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Chinny (Cancellara) next year

iainf72iainf72 Posts: 15,774
edited January 2011 in Pro race
According to 39teeth / Innerring, he ain't riding Roubaix or Flanders. His target is to win LBL.

It also seems he's going to win the Velo d'Or.
Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.
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  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 7,107
    yeah not a bad choice

    given he rides the TT as well as the classics
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  • wickedwicked Posts: 844
    iainf72 wrote:
    According to 39teeth / Innerring, he ain't riding Roubaix or Flanders. His target is to win LBL.

    It also seems he's going to win the Velo d'Or.

    If he is going to be in anything like the form of this year then I am glad is not riding PR or RvV, it will more interesting to watch and give some of the others a chance!
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  • Monty DogMonty Dog Posts: 20,614
    L-B-L? He's going to have to fit a bigger battery to that motor of his! Was this rumour started by the same folks who suggested he could be a GT contender too?
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  • calvjonescalvjones Posts: 3,850
    if Chinny drops Pip up la Redoute or St Nicholas I will stop watching road cycling forever.
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  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 7,107
    calvjones wrote:
    if Chinny drops Pip up la Redoute or St Nicholas I will stop watching road cycling forever.

    I wouldn't rule it out

    more likley he can hang on and leave it for the l'ain
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  • ridgeriderridgerider Posts: 2,757
    Especially as he wants to take his bike mechanic with him to whatever team he rides for next year...
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  • He shouldn't be criticised for this. He sets himself very clear goals for a season, and more often than not achieves them. It will be.....intriguing is probably the best word.... to see if he can do it but fair play to him for havin a go
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  • Monty DogMonty Dog Posts: 20,614
    If he wins, I predict one of those "WTF?" moments like when Hincapie won at Plat D'adet in the category of "tooled up" wins.
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  • KléberKléber Posts: 6,842
    ridgerider wrote:
    Especially as he wants to take his bike mechanic with him to whatever team he rides for next year...
    His mechanic has reputedly signed for the Luxembourg outfit
  • andyrrandyrr Posts: 1,490
    calvjones wrote:
    if Chinny drops Pip up la Redoute or St Nicholas I will stop watching road cycling forever.

    In fairness, he's said before that repeatedly winning the same races doesn't hold that much appeal for him, having won a race once that is it marked off, on to the next new different target. Fairly logical to go from Flanders & Roubaix to, what ? GT ? - quite far-fetched, although minor tours are obviously achievable such as TdS, so if he is at the front for the hillier ones like L-B-L or Amstel or even if he can get away on his own then getting over the last few climbs would have him somewhere at the very sharp-end of the race at the finale.
  • inkyfingersinkyfingers Posts: 4,397
    I'd be very surprised if he won LBL, he'd surely need to lose a good few KGs and hope that the climbers don't turn the heat up too much until the last few Kilometres. If Gilbert/Sanchez/Cunego etc go hard on La Redoute or another big climb then surely they could distance him? Then again he's an incredible bike rider so who knows...
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  • LangerDanLangerDan Posts: 6,132
    I thought Chinny was looking considerably less barrel-chested at the Worlds this year. Maybe he has already started on the Slim-Fast plan?
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    I'd be very surprised if he won LBL, he'd surely need to lose a good few KGs and hope that the climbers don't turn the heat up too much until the last few Kilometres. If Gilbert/Sanchez/Cunego etc go hard on La Redoute or another big climb then surely they could distance him? Then again he's an incredible bike rider so who knows...

    He did it in Switzerland last year.

    Can't see why he couldn't achieve that same level when it gets hilly.

    He's one of those few riders who is very very good at targetting a specific race.

    The opposite of Evans.

    I'd say it's tougher for him than cobbled races, but certainly not out of his reach.
  • inkyfingersinkyfingers Posts: 4,397
    I think the 2009 TDS was pretty much designed for Cancellara to win, a week long stage race with diluted hills, a longish prologue and a 40k TT. In 2010 the route was tougher and he was nowhere near.

    I don't think it's impossible for him to win LBL but i'd be very surprised.
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  • RichN95.RichN95. Posts: 22,895
    If he's targeting LBL, does this suggest that he's not joining the Schlecks, as that's one of the only two races that Andy can be bothered with.
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  • inkyfingersinkyfingers Posts: 4,397
    RichN95 wrote:
    If he's targeting LBL, does this suggest that he's not joining the Schlecks, as that's one of the only two races that Andy can be bothered with.

    That's what I was thinking...maybe Andy will target Fleche or Amstel if Cancellara ends up on the same team.
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  • calvjonescalvjones Posts: 3,850
    I don't doubt he *could* win it, with a following wind and luck on his side, but it has to be a long shot, and if he misses out, he ain't gonna win Fleche or Amstel, and there's no prologue in the Tour so it will be a very lean season indeed - not good for either a new team or BMC.

    I'd like to see him try it, but if he succeeds, I hope its through the censored riding of others as in P-R, rather than dropping climbers on tough, longish hills which was my original point.
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  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 7,107
    LBL will be an ask but possible.... if he wins the Fleche from a bunch finish It really will be something... that's when Calvj should stop watching
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  • iainf72iainf72 Posts: 15,774
    Does everyone forget his ride in the Worlds last year?

