FAO of those forumites riding ancient bikes
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sheepsteeth wrote:true, i can only assume riding an old bike (i mean one of those which would be considered retro by some) is about nostalgia? it surely cant be about pleasure can it?
Its about pleasure! Example...I changed a gear cable on my retro bike last weekend and was a bit pushed for time and didn't set up the indexing 100%. Never mind, I flipped the THUMBIE to friction and rode it anyway. I'll fix that before the next ride I thought.
Fast forward a week and said bike is still as I left it last Sunday afternoon.
Now, if it was a modern POS, I'd have spent time today pissing about with the gearing.
Instead of that I've been out on a date with a rather lovely yoga instructor called Karen, been to the pub with my mates and had time to create this username just to poke fun at you with your zero skill requirement modern bike.
I've never riden anywhere that one of my retrobikes couldn't take me and I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have received shouts of encouragement at Mayhem last year riding some generic POS, like I did on my Overburys
Have a nice (and probably quite boring!) weekend
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Bit like driving an old sportscar. Something quite satisfying about getting round a corner at the limit on skinny tyres and marginal brakes, even if you'd get blown off by a modern hatch.
And to get the same out of a modern car, you'd have to be doing a rather antisocial speed that would probably get you locked up.
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Plus nobody in their right mind would pinch my old GT.
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websterisacocksucker wrote:I've been out on a date with a rather lovely yoga instructor called Karen, been to the pub with my mates and had time to create this username just to poke fun at you with your zero skill requirement modern bike.
why are you home so early?0 -
sheepsteeth wrote:websterisacocksucker wrote:I've been out on a date with a rather lovely yoga instructor called Karen, been to the pub with my mates and had time to create this username just to poke fun at you with your zero skill requirement modern bike.
why are you home so early?
Probably going out riding his bike tomorrow.0 -
Sheeps, you started the thread in a fairly aggressive way, hence the majority of responses being quite defensive
'What the hell are you planning to ride on them', could have been phrased 'what sort of terrain do you ride on them?'
Who are you trying to impress? I have no idea why you thought that phrase would be useful. Why would any cyclist (retro or modern) want to impress someone?
But if you hadn't worded the 1st post as you did you wouldn't have gotten the response that I believe you wanted, a highly charged debate
If you want an honest answer from me, my original reply is as honest as it gets, I like bikes, all bikes modern & retro, I like to ride them, restore them and have fun on them. Believe it or not you can have fun on old bikes & you can ride them almost anywhere that you can ride a modern bike
If you want to have a go on one of my older bikes feel free, you never know might like it!
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so you dont like old bikes then and you dont understand why we ride them ?0
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i cant understand why retrobike riders are so upset about me asking them what they do with their bikes.
i havent abused any old bikes or said anything particularly derogatory to anyone (except for calling some one a bellend for acting like one after he told me i was stuck up my own obvious)
however, my questions (i urge you to go back and read my contributions to this thread without a prejudiced eye and list where i have asked for a fight) have illicited a threat from someone who doesnt know me to have my teeth knocked out, my bike has been called a POS, i have been accused of being all sorts and apparently i dont know my way around a bike with a set of spanners.
i dont mind that folk like old bikes, i just dont understand it, i get the impression its because those people are poor though and cant afford modern bikes.
i opened this thread due to the recent couple of forumites showing off their retro bikes, not for any other reason.
so, why do retro bikers get so upset, so easily ?0 -
I thought people who ride old bikes were just poor? I don't like poor people, hence the reason I try to spit on them as they pass me on my nice shiny modern bike..0
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i think being some of the "old guard " from the dawn of mtb time we(i) take offence at
people like you knocking and being openly confrontational toward our interests
i ride a modern bike occasionally but get more fun from my old bikes
i have more pride in their apperance ,more interest in their history and derive more fun
in the interest they generate at a rideout
my modern bike is fine ,but at the moment it sits in my shed after a mere hose down
no polish no wipe down and sit and stare that say a pace or fat or even an rts would get
as for being poor and not affording a modern bike ,i'd rather build 4 high end retro bikes
than buy a giant anthem or similar solutions to problems that dont exist bike
by the way i also own and ride several rigid single speeds0 -
I think a lot of you are taking this a little far, I don't think he was/is being as inflammatory as you think...
We all have opinions, I for one love some old-skool rides, the reason I like them is a mix of nostalgia, the old-skool 'no frills' feel and I like restoring bikes.... hell, have even had a couple of retro-projects recently (although I did end up selling them after restoration though)
But seriously? If you were to ask me which I prefer to ride, I would say modern. As things have moved on so much, that is not to say I don't like the feel of an old retro, steelie with rigids0 -
Sheeps, It's not that you asked, it's the way you asked!
