not quite the new apple iphone...
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There has to be something that is justifiable to hate though, sheeps. Maybe the ignorance of the people who buy them, or the excessive media attention their sub-par products get, or the fact that better things are left in the dust because of all the hype they've generated?
Something in there must make sense.
Personally, I like to hate without reason, rationality, or limits. I hate because I am. I am the physical embodiment of hatred.
Reasoned hatred seems like a waste, when you can instead turn it up to 12, and have proper foaming at the mouth, irrational hatred.
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well, i do love to hate things, maybe needing a reason is wasted hatred? 0
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The biggest reason I hate iPods is exactly the same reason I bought one. They killed the market. A while back, when my ancient Iriver died, I needed a replacement. I wanted one with a big hard drive which could contain my music collection (80gb and growing), and nothing else. A while back, there would have been Iriver, Sony, Creative etc all making MP3 players which fitted my purposes (Archos are still producing good things, but they're almost all massive with a giant screen for watching films, I didn't want that). Now, they know that they can't compete with Apple's marketing on the high end stuff, so they end up crapping stuff like a touch screen onto yet another 8-16gb solid state thing and charging £150 for it, hoping to compete with the Nano or whatever. The only thing which even remotely met my needs was an iPod Classic, so I bought one. I still don't like the user interface, the touch wheel, the fact that I can't make it play through my collection properly, but it's the best available now, and that annoys me.0
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whyamihere wrote:but it's the best available now, and that annoys me.
That statement just does not compute!
I cannot believe you lug 80GB of music around! How much of your music collection do you actually listen to Chris?
Agreed that 8, 16 & 32MB capacities are a little sparse, but they should cope for most.
The manufacturers are moving away from rotating storage due to cost, reliability and battery life. It's a sign of the times.
Seriously the only decent portable music player interfaces out there are Apple, Sony, Creative and Philips
All the generic Far Eastern knock offs leave a lot to be desired in operational functionality and quality.
Lastly, the best thing about an iPod classic is that it can be repaired at home. There are a few companies that sell the disks, displays, batteries and tools needed to pry the darned things open. Result!0 -
whyamihere wrote:The biggest reason I hate iPods is exactly the same reason I bought one. They killed the market. A while back, when my ancient Iriver died, I needed a replacement. I wanted one with a big hard drive which could contain my music collection (80gb and growing), and nothing else. A while back, there would have been Iriver, Sony, Creative etc all making MP3 players which fitted my purposes (Archos are still producing good things, but they're almost all massive with a giant screen for watching films, I didn't want that). Now, they know that they can't compete with Apple's marketing on the high end stuff, so they end up crapping stuff like a touch screen onto yet another 8-16gb solid state thing and charging £150 for it, hoping to compete with the Nano or whatever. The only thing which even remotely met my needs was an iPod Classic, so I bought one. I still don't like the user interface, the touch wheel, the fact that I can't make it play through my collection properly, but it's the best available now, and that annoys me.
Absolutely exactly this, I liked my Creatve, but when it gave up the ghost after I dropped it onto something rocky, the only option was an iPod, which is frankly crap in comparison.
As for storage, I'm going on an 8 week trip soon, I want all my music, plus videos and pictures with me.
In summary, apple are teh gheyz and anyone who likes them is a fanboi. Anyone who's ever touched a windows computer is 1337 though.
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yeehaamcgee wrote:There has to be something that is justifiable to hate though, sheeps. Maybe the ignorance of the people who buy them, or the excessive media attention their sub-par products get, or the fact that better things are left in the dust because of all the hype they've generated?
Something in there must make sense.
Personally, I like to hate without reason, rationality, or limits. I hate because I am. I am the physical embodiment of hatred.
Reasoned hatred seems like a waste, when you can instead turn it up to 12, and have proper foaming at the mouth, irrational hatred.
This is exactly it. I don't hate the products, I hate the people. Apple markets their things as if you will die if you don#t have it, or for all the 14 year olds, you will be the outkast with no friends in school.
I hate the people who follow them as if they are brainwashed, not even considering other options, even if those options may be a more viable solution to their problem, or will do more things that they want. All they care about is the letter I in front of their phones name so that they will be the "cool one".
