Boardman 2011 range

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  • plife
    plife Posts: 97
    MaxwellBygraves wrote:
    Thought they were supposed to be launched today?
    I think the launch is going on now.
    Boardman FS Pro 2010
    Felt F5 2011
  • Kidge004
    Kidge004 Posts: 123
    that link looks quite legitimate, ive seen the team road bike and its the exact one....
  • plife
    plife Posts: 97
    Boardman site has been updated with new models.
    Boardman FS Pro 2010
    Felt F5 2011
  • gsk82
    gsk82 Posts: 3,620
    the air 94 looks good, but then most do with deep rims. looks like they could be going away from the cycle to work market, which may be an error as a lot of "real cyclists" won't buy from halfords.
    "Unfortunately these days a lot of people don’t understand the real quality of a bike" Ernesto Colnago
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    Team carbon now has 105, is 1/2lb heavier and £300 more expensive?
    No longer my next bike I'm afraid
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    gsk82 wrote:
    the air 94 looks good, but then most do with deep rims. looks like they could be going away from the cycle to work market, which may be an error as a lot of "real cyclists" won't buy from halfords.

    You'd have to be a weak minded and/or snobby individual to refuse to buy a particular bike because it's only available from a particular chain. Just buy it boxed and build it yourself.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    bompington wrote:
    Team carbon now has 105, is 1/2lb heavier and £300 more expensive?
    No longer my next bike I'm afraid

    Where's the weight come from?
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    gsk82 wrote:
    looks like they could be going away from the cycle to work market, which may be an error as a lot of "real cyclists" won't buy from halfords.
    This.
    I'm not a Real Cyclist, there's no way I'm spending over £1000 on a bike up front, it's only the C2W that would make me think of spending that much.
    By holding the original Team Carbon at £1K, it became the bike for C2Wers - I've no idea what percentage of sales were C2W but I'll bet it was huge.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    bompington wrote:
    Team carbon now has 105, is 1/2lb heavier and £300 more expensive?
    No longer my next bike I'm afraid

    Where's the weight come from?
  • bompington
    bompington Posts: 7,674
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    bompington wrote:
    Team carbon now has 105, is 1/2lb heavier and £300 more expensive?
    No longer my next bike I'm afraid

    Where's the weight come from?
    If you meant "where did you find the figure?":
    The Boardman website - click on the Spec tab & you'll see it's 18.2lbs, the old one was 17.6 i.e. the magic 8kg.

    Or did you mean "what's heavier"? I don't know, and I'm aware that it's not such a big issue in reality (especially when I'm not quite halfway through trying to lose 24lbs) it just seems a bit much to take when the price is getting hiked.

    My original Team Carbon was a revelation, I was orignally persuaded by the CW "10/10" review and the overwhelmingly positive comments from buyers (never mind the comments about Halford!), but I'll be shopping round a bit more for a comparable £1K bike when the C2W payments finish & I can start again.
  • bigmat
    bigmat Posts: 5,134
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    bompington wrote:
    Team carbon now has 105, is 1/2lb heavier and £300 more expensive?
    No longer my next bike I'm afraid

    Where's the weight come from?

    The move to 105 must add around 1lb to the bike's weight? Heavy groupset compared to Sram / Campag.
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  • The Spiderman
    The Spiderman Posts: 5,625
    Pricier yes,but still competive given that the big manufcturers have hiked their prices considerably too.£1800 seeems to be the going rate for a 105 equipped carbon bike these days so £1500 would be competive in 2011.
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    2010 Giant Defy Advanced
    2016 Boardman Pro 29er
    2016 Pinnacle Lithium 4
    2017 Canondale Supersix Evo
  • plife
    plife Posts: 97
    The Spiderman wrote:
    Pricier yes,but still competive given that the big manufcturers have hiked their prices considerably too.£1800 seeems to be the going rate for a 105 equipped carbon bike these days so £1500 would be competive in 2011.
    Got to agree here. It does not look as good value as the last version (isn't that the same with most brands 2011 bikes??) but it is still very competitive compared to mainstream manufactures.

    What other 105 carbon bikes are available for less?

    I think they also look better than the older models, and this has thrown me into a quandry over what bike to get with my £1800 C2W voucher - Pro Carbon, Felt F5 or Cannondale Supersix 105!!
    Boardman FS Pro 2010
    Felt F5 2011
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    plife wrote:
    The Spiderman wrote:
    What other 105 carbon bikes are available for less?

    You can build most of the Ribble carbon frames with full 105 for way less than £1500. I suspect the same may be true for Planet X as well.
    I think they also look better than the older models, and this has thrown me into a quandry over what bike to get with my £1800 C2W voucher - Pro Carbon, Felt F5 or Cannondale Supersix 105!!

    I'd go for the Super Six out of those choices.
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    bompington wrote:
    Or did you mean "what's heavier"?

    I meant this. Sorry.
  • MaxwellBygraves
    MaxwellBygraves Posts: 1,353
    bompington wrote:
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    bompington wrote:
    Team carbon now has 105, is 1/2lb heavier and £300 more expensive?
    No longer my next bike I'm afraid

    Where's the weight come from?
    If you meant "where did you find the figure?":
    The Boardman website - click on the Spec tab & you'll see it's 18.2lbs, the old one was 17.6 i.e. the magic 8kg.