    Or his ride in the Olympics RR? He's going to lose 3kg's and if he arrived at LBL right on the top of his form, he could win.
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    iainf72 wrote:
    Does everyone forget his ride in the Worlds last year?

    Or his ride in the Olympics RR? He's going to lose 3kg's and if he arrived at LBL right on the top of his form, he could win.

    *ahem*
    He did it in Switzerland last year.

    Can't see why he couldn't achieve that same level when it gets hilly.
  • PokerfacePokerface Posts: 8,640
    He's one rider I wouldn't bet against if he says he's targeting a specific event.
  • shinyhelmutshinyhelmut Posts: 1,341
    I'd be very surprised if he won LBL, he'd surely need to lose a good few KGs and hope that the climbers don't turn the heat up too much until the last few Kilometres. If Gilbert/Sanchez/Cunego etc go hard on La Redoute or another big climb then surely they could distance him? Then again he's an incredible bike rider so who knows...

    If he switched from NiCads to Lithium Ions that would save him a KG or 2 :lol:
  • Steve2020Steve2020 Posts: 133
    iainf72 wrote:
    Does everyone forget his ride in the Worlds last year?

    Or his ride in the Olympics RR? He's going to lose 3kg's and if he arrived at LBL right on the top of his form, he could win.

    Doesn't seem much more surprising than Sean Kelly winning LBL (not to mention Lombardy)
  • andypandyp Posts: 8,128
    The same Sean Kelly who won the Vuelta and finished fourth in the Tour?

    Kelly could climb with the best. Cancellara hasn't demonstrated a similar level of ability.
  • inkyfingersinkyfingers Posts: 4,397
    Steve2020 wrote:
    iainf72 wrote:
    Does everyone forget his ride in the Worlds last year?

    Or his ride in the Olympics RR? He's going to lose 3kg's and if he arrived at LBL right on the top of his form, he could win.

    Doesn't seem much more surprising than Sean Kelly winning LBL (not to mention Lombardy)

    I'd disagree actually, when Kelly was at the same stage of his career as Cancellara is now he had already won all the monuments except for Flanders, finished top 10 in both The Tour and The Vuelta and won Paris Nice a few times and more. Kelly could always climb well (though not a pure climber) as well as sprint and TT.

    I've said throughout this thread that i think Cancellara is an exceptional rider and maybe he could win LBL with a bit of luck, but he's not Sean Kelly.
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  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 7,107
    I wouldn't be surprised if chinny just shows up at LBL and just rides off!
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  • rick_chaseyrick_chasey Posts: 46,622 Lives Here
    I wouldn't be surprised if chinny just shows up at LBL and just rides off!

    I sense you big love in with the hefty Canc has been tempered with some cynicism?
  • mididoctorsmididoctors Posts: 7,107
    I wouldn't be surprised if chinny just shows up at LBL and just rides off!

    I sense you big love in with the hefty Canc has been tempered with some cynicism?

    well at least it has freaky jaw dropping entertainment value and he is incredibly focused I suppose..the issue is not so much "is he" as "when will he "

    he is consummate "professional".. can ride a bike and all :wink:

    12 yrs ago it wouldn't have bothered me

    Fabian is one the upcoming year's big too watch this space stories

    can he get over the hills or not?

    adds interest but OTOH if he gets rumbled its all just another farce
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  • MoontraneMoontrane Posts: 233
    iainf72 wrote:
    Does everyone forget his ride in the Worlds last year?

    Or his ride in the Olympics RR? He's going to lose 3kg's and if he arrived at LBL right on the top of his form, he could win.

    We should all remeber that ride, ianf72!

    Beijing Olympic RR was 150 miles with 11,500' of climbing. Fabian Cancellara was well in the mix, finishing 2nd.

    2009 World's RR in Mendrisio was 163 miles with 15,273' of climbing. Cancellara was 5th and one of the main protagonists.

    LBL is about 160 miles with 13,000' of climbing.

    Cancellara can surely perform at the highest levels with the best of the hilly riders. He's looking for new worlds to conquer, and LBL and Lombardia are in his sights.
    I believe he'll win at least one of them
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  • MoontraneMoontrane Posts: 233
    iainf72 wrote:
    Does everyone forget his ride in the Worlds last year?

    Or his ride in the Olympics RR? He's going to lose 3kg's and if he arrived at LBL right on the top of his form, he could win.

    We should all remeber that ride, ianf72!

    Beijing Olympic RR was 150 miles with 11,500' of climbing. Fabian Cancellara was well in the mix, finishing 2nd.

    2009 World's RR in Mendrisio was 163 miles with 15,273' of climbing. Cancellara was 5th and one of the main protagonists.

    LBL is about 160 miles with 13,000' of climbing.

    Cancellara can surely perform at the highest levels with the best of the hilly riders. He's looking for new worlds to conquer, and LBL and Lombardia are in his sights.
    I believe he'll win at least one of them
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