spent time today pissing about with the gearing.D
You've been riding this long and it still takes you more than about a minute to set up indexing? Even when the end positions are already set? Ah well.Uncompromising extremist0 -
exactly, that goes some way towards answering the 2nd question, the answer is because new bikes are too complex.0
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I think Modern bikes are great, if you can find terrain suited to being ridden on them. Advances in technology can render a favourite trail dull, so riding something old (or old fashioned) gives you the chance to still enjoy riding even if you can't get easy access to Red/Black run terrain.
The only old stuff that I think are so shoot they're unusable, would be canti brakes and elastomer suspension forks(perhaps 21 speed gearing too).0 -
Mmmm. I have canti front, a U brake on the back, no suspension and 18 speed gearing. Think I need to visit the tip tomorrow.
Fortunately for when I am feeling a bit soft, the other has discs (or should that be rotors?), air and 27.I don't do smileys.
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All that faffing about with those new fangled pneumatic tyres. Wooden wheels shod with iron are puncture proof.sheepsteeth wrote:exactly, that goes some way towards answering the 2nd question, the answer is because new bikes are too complex.I don't do smileys.
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very true.
im sad to see the RBers are remaining sober tonight so they can be up early for their jobs down the pit.0 -
themanfromdelmonte wrote:(perhaps 21 speed gearing too).
Nowt wrong with 7 speed. I think the reason I'm so happy with modern double-and-bash is because my brain still thinks 18 gears is the correct number for a bike Uncompromising extremist0 -
Northwind wrote:themanfromdelmonte wrote:(perhaps 21 speed gearing too).
Nowt wrong with 7 speed. I think the reason I'm so happy with modern double-and-bash is because my brain still thinks 18 gears is the correct number for a bike
I did say perhaps. There was always a bit of a jump somewhere in the middle of 7 speed cassette ratios. 8 speed felt much better, 9 didn't make THAT much of a difference. But I am surprised that 7 speed hasn't come back into use for Dirt Jump/Street bikes, due to the reduced dish in the rear wheel.0 -
I would say you started the thread with an aggressive attitude Webster. The way u asked the question and the next few replies seemed to imply that old bikes are crap and should be stuck in a garage gathering dust as they are now "obsolete". The retrobikes that we adore(yes i am a retrobiker) were built in a time when builders were pioneering the developements in tubing profiles and metal fabrication techniques that have morphed into your modern monocoque designs available today which are now mass produced in giant (literally) factories in Taiwan which seems to have taken a lot of the care and love out of the bike building process. Plus have you not noticed the resurgence in decent quality steel hardtails? Are u also aware that it takes skill to ride a rigid hardtail over rough terrain and that you are forced to pick and choose your lines as fast as possible which naturally when you jump onto your 5" travel trail bike allows you to be a more skilful rider as your responses and reactions are quicker which in turn allows you to be quicker. Have you seen Steve Peat in his early days racing a fully rigid kona? Oh and that they (retrobikes) are for poor people. I suggest you have a look at the prices of some decent quality steel retrobikes and compare them to your Ragleys, Charge Dusters, cubes, etc and then tell me if you think this is the poor mans way of getting into the sport. And FYI I am 32 years old and have been MTBing since the early 90's and love my retrobikes and my modern bikes equally.0
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cooldad wrote:
All that faffing about with those new fangled pneumatic tyres. Wooden wheels shod with iron are puncture proof.sheepsteeth wrote:exactly, that goes some way towards answering the 2nd question, the answer is because new bikes are too complex.
Can you get 700c versions? I need some for the commuter bike...0 -
El Capitano wrote:cooldad wrote:
All that faffing about with those new fangled pneumatic tyres. Wooden wheels shod with iron are puncture proof.sheepsteeth wrote:exactly, that goes some way towards answering the 2nd question, the answer is because new bikes are too complex.
Can you get 700c versions? I need some for the commuter bike...
Tried a horse?I don't do smileys.