Don't get me wrong, apple make very good products, but the hype is too high, and it doesn't live up to the hype in quality. The products work, but the minute you break it your fucked in the ass if you brake a screen. My friend spent 600 on the new Ipad a few months ago, brought it home, was eating a bowl of pudding above it, dropped a spoon and cracked the screen. Apple turned him away for free repairs even though it was literally brand new because it was his fault. No it was the fault of the ipad for having a product that screen breaks if a fly farts near it. Every person i've spoken to has complained about apples service when it comes to repairs. It's basically if you break it you pay, the warranty in reality does nothing.0 -
i find it amusing that people hate, i mean literally and vehemently hate a product that they dont have to buy especially as there are plenty of alternatives on the market.
people are funny and i fucking hate them. 0 -
haha I don|t hate the Apple brand, they make fun products, but I will never buy one because you are paying for the brand, and not for quality.
Hate me for all I care, not my problemo lol0 -
I think we should all have the greatest respect for the apple marketing team. They have to have simply the best marketing in the world. Everyone harps on about how all they're products are overpriced and rubbish but the fact that they have sold in their millions show that the way the public perceive the products allows them to ignore the fact that they're wasting they're money.0
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whats wasted about money spent of apple products?0
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Now that is a bullshite statement. I'm also in the group of people who have an enormous music library, and the reason I have all tat music is because I enjoy it all.Raymondavalon wrote:That statement just does not compute!
I cannot believe you lug 80GB of music around! How much of your music collection do you actually listen to Chris?
I find it annoying only being able to fit a small subset of music on a player, I would much prefer to have the whole lot, then I am never left wishing I could listen to something else right now.
One of the best features I've ever seen on a music plaer was the old Sony ones, where it would throw up a few tracks at random, then depending on which ones you skipped, or listened to again and so on, it would narrow things down to your mood after about 5 tracks. It really was very good, and would get it right almost all the time.
It occasionally seemed to offer a random track occasionally, so if it decided you wanted a lot of heavy rock, it might try something a bit different, then if you skipped that again, it would contunue with the rock.
Very cool stuff. Itunes has a similar feature, the "genius" playlist, but in my experience it just does not work anywhere near as well as the old Sony players.0 -
I do have an irrational hatred of apple
There I-pod for instance, Is technically a good player, its solidly built if easy to scratch and its menu system is pretty good, the storage that can be got is great. But I-tunes is satans spwn and the most important thing for me in any music system sound quality well... actually in reveiws its averages thats it..
And thats what i hate about apple they make great looking, styled and functional products but when it comes down to its main function it's average but the price tag is extortionate, and there policy to get products cycling throught o new versions while semi abbanoning older stuff annoys me.
But people have the right to like anything they want, and they have the right to buy anything they want. And i have the right to watch and think hahaha what a waste of cash cos its my point of veiw 0 -
MountainMonster wrote:I don't hate the products, I hate the people.
Personally, I think you need;
a, a really large case of beer
b, a really big wank
That is all.0 -
yeehaamcgee wrote:Very cool stuff. Itunes has a similar feature, the "genius" playlist, but in my experience it just does not work anywhere near as well as the old Sony players.
Yep, Genius could be good, and could make up for the fact that creating a 'now playing' list is a PITA compared to Creative, but it gets confused and mixes up similarly named songs. And if I choose a song to base a Genius playlist on and that playlist contains 'Song X' (along with 24 others), if I choose Song X to base the genius playlist on, it just gives me the same playlist I was listening to, but in a different order. :?
If other people want to buy iPhones, I'm not really fussed, but I want what I've bought to work as it's supposed to!0 -
Bingo. If I'm on a train, and suddenly get the urge to listen to, for example, Static-X, I want to be able to do so. I don't listen to Static-X often, so if I had less space, they wouldn't be in the collection, but as I do sometimes listen to them, and I have the space available, they're in there. So, while I won't just sit there and listen to my entire music collection in a sitting, I will listen to the entire collection over the course of many months to a year.yeehaamcgee wrote:
Now that is a bullshite statement. I'm also in the group of people who have an enormous music library, and the reason I have all tat music is because I enjoy it all.Raymondavalon wrote:That statement just does not compute!
I cannot believe you lug 80GB of music around! How much of your music collection do you actually listen to Chris?
I find it annoying only being able to fit a small subset of music on a player, I would much prefer to have the whole lot, then I am never left wishing I could listen to something else right now.0 -
Apple can charge what they want becasue there is no competition that makes a product as good looking and functionally simple to use.