You could ask the same about modern bikes
1. what the hell are you planning to ride on those £3000 bikes
b. why
iii who are you trying to impress with your £3000 bike
Cue a confrontational topic about modern bikes....0 -
sheepsteehthisaknob wrote:i think being some of the "old guard " from the dawn of mtb time we(i) take offence at
people like you knocking and being openly confrontational toward our interests
who are people like me, when did i knock anyones bike?
hell, i even asked in here instead of cluttering up someones thread in my rides
why do you feel the need to speak for all retro riders (are you all a single entity), you are the third to come and do it (i think) am i to be visited by you all tonight?
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just different opinions fella
dont do trail centeres and the whole easy access thing very often but when i do
i get annoyed with the generalised riders that have a 4 grand bike and 20p's worth of abilitiy . same with the bloke i meet occasionally on my local trails ,he rides a santacruz
thing in what looks like a 14" ,strangley never any mud on him (heli-biking?)
he sneers at my rigid stumpy or my"queer looking" alpinestars
saying that i havent seen him since the autumn ,he's mebee down the gym
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sheepsteeth wrote:i didnt want to clutter up the my rides threads so i want to ask some questions here.
1. what the hell are you planning to ride on those bikes
b. why
iii who are you trying to impress
Fair questions even if asked with I suspect a mischevious intent
Not sure if the wording is correct on 1 and b but i'm guessing your asking why do you ride retro and what for. So I'll take a punt I've always liked the simpler things in life..I am sure your partner can relate to that.
My phone..a nokia 8910i..1 inch screen, txts and calls..thats all I'll need it for. I appreciate some get caught up in the must have the latest gadget right now..O damm I'm in a 24 month contract and they brought out a new version after 12 months..I dig that..truly..just for some keeping something, working on it and still 10, 15 years later it brings a smile to your face may seem alien to those latest must haves.
Me? I've converted and used old steel mountain bikes(marins are my preffered rides) to ride not in just one or two forests or one or two hills but have travelled all over north america, britian, northern, eastern, western and southern europe. so they do get used and not all are ornaments or have the latest 5k of sparkly kit to go no further than a sunday ride 4 times a year. I ride roads, dirts tracks, rivers, off road..all terrains really as my bike is geared to be all things to all circumstances so I do what's important to me..riding and I have to say on my various bikes I must have ridden over the years tens of thousands of miles and for me personally the older steel bikes put more smiles per miles on my ugly mush than anything new could
I see the same style of power ranger style on the motorcycling scence..latest all singing all dancing ridden a few times a year by summer experts whilst some of us ride a bike all year round racking up the mileage using the very thing we like in the way we like.
Why retro..as pointed out why not..it's bike, two wheels and pedals..wether it's 20 years old or 5k on a bank loan for the latest all singing all dancing piece of kit..surely the question shouldn't be why retro but why don't we all try keeping something longer than the latest fashion.
It's also a bit silly to assume when it comes to mint ornaments that a few retro riders are the only riders to do this
Who are we seeking to impress? I wouldn't say impress, certianly have pride in something you have taken from a broken wreck and brought something back to life to live another 20 years Impress no one but glad we can push the boundaries of cycling beyond what can I afford this week and forget tommorow
I hope that helps chap with your questions?0 -
sheepsteehthisaknob wrote:just different opinions fella
dont do trail centeres and the whole easy access thing very often but when i do
i get annoyed with the generalised riders that have a 4 grand bike and 20p's worth of abilitiy*
. same with the bloke i meet occasionally on my local trails ,he rides a santacruz
thing in what looks like a 14" ,strangley never any mud on him (heli-biking?)**
he sneers at my rigid stumpy or my"queer looking" alpinestars ***
saying that i havent seen him since the autumn ,he's mebee down the gym
or at ballroom dancing lessons
*why do you get annoyed, whats your beef with them?
** why do you care if he hasnt got any mud on him
***so you dislike a man on a bike who thinks your bikes look websters?
just because the retrobike fraternity is one entity, it doesnt mean everyone on modern bikes is the same single entity, why the fnk would we care that you met a person you didnt like and why would you go on the interwebs to take out your frustrations on unrelated people?0 -
i have to ask why you feel the need too question old bikes on a BIKE forun
after all you started it , where ......etc
i'm just sticking up for something i enjoy
for me its not a throw away fashion thing bikes are the one thing beyond my wife
that are a constant in my life be they motor cycles or pedall bikes
the motorcycle comparison is quite poingnent , born agains ,newbees the sort of folk that look down on the dyed in the wool bikers and can never understand why you'd want to
ride a fashion toy as a viable means of transport all year round
same with MTBer's
so your 30 ish or less
been into cycleing for 3/4 years
what dio you ride ,at a guess an "all mountian " generalized orange comencall cloneeebike ?0 -
sheepsteehthisaknob wrote:my modern bike is fine ,but at the moment it sits in my shed after a mere hose down
no polish no wipe down and sit and stare that say a pace or fat or even an rts would get
Here's a thought for you. Say you keep your modern bike that you have now for 20 years, will you clean and polish it then? :?Never argue with an idiot, he'll only drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.0 -
Blimey, I step away for a few hours to go get pissed, and when I come out The world has declared war on Sheepsteeth.