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stew1978 wrote:
I would say you started the thread with an aggressive attitude Webster. *1
The way u asked the question and the next few replies seemed to imply that old bikes are crap and should be stuck in a garage gathering dust as they are now "obsolete". *2
The retrobikes that we adore(yes i am a retrobiker) were built in a time when builders were pioneering the developements in tubing profiles and metal fabrication techniques that have morphed into your modern monocoque designs available today which are now mass produced in giant (literally) factories in Taiwan which seems to have taken a lot of the care and love out of the bike building process.*3
Plus have you not noticed the resurgence in decent quality steel hardtails? *4
Are u also aware that it takes skill to ride a rigid hardtail over rough terrain and that you are forced to pick and choose your lines as fast as possible which naturally when you jump onto your 5" travel trail bike allows you to be a more skilful rider as your responses and reactions are quicker which in turn allows you to be quicker. *5
Have you seen Steve Peat in his early days racing a fully rigid kona?*6
Oh and that they (retrobikes) are for poor people. I suggest you have a look at the prices of some decent quality steel retrobikes and compare them to your Ragleys, Charge Dusters, cubes, etc and then tell me if you think this is the poor mans way of getting into the sport. *7.
1 i would say i know you ar ebut what am i
2 agreed
3 no, it has removed the hippyness.
4 no, i had noticed them being the big thing and now i dont see so many springing up, i even bought one and enjoyed it for a while before deciding they were webbo. i do however see loads of fs bikes so by your rationale, their presence must mean they are the way forwards?
5 am aware some people think this is true for them, i am aware that this isnt true for me.
6 are you aware that he was riding bikes like that when they were all that was available and have you noticed he no longer rides those bikes in races. i couldnt comment on why though
7 ragleys are cheap hippy bikes too.
i cant see what you are so upset about.0 -
You're right, they aren't.sheepsteeth wrote:Northwind wrote:I was going to stick proper tyres on it and go to glentress or something and see how it goes then I rode it round the block and remembered what old bikes are like.
now to be fair i havent ridden one of these retro mobiles but i just cant imagine them being fun to ride compared to their more modern counterparts thats why i wondered if it was more to do with reminiscing about the bad old days than being an enjoyable experience?
But there are numpties who can't ride well enough to see any advantage of modern bikes, so they will argue that riding a retro bike is more fun.
It's not. They just haven't got the balls or talent to do anything exciting on a newer, more capable bike.
It's like saying that watching your nails grow is more fun than playing in a rock band, because playing in a band requires some semblance of skill and practice.
Oh, and incidentally. Are you classing my old bike in the retro bikes category?0 -
sheepsteeth wrote:
i cant see what you are so upset about.
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
It's obvious that you can't, because of your lack of intellect or self-awareness and your extreme immaturity, as demonstrated by your puerile responses to other members' posts and an inability to see that other people's interests or views are no less valid than yours, just different.
To paraphrase Monty Python - You are not a legend, you're just a very naughty boy. Now put down that computer, go outside and play.0 -
matthew h wrote:What about retro road bikes........
Hmm, out of all of my bikes, my road bike is probably the most "retro". Frame's a 1982 Renoylds 531SL. I did renovate it in 1995 and it currently has a Campag 8spd drivetrain.
I'd thought about converting it to modern up-to-date 11spd last year, but spent the money on the NRS instead...0 -
Ah, so you don;t really ride on rough trails, so you don;t actually appreciate what a new machine can do?websterisacocksucker wrote:I've never riden anywhere that one of my retrobikes couldn't take me
Fair enough
Also being an old guard who'd been riding MTBs for a long long time, and just "bicycles" off road before then, I feel I have the official authority to call you a "cock"sheepsteehthisaknob wrote:i think being some of the "old guard " from the dawn of mtb time we(i) take offence at
people like you knocking and being openly confrontational toward our interests
i ride a modern bike occasionally but get more fun from my old bikes
i have more pride in their apperance ,more interest in their history and derive more fun
in the interest they generate at a rideout
my modern bike is fine ,but at the moment it sits in my shed after a mere hose down
no polish no wipe down and sit and stare that say a pace or fat or even an rts would get
as for being poor and not affording a modern bike ,i'd rather build 4 high end retro bikes
than buy a giant anthem or similar solutions to problems that dont exist bike
by the way i also own and ride several rigid single speeds
If you're the kind of rider who polishes and cleans his bikes lovingly, then
a) you're probably in the wrong sport
b) why not treat your new bike the same.
