England vs. Algeria

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  • dreamlx10
    dreamlx10 Posts: 235
    Only thing that makes the Premiership the best league in the world.... is all the foreign players in it!

    Exactly ! Maybe people will realise that now and stop signing average foreigners.
  • finchy
    finchy Posts: 6,686
    When are people going to stop just looking for a manager or player as a scapegoat and realise that we need to have better skills development for youngsters?
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    I'm disappointed in Algeria, they could have won this.
  • Airwave
    Airwave Posts: 483
    Pokerface wrote:
    I wonder if the English people will now start to realize their team is average at best. Always has been. Probably always will be.

    Only thing that makes the Premiership the best league in the world.... is all the foreign players in it!

    Come off it,don't you watch the premiership?.Those players last night could'nt control the ball or pas or cross.If they played that badly for their club teams they would'nt get a game as you could bring in MORE foreign players for half the money.So they obviously can play at a high standard or at least better than that dross last night.By the way i did'nt think they'd even make the semis at the start.I think a lot of England fans are realistic in realising we're a good way off the best.The Italia 90 team were a level above the current team but even they fell short
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  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    antfly wrote:
    fast as fupp wrote:
    vive l'algerie!!!
    Why would you say that?

    because i didn't want 'team england' to win!
    'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    It`s just England, not "Team England".
    Pokerface wrote:
    I wonder if the English people will now start to realize their team is average at best. Always has been. Probably always will be.

    Only thing that makes the Premiership the best league in the world.... is all the foreign players in it!

    What nationality are you then?
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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    antfly wrote:
    It`s just England, not "Team England".
    Pokerface wrote:
    I wonder if the English people will now start to realize their team is average at best. Always has been. Probably always will be.

    Only thing that makes the Premiership the best league in the world.... is all the foreign players in it!

    What nationality are you then?

    That's a tough question. Born in Singapore to British and Irish parents. Raised in Canada and live in the UK. But ride for the Irish National Team. I cheer for Canadian hockey, Irish cycling and English football.

    I would love to see England win the world cup as much as the next guy. But they really are just an average team. Yes, they play better for their clubs - but they are usually being fed the ball and are surrounded by foreign players. It's the players AROUND you that make you a better player. You can't do it all on your own.
  • cedar404
    cedar404 Posts: 176
    Last night was not that much of a surprise really. After all the vast majority of the side are perennial losers who would not get anywhere near a place in the top 10 European club sides - James, Johnson, Carragher, Barry, Lennon, Gerrard, Heskey, Wright Phillips, Crouch and Defoe.
  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    antfly wrote:
    It`s just England, not "Team England".
    Pokerface wrote:
    I wonder if the English people will now start to realize their team is average at best. Always has been. Probably always will be.

    Only thing that makes the Premiership the best league in the world.... is all the foreign players in it!

    What nationality are you then?

    british- thats what it says on my passport- but not 'english'
    'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    Pokerface wrote:
    antfly wrote:
    It`s just England, not "Team England".
    Pokerface wrote:
    I wonder if the English people will now start to realize their team is average at best. Always has been. Probably always will be.

    Only thing that makes the Premiership the best league in the world.... is all the foreign players in it!

    What nationality are you then?

    That's a tough question. Born in Singapore to British and Irish parents. Raised in Canada and live in the UK. But ride for the Irish National Team. I cheer for Canadian hockey, Irish cycling and English football.

    I would love to see England win the world cup as much as the next guy. But they really are just an average team. Yes, they play better for their clubs - but they are usually being fed the ball and are surrounded by foreign players. It's the players AROUND you that make you a better player. You can't do it all on your own.

    You`re quite cosmopolitan really. Respect due for riding for an international team, I bet there aren`t many on here who can say they do that.
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  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    antfly wrote:
    You`re quite cosmopolitan really. Respect due for riding for an international team, I bet there aren`t many on here who can say they do that.


    Before you get too excited - it's the Paralympic squad (I am missing a leg). But a National Team nonetheless. Off to the World Championships in a few months!


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  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    edited June 2010
    Oh, right. Good luck with that.
    I know it`s none of my business but what happened to your leg, if you don`t mind my asking? .
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  • rapid_uphill
    rapid_uphill Posts: 841
    Gerrard would get in any team, hes world class. John Terry on the other hand is only good at shagging.
    cedar404 wrote:
    Last night was not that much of a surprise really. After all the vast majority of the side are perennial losers who would not get anywhere near a place in the top 10 European club sides - James, Johnson, Carragher, Barry, Lennon, Gerrard, Heskey, Wright Phillips, Crouch and Defoe.
  • AndyD2574
    AndyD2574 Posts: 1,034
    I'm english and I think england are total PISH!!

    Overpaid divers!!

    No passion!

    Total comedy Rooney whining about the booing....................WTF does he expect!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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  • deptfordmarmoset
    deptfordmarmoset Posts: 3,118
    Me mum's just offered to sew me a black armband :cry:
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  • squired
    squired Posts: 1,153
    England already won the World Cup this year.... the T20 Cricket World Cup!

    Sadly the England football team always underperforms. For a country where football is so far ahead as the number one sport it is very sad. All of the best athletes go into football. They earn too much money too quickly and waste the talent they have. Football is one of the few sports where your career can essentially be a failure, but where you retire a millionaire.

