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Sprint Detraining??? Where's it gone?

mrc1mrc1 Posts: 852
Where has the thread gone?
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  • chrisw12chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    ?

    Disappointing, as it did have some sensible answers/questions.
  • PokerfacePokerface Posts: 7,960
    Probably moved into the "I'm full of censored " section of the forum.
  • redddraggonredddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Bhima probably felt a bit aggrieved because every one was poking holes in his BS and asked the mods to delete the thread.
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  • jibberjimjibberjim Posts: 2,810
    For me, not much of a sprinter but not absolutely awful (16w/kg at best ever) the most I ever lose no matter how tired I am, or how much focussed other work I do is around 1or 2 w/kg. At the end of a 5 day stage race with significant TSB, I could still hit close to the best numbers.

    So I do think anyone who showed massive drops is most likely simply not testing the shorter numbers, or had very unreliable results previously

    Sprint detraining to the tune discussed in the other thread in the timescale of the other thread were just completely unrealistic.
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  • PokerfacePokerface Posts: 7,960
    jibberjim wrote:
    For me, not much of a sprinter but not absolutely awful (16w/kg at best ever)


    That's nothing. My best sprint is 10w/kg!!
  • mrc1mrc1 Posts: 852
    I was enjoying the reading on that thread! It was down for my friday afternoon chuckle fest!

    Hes the only lightweight man I know that can go from weighing 58kg in October (see the winter training thread) to weighing 70kgs in summer despite his apparently huge volume of FTP training....
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  • BhimaBhima Posts: 2,145
    Thanks to everyone who contributed. I did learn a lot from the thread, though it was descending into nonsense. As I will no longer have an internet connection after mid-day today I asked for it to be removed. I will not have any means to defend myself against the negativity that was brewing up. These threads always end like that.

    I gave actual numbers there and I think people were being skeptical for the sake of being skeptical. I'm used to it. It seems to happen a lot on here, even though I was mentioning really low numbers in that particular thread.
  • softladsoftlad Posts: 3,513
    Bhima wrote:
    I think people were being skeptical for the sake of being skeptical. I'm used to it. It seems to happen a lot on here

    surely you can appreciate why...??
  • amaferangaamaferanga Posts: 6,789
    All you have to do is one race, just one race and if you're as good as you make out you are then you'll breeze it. Then folk would stop questioning you. Simple.
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  • jibberjimjibberjim Posts: 2,810
    Pokerface wrote:
    jibberjim wrote:
    For me, not much of a sprinter but not absolutely awful (16w/kg at best ever)

    That's nothing. My best sprint is 10w/kg!!

    Yeah, but I have a bit of an advantage over you!
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  • chrisw12chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    Bhima wrote:
    Thanks to everyone who contributed. I did learn a lot from the thread, though it was descending into nonsense. As I will no longer have an internet connection after mid-day today I asked for it to be removed. I will not have any means to defend myself against the negativity that was brewing up. These threads always end like that.

    I gave actual numbers there and I think people were being skeptical for the sake of being skeptical. I'm used to it. It seems to happen a lot on here, even though I was mentioning really low numbers in that particular thread.

    I thought your diistribution numbers were quite reasonable tbh. It seems you may have worked harder to get the headline figures that everyone seems to want to talk about (1s 1hour) but I wasn't being sceptical. I was being curious as to where you and other people find places to do proper one hour tests in this over crowded country we live in.(outside of doing proper tt's of course)
  • drewfromriscadrewfromrisca Posts: 1,165
    What's that creepy looking brother/sister band called that were around few years back? Looked like hippy's? They remind me of some of bhima's number :lol:
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  • chrisw12chrisw12 Posts: 1,246
    amaferanga wrote:
    All you have to do is one race, just one race and if you're as good as you make out you are then you'll breeze it. Then folk would stop questioning you. Simple.

    and that's the point. There are a few testers on here that I am familiar with that have produced some absolutely fabulous RACE results. When they post figures they are absolutely believable, but when some Joe comes along and starts saying about their 22mph training ride or their hundred in 4 hours or their ftp north of 350, you really have to wonder why they're not racing to back these figures up.
  • PokerfacePokerface Posts: 7,960
    All I can say is - if you had a 1400w sprint on you, then you should be racing for a Pro team. Even if it's a UK team.


    Unless 1400w and 21w/kg isn't a lot.
  • PokerfacePokerface Posts: 7,960
    It's a shame that your internet connection runs out at noon today Bhima - otherwise maybe you could post up some PowerTap or SRM files (as you now have both) to support your questions. That would end the discussion rather quickly (one way or the other....)
  • Pokerface wrote:
    All I can say is - if you had a 1400w sprint on you, then you should be racing for a Pro team. Even if it's a UK team.


    Unless 1400w and 21w/kg isn't a lot.
    It would enable you to become a highly competitive masters age track sprinter, provided you knew how to ride sprints.
  • bobtbuilderbobtbuilder Posts: 1,537
    I've never understood Bhima's obsession with numbers when they are not going towards any end result.
  • a_n_ta_n_t Posts: 2,011
    amaferanga wrote:
    All you have to do is one race, just one race and if you're as good as you make out you are then you'll breeze it. Then folk would stop questioning you. Simple.

    Exactly. I've been telling him for nigh on 2 seasons to get to a wheelers 10 to prove everyone wrong and he's never made it. Oh, I tell a lie, he made one but was too late to sign on, convenient? When you're spouting guff like 5W/Kg/hour http://www.facebook.com/50kph then why wouldn't you race?
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  • a_n_ta_n_t Posts: 2,011
    a_n_t wrote:
    5W/Kg/hour

    Which is 350W for his reported 70Kg :roll:
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  • freehubfreehub Posts: 4,257
    I'm gonna try some sprint training today.

    3 mins rest interval with an all out 30 second sprint and I'm going to do 10 reps, it might not be the best must be better sprint training than sitting at 21mph for 60 miles.

    Bhima, no one would have a go at you if you proved yourself, like did a TT, and some of the races, don't say that it's impossible for you to make every race because I am 100% sure you could make one, or a TT.

    No one believes anything in this world without real hard evidence. Stuff on the interwebs can count as evidence, like a Garmin log, they can't be fiddled with.
  • PokerfacePokerface Posts: 7,960
    I thought Bhima said he had done loads of races 'down south'.

    No race results posted anywhere though/
  • PokerfacePokerface Posts: 7,960
    I saw Bhima on the Cat and Fiddle today - going in the opposite direction.


    Decked out in full British Team kit :roll: :roll:
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