No, I am not aware of that.stew1978 wrote:IAre u also aware that it takes skill to ride a rigid hardtail over rough terrain and that you are forced to pick and choose your lines as fast as possible which naturally when you jump onto your 5" travel trail bike allows you to be a more skilful rider as your responses and reactions are quicker which in turn allows you to be quicker.
If you are finding line choice and trails easier on a full suss bike, RIDE FASTER
Now, whilst I appreciate the idea of doing up (interesting) classic cars for racing, I just don;t get why they're on the roads.cooldad wrote:Bit like driving an old sportscar. Something quite satisfying about getting round a corner at the limit on skinny tyres and marginal brakes, even if you'd get blown off by a modern hatch.
I happen to be unfortunate enough to live in an area with fantastic windy mountain roads that "driving enthusiasts" love to come and play in.
The trouble is, round here, we have to use these roads to go to work, or shopping, or, well... everything.
Getting held up behind some real ale drinking nonce in a classic all through summer gets tedious really fast.
There's a flipping race track down the road, go and have a play on that instead of holding up traffic.
Another thing that raises my curiosity is when people renovate really dull classic cars.
Ones that were ingenious at the time, or had some special something, I can understand, but I see the most mundane things at classic car shows. (same is even more true of retro bikers, really - since there's even less old MTBs with that WOW factor - maybe a handful at best)0 -
Gerryattrick wrote:sheepsteeth wrote:
i cant see what you are so upset about.
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It's obvious that you can't, because of your lack of intellect or self-awareness and your extreme immaturity, as demonstrated by your puerile responses to other members' posts and an inability to see that other people's interests or views are no less valid than yours, just different.
To paraphrase Monty Python - You are not a legend, you're just a very naughty boy. Now put down that computer, go outside and play.
the people who cant understand the value of an opinion different to theirs are your lot who have gotten their long johns in a twist over a series of questions. none of which were directed at any of them. i asked questions and responded sensibly to actual responses and not cries for my approval.
many of your lot (im assuming you are their spokesperson now you are not posting whilst drunk off your asss) have only come over to complain about modern bike riders whereas this debate started off with people giving sensible answers.
the fact you are getting so upset that you havent had the mental capacity to enlighten me in the slightest only proves how legendary i am as you come, one after another to try and tell me how good you are at riding bikes in the hope i will finally agree and count you as equal.
also, i am clearly a legend.0 -
sheepsteeth wrote:
the (The) people who cant (can't) understand the value of an opinion different to theirs are your lot who have gotten their long johns in a twist over a series of questions. (,) none of which were directed at any of them. i (I) asked questions and responded sensibly (Where?) to actual responses and not cries for my approval.
many (Many) of your lot (im (I'm) assuming you are their spokesperson now you are not posting whilst drunk off your asss (arse)) have only come over to complain about modern bike riders whereas this debate started off with people giving sensible answers (which you completely ignored).
the (The) fact you are getting so upset that you havent (haven't) had the mental capacity to enlighten me in the slightest (an impossibility in your case I'm afraid) only proves how legendary i (I) am as you come, one after another to try and tell me how good you are at riding bikes in the hope i (I) will finally agree and count you as equal (I'd rather you didn't count me as an equal, please).
also (Also) i (I) am clearly a legend.(leg end)
Clearly this debate has run its time and arguing with you is like picking at a sore; it will never get better.0 -
Wow picking up on people's capitalisation and apostrophe usage. The last stand of the desperate and pathetic :roll:0
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Gerryattrick wrote:
i dont know how to win an argument i started (for no actual reason)against a superior intellect, i therefore concede.
fair enough, i will also say no more on the matter seeing as i have won the argument you started.0
