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I always think that Frank Schleck bike handling was hugely suspect; wasn't suprised at all about his fall.
To be honest, no one is putting a gun against thier heads to ride this event or to be a bike rider. A lot of riders risk thier lives with doping; it's up to the riders. They can give up racing and get by like the rest of us.
-jerry“Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving”- Albert Einstein
"You can't ride the Tour de France on mineral water."
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Steven Cozza on Twitter wrote:There you go TDF organizers. The TDF G.C. Is all screwed up now because of putting Roubaixs cobbles in the race. (cont) http://tl.gd/2ba98m
I don't get how the GC is screwed up? Isn't the GC all about getting around the course in the fastest time? Why does the GC always have to rely on the Mountains and TTs?
The Strade Bianche in the Giro definitely didn't do the "race", and neither did yesterday's stage of the TdF.0 -
redddraggon wrote:
The Strade Bianche in the Giro definitely didn't do the "race", and neither did yesterday's stage of the TdF.
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Sundays stage will probably be way more significant.
Amusing that on the Strade Bianchi St Ivan lost 2:25 on Cadel (incl time bonus) Yesterday he lost 2:25. Forget Paul the Octopus, that's an omen.Fckin' Quintana … that creep can roll, man.0 -
Why is hi whining? Forgive me if I'm wrong but haven't they known about the route for six months before the start? Haven't they done team/individual recce of the route? Haven't most of the tems been out training on the cobbles before the start of the tour?0
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It's not like any of the GC contenders are out of the running already, certainly no more so than this time last year after the Team Time Trial. Last year Evans could have whinged about that (which favoured his rivals through no fault of his own, just the weakness of his team), this year he's risen to the top of those contenders by being better over the cobbles.0
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Let's see Saxo has two winners of Roubaix (O'Grady,Cancellara) and a winner of Flanders (Cancellara) so it's not like they are novices to this. Perhaps they should stop any fast descending because someone may crash (oh, that's right Jens, you did last year on a relatively smooth road - so were your team 'incensed'?).M.Rushton0
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The race shouldn't JUST be about mountains and TTs, it should also reward riders who are the most skillful and intelligent too. By this I mean using the correct tactics and choice of equpiment. Many people failed in both yesterday.
While I respect Jens' experience as a cyclist, he should know that It's the biggest road race in the world and so should have a winner capable of racing a bike over a large range of roads (within reason) to reflect this.
That's how the Tour used to be in the early years in its purest form and recently it's slowly been evolving into a mathematical equation where the winner can almost be predicted using power/weight ratios, blood values and wind tunnels.
I'm all for exciting shake-ups such as pave sections.0 -
Bhima wrote:The race shouldn't JUST be about mountains and TTs, it should also reward riders who are the most skillful and intelligent too. By this I mean using the correct tactics and choice of equpiment. Many people failed in both yesterday.
How ever in reality only one person really suffered, and that was Frank Schleck. Other people lost a little time, but nothing disastrous.0 -
Would it have made any difference if 'non-classics' riders had enterered this years P-R? Training is no preparation for the real thing, just a thought.All Road/ Gravel: tbcWinter: tbcMTB: tbcRoad: tbc"Look at the time...." "he's fallen like an old lady on a cruise ship..."0
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Voight = Huge whiny baby. Discuss.+++++++++++++++++++++
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Panama - finally putting a nail in the economic theory of the trickle down effect.0 -
Tour Femminine! LMFAO! What a bunch of girls... is it the organisers fault that Frank Spencer... errr I mean Schleck is an accident prone nancy-boy who couldn't ride a bike fitted with stabilisers without falling off?! For fooks sake I wish they'd just man-up and get on with it instead of whinging like a bunch of girls! Racing is racing... the tougher they make it the better if you ask me. They should try riding some of the crappy car dominated roads we get in this country...let all your saddles be comfy and all your rides less bumpy....0
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redddraggon wrote:Bhima wrote:The race shouldn't JUST be about mountains and TTs, it should also reward riders who are the most skillful and intelligent too. By this I mean using the correct tactics and choice of equpiment. Many people failed in both yesterday.
How ever in reality only one person really suffered, and that was Frank Schleck. Other people lost a little time, but nothing disastrous.
Yeah thats what i was thinking, its not like people were falling right, left and centre. Maybe he should have spent more time reccying the cobbles.0 -
Couple of points
1. The GC can't be screwed up. Its not possible. Its a simple measure of who completed the course the quickest. Nobody has a divine right to be near the top. If there are riders up there who wouldn't usually be, good. It makes it harder for the big teams to control the race.