As I suspect the initial post was somewhat aimed at myself I can tell you:
1. From my house to work and then back again. and sometimes along the prom with the kids.
b. Because I'll not be doing any MTBing anymore, the Mmmbop was not really suited to commuting, a roadbike was not an option, and cheap (£200ish) modern MTBs are a bag of shit.
Manily because I could get the entire bike, with good quality, reliable kit, under 25lbs, for £200 though.
iii. Not sure I follow, why do I need to be trying to impress someone? Is that what you were thinking when you bought your bikes?0 -
sheepsteehthisaknob wrote:i have to ask why you feel the need too question old bikes on a BIKE forun
after all you started it , where ......etc
i'm just sticking up for something i enjoy
for me its not a throw away fashion thing bikes are the one thing beyond my wife
that are a constant in my life be they motor cycles or pedall bikes
the motorcycle comparison is quite poingnent , born agains ,newbees the sort of folk that look down on the dyed in the wool bikers and can never understand why you'd want to
ride a fashion toy as a viable means of transport all year round
same with MTBer's
so your 30 ish or less
been into cycleing for 3/4 years
what dio you ride ,at a guess an "all mountian " generalized orange comencall cloneeebike ?
Hey Hey Hey..I told you before about eating mushrooms before going onto the p.c.
I really doesn't matter wether you ride a bike you found in a skip for free or paid thousands for a bike you may only ride twice, it also doesn't matter wether you stick a bike up on the walll or ride it every day or wether the bike is 5 minutes old or 20 years old 8)
What does matter is the part of your life that has two wheels in it and however that works with you that it brings a smile to your face
The retro scene is healthy, has a large group following, is incredibly helpfull to it's members and yet still maintains bikes first..the retro scene maybe not your bag but most are ridden, a lot off road and still remember where it all started,,,I personally don't see that as a negative so will continue to enjoy the retro scene0 -
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sheepsteehthisaknob wrote:i have to ask why you feel the need too question old bikes on a BIKE forun
after all you started it , where ......etc
i'm just sticking up for something i enjoy
for me its not a throw away fashion thing bikes are the one thing beyond my wife
that are a constant in my life be they motor cycles or pedall bikes
the motorcycle comparison is quite poingnent , born agains ,newbees the sort of folk that look down on the dyed in the wool bikers and can never understand why you'd want to
ride a fashion toy as a viable means of transport all year round
same with MTBer's
so your 30 ish or less
been into cycleing for 3/4 years
what dio you ride ,at a guess an "all mountian " generalized orange comencall cloneeebike ?
i remind you to go and look at the start of this thread, it started grown up and sensible with people offering their knowledge and experience.
it only took a wrong turn when retro bike riding children tipped up and got all upset for no reason.
a number of times the new forumites have mentioned being looked down upon and referred to them selves as dyed in the wool, suggesting they are someho better than people who are new to the sport and should be treated with a bit of respect because of it.
a number of times you new folks have expressed their disgust at all the gear no idea types, this is a subject which rears its jealous head pretty regularly and always results in the revelation that the folk with the issues are actually jealous.
finally, the question number 3 was meant to be a bit tongue n cheek, i should probably have included a smiley of some sort. however, replies to this thread such as "i like to have a bike which creates interest" and " i doubt i would have been cheered by people at a race on a modern bike" and the very fact that you have come over here to get into an argument of your own creation suggests that it was a reasonable question with the conclusion "i am trying to show off to everyone"
so thanks for coming along, i have enjoyed it very much.0 -
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In fairness, he did post this in the Crud Catcher, where anything goes. But you're new, so you won't understand this.sheepsteehthisaknob wrote:i have to ask why you feel the need too question old bikes on a BIKE forun
By the way, it's spelt foruM :twisted:It takes as much courage to have tried and failed as it does to have tried and succeeded.
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i thnk someone was posting whilst fuelled by booze (probably real ale i would imagine seeing as this thread is full of assumptions)0
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sheepsteeth wrote:i thnk someone was posting whilst fuelled by booze (probably real ale i would imagine seeing as this thread is full of assumptions) 0
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I forgot I'm the most likely to be stabbed by another forumite! Thats the second forum I've won that award on...0