That goes with the whole range of Apple products
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The user interface on an iPod Classic is crap. The 'scroll wheel' which requires being touched by human skin is the worst bit. It means that if I'm wearing gloves, I have to take them off first. It means I can't select a new album through my pocket. The pause button's hidden away flat somewhere on the front of a flat device, meaning I actually have to look at the damn thing in order to pause it if someone starts talking to me. It can't cope with the idea of 'starting from here, play everything on the hard drive', it will just stop at the end of the current album/artist. It's a hateful, vile pile of crap, and I'm sorely tempted to rip my old Iriver to bits and make my own custom MP3 player.The Northern Monkey wrote:Apple can charge what they want becasue there is no competition that makes a product as good looking and functionally simple to use.
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Please do. Obviously it will be better than anything Apple can produce so you'd be a billionaire in a few week.whyamihere wrote:
The user interface on an iPod Classic is crap. The 'scroll wheel' which requires being touched by human skin is the worst bit. It means that if I'm wearing gloves, I have to take them off first. It means I can't select a new album through my pocket. The pause button's hidden away flat somewhere on the front of a flat device, meaning I actually have to look at the damn thing in order to pause it if someone starts talking to me. It can't cope with the idea of 'starting from here, play everything on the hard drive', it will just stop at the end of the current album/artist. It's a hateful, vile pile of crap, and I'm sorely tempted to rip my old Iriver to bits and make my own custom MP3 player.The Northern Monkey wrote:Apple can charge what they want becasue there is no competition that makes a product as good looking and functionally simple to use.
That goes with the whole range of Apple products0 -
It will be better for me, undoubtedly.
As I said a lot, lot earlier, my biggest problem with iPods is the lack of choice now. Previously, I didn't like them, but that was fine, there were other options which did do what I wanted. Now, there aren't, so I have to make some kind of compromise. I decided that I'd compromise on having a crap user interface rather than having to leave most of my music collection at home.
If I hack something together, it would be nowhere near as pretty as an iPod, and so the multitudinous cretins who consider form more important than function would, quite correctly, consider an iPod better for them. However, I couldn't care less about what it looks like as it will be in my pocket all the time, and would rather have something which works well. So yes, my device would be better, functionally. I'd make no money from it though, because it would look like crap.0 -
I'm again not totally but largely with WhyI on this,
Apple are polished products easy to use, with some limited functionality for ease of use, and average performance on the most. I prefer more techincally tougher to use items that provide more for my cash.
I believe apple has its place, it just shocks me how hard core and bombastic there user base is
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Buy an iPod Touch and stop pretending you need to carry 80gb+ of music around with you.0
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An excellent solution, bar a few problems.chedabob wrote:Buy an iPod Touch and stop pretending you need to carry 80gb+ of music around with you.
They cost even more.
They go even further from the idea of 'just play my music, that's it'.
Even harder to operate without getting it out and looking at it.
While I don't need all the music (I don't need any), I want all the music.
Is that really so difficult to comprehend? Would you like me to draw you a picture, as you appear to be struggling with the written word?0 -
I pod touch is horrible to use when out, for example, running. if a track comes on and i want to skip it, I can't just reach into my pocket and feel for the skip button, I have to take it out, look at it, press it then stick it back in my pocket.
Good for some things, arguably. But for what I most use a player for, completely useless.0 -
whyamihere wrote:Would you like me to draw you a picture, as you appear to be struggling with the written word?
Yes please.0 -
Thewaylander wrote:I believe apple has its place, it just shocks me how hard core and bombastic the anti-Apple fannies are.0
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*AL* wrote:Thewaylander wrote:I believe apple has its place, it just shocks me how hard core and bombastic the anti-Apple fannies are.
See? my point proved a very mature attempt at turning my comment i am impressed by the inteligence level of the humor and the amazing levels of originality used :P0 -
Quick and dirty:chedabob wrote:whyamihere wrote:Would you like me to draw you a picture, as you appear to be struggling with the written word?
Yes please.
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whyamihere wrote:
Quick and dirty:chedabob wrote:whyamihere wrote:Would you like me to draw you a picture, as you appear to be struggling with the written word?
Yes please.
Where did I say to buy an iPod Touch because it was pretty? Who's being the retard now...0 -
whyamihere wrote:
Quick and dirty:chedabob wrote:whyamihere wrote:Would you like me to draw you a picture, as you appear to be struggling with the written word?
Yes please.
Ok i think i just wee'd myself a little with laughter at that pic 0 -
well, truth be told, you didn't actually give ANY reason to actually buy one. You basically said to give up and just get one, if i''m not mistaken.
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