    Or did you mean "what's heavier"? I don't know, and I'm aware that it's not such a big issue in reality (especially when I'm not quite halfway through trying to lose 24lbs) it just seems a bit much to take when the price is getting hiked.

    My original Team Carbon was a revelation, I was orignally persuaded by the CW "10/10" review and the overwhelmingly positive comments from buyers (never mind the comments about Halford!), but I'll be shopping round a bit more for a comparable £1K bike when the C2W payments finish & I can start again.

    I think you might be being a bit unrealistic. I'd imagine they were making very little, if any, money on the Team Carbon model. No-one else was selling a full Rival carbon bike for under a grand with good reason - doesn't make money! Even if you do have Halfords purchasing power.
    Essentially did this to get the brand out there (worked well IMO) so now the brand and the model are established, they can actually start making a bit of money now people know the bikes aren't donkeys.
    For what they are they're still good value, high quality bikes.
    The only thing I don't agree with is the move to Rival to 105 - a lesser, heavier grouppo? What's that about?
    I think now they will sell the top end models through Halfords for a year or so to keep them at extremely competitive prices and then when these bikes are more established they will get a dealer network together and stop selling them through Halfords.
    "That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college! " - Homer
  • TMR
    TMR Posts: 3,986
    MaxwellBygraves wrote:
    The only thing I don't agree with is the move to Rival to 105 - a lesser, heavier grouppo?

    Rival better than 105? That's debatable TBH.
  • EKIMIKE
    EKIMIKE Posts: 2,232
    Honestly, their pricing is only in line with what every other manufacturer has done. Less for more. But maybe with Boardman you're getting nearly the same for more rather than less.

    If you look at a Specialized Allez Elite for example, a few years ago it was carbon seat-stays and 105. Now it's full alu and Tiagra. I think Boardman are doing well to hold their line at 105. The frames look quality IMO.

    The Alu team will simply become the C2W'ers choice.
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  • adwt2004
    adwt2004 Posts: 93
    i bagged my boardman comp xmas eve for £550 with a free boardman bottle (got to haggle!). All I can say is that although I do like the white 2011 comp, it is rrp'ed at £799. What a jolly good decision I made.

    The budget race version seems to be occupying the spot the comp used to take and is price at £650 and looks crap with sora.... Looks dark blue on their site, orrible!

    There is only so much price hiking they can do and it's safe to say I will make my bike last me forever before I'm willing to pay prices like that. My salary is not shooting upwards so they'll go the same way as any other bike maker. Specialized for example - over priced. Good riddance to all of them. Rant over! :wink:
  • MaxwellBygraves
    MaxwellBygraves Posts: 1,353
    The Mad Rapper wrote:
    MaxwellBygraves wrote:
    The only thing I don't agree with is the move to Rival to 105 - a lesser, heavier grouppo?

    Rival better than 105? That's debatable TBH.
    Well whether you prefer using one or the other is up to the individual.
    Fact is, it's half a kilo heavier, so that's largely where the extra weight on the Team Carbon is coming from.
    "That's it! You people have stood in my way long enough. I'm going to clown college! " - Homer
  • Jeff Jones
    Jeff Jones Posts: 1,865
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    http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/b ... d-em-29499
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  • rake
    rake Posts: 3,204
    i dont like the move to mavic wheels on the team carbon. new parts will be expensive. looks the same bike baring the paint wheels and 105.
  • JKHinton
    JKHinton Posts: 70
    Some nice bikes in the new Boardman Range but !

    I would have liked to have seen the Boardman range starting to be sold by some of the better Bike Shops in the UK. I did not mind buying my Team Carbon Via Halfords when they were available for under a grand, but at £1299 with the extra weight and - Sram Rival and with the bad service and after care of Halfords. I would not be prepared to pay the new higher prices and still have to deal with Halfords. Boardman need to break the link with Halfords.
  • Bar Shaker
    Bar Shaker Posts: 2,313
    JKHinton wrote:
    Some nice bikes in the new Boardman Range but !

    I would have liked to have seen the Boardman range starting to be sold by some of the better Bike Shops in the UK. I did not mind buying my Team Carbon Via Halfords when they were available for under a grand, but at £1299 with the extra weight and - Sram Rival and with the bad service and after care of Halfords. I would not be prepared to pay the new higher prices and still have to deal with Halfords. Boardman need to break the link with Halfords.

    Such a move would add considerable distribution costs. You can buy them on line, just like Planet X, Ribble etc if you can't stand the shame of being seen inside a Halfords store.

    The Boardman website says you need to straighten the handlebars and fit the pedals, that's it. The rest is done by Boardman before it gets boxed.

    Otherwise find a good Halfords. There are plenty of good ones out there.
    Boardman Elite SLR 9.2S
    Boardman FS Pro
  • StickDigital
    StickDigital Posts: 73
    Glad to see lots of love for the Boardmans :)

    Anyone tempted by the 2011 Team Carbon I would atke a good look at the spec compared to the 2010.. I have the 2010 and am not tempted by the 2011...

    ... I am however tempted by the Air 9.4! That's one sexy ass bike!

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  • rob13
    rob13 Posts: 430
    I paid £560 for my Road Comp just after Christmas including M540 Pedals and race guards which I thought was a great buy. Whilst the white colour scheme freshens the idea up, I'm pleased I bought when I did.

    If I was to buy a Boardman MTB to join the Roadie, I'd be looking at a 2nd hand Team or Pro rather than one of the newer models.

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