2. Did Contador bitch and moan about the pave'? No, he got on the phone to Peter Van Petegam and learned how to ride it quickly and safely.
3. How can you complain when your team has yellow and your main GC contender gained a minute on his rivals?"In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Looking at the video, it seems Frank Shleck goes down by himself. A real shame he's out of the race but he wasn't taken down by a freak event, it looks like a handling error. Clearly Voigt is going to be upset but these things happen, contenders always drop out.0
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So, it would OK if half a dozen riders broke CBs right? That seems to be your logic, here.
Where was all the whining when Josebo Beloki ended his contender career, on a descent in 2003?
That was due to heat.
If they can only race on flat surfaces, neutralise wet stages and generally complain, they might as well move the TDF depart and arrive to PC World.
Oh and the GC is wide open. Only Frank is completely out of the picture."Science is a tool for cheaters". An anonymous French PE teacher.0 -
What a twat0
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Vandevelde is out too. Not just frank.0
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He also complained about the stage previously. Maybe he is just getting a little old and less hardcore or maybe he is just had his opinion taken when he was still upset at seeing Frank lying like that.
Anyone know if Frank was first to crash?Contador is the Greatest0 -
disgruntledgoat wrote:Couple of points
1. The GC can't be screwed up. Its not possible. Its a simple measure of who completed the course the quickest. Nobody has a divine right to be near the top. If there are riders up there who wouldn't usually be, good. It makes it harder for the big teams to control the race.
2. Did Contador ***** and moan about the pave'? No, he got on the phone to Peter Van Petegam and learned how to ride it quickly and safely.
3. How can you complain when your team has yellow and your main GC contender gained a minute on his rivals?
Wasn't someone on here mortally offended by Arroyo getting into pink due to his presence in the huge break in the Giro?Le Blaireau (1)0 -
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David De Lay went down before the race got to the Pave. He abandoned. Wegelius ended up in a hedge as the race went down what looked like a cyclepath. He was ok."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
@gietvangent0 -
Team Banana Spokesman wrote:Vandevelde is out too. Not just frank.
Vandevelde didn't even start Stage 3 so you can't blame the cobbles.Blazing Saddles wrote:So, it would OK if half a dozen riders broke CBs right? That seems to be your logic, here.
Of course if the route is unnecessarily unsafe that's not OK. But Yesterday was a thoroughly watered down version of Paris-Roubaix. It's not like they were racing on the descent of the Plan de Corones is it? Frank fell off and broke his collarbone or shoulder, but then he's just a ticking timebomb of when he's going to fall off and not a general indicator of a safe course.0 -
symo wrote:Voight = Huge whiny baby. Discuss.
Nothing to discuss, just 'Yes'
Man alive, professional riders and they can't even control a bike over a mildly lumpy road surface.
Blaming the cobbles is meaningless after seeing what Ashton could do on a road bike in his recent promo vid for BikeRadar Live :-)
What are they expecting, a perfectly flat and level road with no turns or deviations, carefully hoovered each day before they daintily tip-toe along it?
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i noticed on the tv shots that franks bike (you can see it in the photo above being held by an old guy next to the cameraman) had a saddle bag on it.??? Possible batteries?
cant see it in any photos but the video footage shows a huge bag there.
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Pork Sword wrote:Tour Femminine! LMFAO! What a bunch of girls... is it the organisers fault that Frank Spencer... errr I mean Schleck is an accident prone nancy-boy who couldn't ride a bike fitted with stabilisers without falling off?! For fooks sake I wish they'd just man-up and get on with it instead of whinging like a bunch of girls!
Do the girls whinge?blog: bellevedere0 -
Here's a video of Jen's anger post race: http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid28343239001?bctid=1095101110010
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LittleB0b wrote:Pork Sword wrote:Tour Femminine! LMFAO! What a bunch of girls... is it the organisers fault that Frank Spencer... errr I mean Schleck is an accident prone nancy-boy who couldn't ride a bike fitted with stabilisers without falling off?! For fooks sake I wish they'd just man-up and get on with it instead of whinging like a bunch of girls!
Do the girls whinge?
Haven't met a girl yet who couldn't whinge for England... but perhaps that's just the effect I have on them?! 8)let all your saddles be comfy and all your rides less bumpy....0 -
so none of saxobank will be riding the cobbled clissics next spring then.0
