Tour de France Stage 13 *SPOILER*
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Moray Gub wrote:Arkibal wrote:smithy21 wrote:Vino- pretty hard to like imo.
I half expect him to take off solo tomorrow across the whole stage in a HGH, blood transfused frenzy and take yellow.
I think the opposite, he is very hard NOT to like because of his do or die attacks, no matter how juiced he is/was.
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So as long a rider is aggresive he can be doped up to the eyeballs and its alright with you :roll: unless he is American of course well thats different..........
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can't believe there were times when I actually agreed with you...
How times change.
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It's not like Vino spent all day today in the break. He just managed to gap the field right at the end. I might be a little more suspicious if he had gone with the main break today.
Look at Chavanel - he's won two stages and been in several breaks and no one is pointing the doping finger at him....0 -
Pokerface wrote:It's not like Vino spent all day today in the break. He just managed to gap the field right at the end. I might be a little more suspicious if he had gone with the main break today.
Look at Chavanel - he's won two stages and been in several breaks and no one is pointing the doping finger at him....
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Interesting to see the last finishers.
162 Jérémy Roy (Fra) Française des Jeux 0:07:23
163 Amaël Moinard (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne
164 Maxim Iglinskiy (Kaz) Astana
165 Dmitriy Muravyev (Kaz) Team Radioshack
166 Manuel Quinziato (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo
167 Alan Perez Lezaun (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi
168 Iban Mayoz Echeverria (Spa) Footon-Servetto
169 Marcus Burghardt (Ger) BMC Racing Team 0:09:43
170 Tony Martin (Ger) Team HTC - Columbia
171 David Millar (GBr) Garmin - Transitions
172 Daniel Navarro Garcia (Spa) Astana 0:12:18
173 David De La Fuente Rasilla (Spa) Astana
174 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez (Spa) Astana
175 Christophe Kern (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne
Looks like one team has got the right idea with their domestiques for tomorrow. I expect Navarro to blow everyone away again tomorrow.
And in case anyone doubted.
Sirotti
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sherer wrote:
Watching the highlights now it looks like its maybe a journo or something.. Still deffo worth a squirt
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iainf72 wrote:Moray Gub wrote:
Look what happened that last time he had two strong days in the TDF,both him and Bertie have been quite strong after the rest day.....................
[Moray Gub /ON] Oh my god, you mean a TdFfavourite is riding strongly! Call WADA, call the AFLD [Moray Gub /OFF]
He blew his cover tonight, big time.
He's either a wind up merchant or a total fanboy.
He could even be a sockpuppet of old Frenchie. :P
To coin his best mucker's favourite phrase: "No credibilty, anymore""Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
I used to like Vino before his ban due to his aggression etc and then lost all respect for him. However, since his return I really like him again. He adds excitement to the race and I read a really good interview from him after his Liege win which I felt he came across well in. I was certainly cheering him on to win today...
It's funny how someone like Basso doesn't develop the same level of vitriol that Vino does [amongst forums and the press- Harmon as the prime example]...VO2 Max - 79 ml/kg/min
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On ITV4 they were previewing tomorrows stage and saying that Schleck had an advantage because his team is stronger in the mountains, and that Contador will have to hope its just the team leaders left at the end?!
If anything, we have seen that Astana have more than enough firepower to help Contador in the mountains, far more so than Andy has without Frank.0 -
Rokkala wrote:On ITV4 they were previewing tomorrows stage and saying that Schleck had an advantage because his team is stronger in the mountains, and that Contador will have to hope its just the team leaders left at the end?!
If anything, we have seen that Astana have more than enough firepower to help Contador in the mountains, far more so than Andy has without Frank.
I think he meant on the flatter part of the course and the approach to the final climbs"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
good itv4 podcast on this stage I thought..."If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0
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frenchfighter wrote:Interesting to see the last finishers.
162 Jérémy Roy (Fra) Française des Jeux 0:07:23
163 Amaël Moinard (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne
164 Maxim Iglinskiy (Kaz) Astana
165 Dmitriy Muravyev (Kaz) Team Radioshack
166 Manuel Quinziato (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo
167 Alan Perez Lezaun (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi
168 Iban Mayoz Echeverria (Spa) Footon-Servetto
169 Marcus Burghardt (Ger) BMC Racing Team 0:09:43
170 Tony Martin (Ger) Team HTC - Columbia
171 David Millar (GBr) Garmin - Transitions
172 Daniel Navarro Garcia (Spa) Astana 0:12:18
173 David De La Fuente Rasilla (Spa) Astana
174 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez (Spa) Astana
175 Christophe Kern (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne
Looks like one team has got the right idea with their domestiques for tomorrow. I expect Navarro to blow everyone away again tomorrow.
And in case anyone doubted.
Sirotti
Probably more to do with the fact Fernandez crashed and others waited for him.0 -
Blazing Saddles wrote:iainf72 wrote:Moray Gub wrote:
Look what happened that last time he had two strong days in the TDF,both him and Bertie have been quite strong after the rest day.....................
[Moray Gub /ON] Oh my god, you mean a TdFfavourite is riding strongly! Call WADA, call the AFLD [Moray Gub /OFF]
He blew his cover tonight, big time.
He's either a wind up merchant or a total fanboy.
He could even be a sockpuppet of old Frenchie. :P
To coin his best mucker's favourite phrase: "No credibilty, anymore"
Coming from you thats a bit rich.....................Gasping - but somehow still alive !0 -
Arkibal wrote:Moray Gub wrote:Arkibal wrote:smithy21 wrote:Vino- pretty hard to like imo.
I half expect him to take off solo tomorrow across the whole stage in a HGH, blood transfused frenzy and take yellow.
I think the opposite, he is very hard NOT to like because of his do or die attacks, no matter how juiced he is/was.
.
So as long a rider is aggresive he can be doped up to the eyeballs and its alright with you :roll: unless he is American of course well thats different..........
:roll:
can't believe there were times when I actually agreed with you...
How times change.
Thats where you and me differ, you think becuase a rider is in the same team as Bertie/Spanish he is clean . (delete as applicable)Gasping - but somehow still alive !0 -
frenchfighter wrote:Interesting to see the last finishers.
162 Jérémy Roy (Fra) Française des Jeux 0:07:23
163 Amaël Moinard (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne
164 Maxim Iglinskiy (Kaz) Astana
165 Dmitriy Muravyev (Kaz) Team Radioshack
166 Manuel Quinziato (Ita) Liquigas-Doimo
167 Alan Perez Lezaun (Spa) Euskaltel - Euskadi
168 Iban Mayoz Echeverria (Spa) Footon-Servetto
169 Marcus Burghardt (Ger) BMC Racing Team 0:09:43
170 Tony Martin (Ger) Team HTC - Columbia
171 David Millar (GBr) Garmin - Transitions
172 Daniel Navarro Garcia (Spa) Astana 0:12:18
173 David De La Fuente Rasilla (Spa) Astana
174 Jesus Hernandez Blazquez (Spa) Astana
175 Christophe Kern (Fra) Cofidis, Le Credit en Ligne
Looks like one team has got the right idea with their domestiques for tomorrow. I expect Navarro to blow everyone away again tomorrow.
And in case anyone doubted.
Sirotti
:roll: For the cameras mate0 -
I am astounded that Vino puts in a mirror performance of when he got himself banned from the Tour and some people here think he is not on the Juice again. :shock:
As far as a decent guy; I read in (Procycling or Cyclesport) that Vino is a bit of a cock. When on for Telecom he was not a popular chap. The Magazine pointed out that on a particular Mountain stage in one of the Tours; Vino attacked, Mr Ullrich bridged the gap back to close him down. I remember that precise moment, as I thought it was conformation that Ullrich was a bit dull in the head, but no; it was a clear sign of internal strife.
I know that most of them are on drugs, which are untraceable, and gives the appearance of them riding clean but please let's not have Vino taking the p1ss and get himself thrown off again.
They do say that the magic 50% limit for the blood values is the maximum limit for the riders before they are told to go and rest but if anyone normal had these results in a Hospital Test then we would be under severe scrutiny as there must be something major wrong them. So even these Haemocrit limits is letting the riders have higher limits than what is considered normal.
I know someone who said they know Jez Hunt. This chap said that doping is not in Jez's style and Jez is presently in 161st place. Local boy Dan Lloyd is in 157th so lets hope he isn't too. I think if anyone is riding clean then this is where they are likely to be; at the back end, hanging on.
The truth is that Juniors, Espoirs, lower Division Teams have been caught for doping so lets not get ahead of ourselves here.
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