    I'm sure some will complain about the pressure on the players or something like that, but these guys are used to big match pressure. Anyway, if they can't handle the pressure of group games against inferior sides, how will they cope against one of the top teams?
  • Aggieboy
    Aggieboy Posts: 3,996
    Pokerface wrote:
    antfly wrote:
    You`re quite cosmopolitan really. Respect due for riding for an international team, I bet there aren`t many on here who can say they do that.


    Before you get too excited - it's the Paralympic squad (I am missing a leg). But a National Team nonetheless. Off to the World Championships in a few months!


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  • proto
    proto Posts: 1,483
    There must be an argument, surely, for making all Premiership squad players ineligible for the national team. Find some hungry players on the way up who would play out of their skins rather than some bloated, overpaid, egotistical posers (Wayne Rooney excepted on all counts apart from overpaid) and let them loose.

    The skill difference between best and almost best is minimal, but the attitude, passion and hunger can be worlds apart.
  • Pokerface
    Pokerface Posts: 7,960
    antfly wrote:
    Oh, right. Good luck with that.
    I know it`s none of my business but what happened to your leg, if you don`t mind my asking? .


    Shark attack. 8)



















    Actually - it was a rugby injury that went wrong. Broken foot, nerve damage, infection, etc, etc. No big deal really. Could happen to anyone. :oops:
  • fast as fupp
    fast as fupp Posts: 2,277
    rapid_uphill wrote:
    Gerrard would get in any team, hes world class. John Terry on the other hand is only good at shagging.
    cedar404 wrote:
    Last night was not that much of a surprise really. After all the vast majority of the side are perennial losers who would not get anywhere near a place in the top 10 European club sides - James, Johnson, Carragher, Barry, Lennon, Gerrard, Heskey, Wright Phillips, Crouch and Defoe.

    world class? boxing?
    'dont forget lads, one evertonian is worth twenty kopites'
  • Roscobob
    Roscobob Posts: 344
    England were never going to compete at the World Cup. They're not good enough. And before anyone jumps on the bandwagon and asks when Scotlands first game is, I know we aren't there and you are.

    The whole of Britain has a problem producing technically gifted players. Heart, yes. Athletic, yes. Fit, yes. When it comes to passing, touch, tactics, awareness etc we are torture!

    England have 3 world class players IMO. Rooney, Gerrard and Lampard and this could be Lampard and possibly even Gerrards last World Cup.

    Where is the new talent coming from? It's fecking depressing.
  • Le Commentateur
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    Photographed yesterday morning... obviously an omen!
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  • pottssteve
    pottssteve Posts: 4,069
    Is there some football on?
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  • Stewie Griffin
    Stewie Griffin Posts: 4,330
    pottssteve wrote:
    Is there some football on?

    Just a pre-season tournament before the proper football starts mid August :lol:

    Knew England were never going to win but didn't expect us to be so poor.

    Pokerface, chapeau lad. Best of luck mate, keep us informed. Although starting a thread with I'm world champ might sound big headed :wink:
  • petejuk
    petejuk Posts: 235
    proto wrote:
    There must be an argument, surely, for making all Premiership squad players ineligible for the national team. Find some hungry players on the way up who would play out of their skins rather than some bloated, overpaid, egotistical posers (Wayne Rooney excepted on all counts apart from overpaid) and let them loose.

    The skill difference between best and almost best is minimal, but the attitude, passion and hunger can be worlds apart.

    +1. The lack of drive and ambition, as well as the complete inability to perform as a team was painful to watch. The whole England 'expects' thing might be detrimental but think that we should expect more considering the amount the players are paid.
  • Airwave
    Airwave Posts: 483
    We took Croatia apart,twice playing some very good football.I think the croates are slightly better than Algeria as well as quiet a few teams at the world cup&the only reason they're not at the world cup is we were better.We have decent players but whether they're mentaly strong well that's debatable.It's almost like stagefright.Spain have had the same problem for years&years.Brilliant players,fantastic in qualifying but freeze at the big tournaments up until 2yrs ago

    I think Messi would be fantastic playing down the park on sunday just as i would look crap playing in the premiership no matter who was playing beside me.So the argument that the foreigners make the England players good is load of b**ll*cks
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  • ademort
    ademort Posts: 1,924
    I promised my Dutch colleagues this morning that if England win the world cup i will cycle to work on the following Monday morning naked except for cycling shoes. We were awful yesterday, the worst performance i can ever remember seeing. I feel sorry for the fans who paid a lot of money to see there team perform so poorly.
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,436
    Gerrard was interviewed post match

    "This was their world cup final"

    Arrogance like that is part of the problem.
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    Feel free to rib me if you are celtic. I just don't care anymore!!!

    I normally would, but that performance was so bad I actually feel sorry for England fans

    Slovenia won't be easy to beat (remember they qualified at the expense of Czech Republic, Poland, Northern Ireland and Russia). However I think you will beat them and top the group, then if Germany win their group you'll avoid them in the last 16 and have an 'easy' path to the semi against Brazil.
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  • Frank the tank
    Frank the tank Posts: 6,553
    Slovenia only need a draw out of the last group game so theoretically just get men behind the ball and play a counter-attacking game. England need the win, but on the last two outings they've looked totally clueless.

    I'd remind them of this the next time their respective agents are negotiating a multi-million pound contract.
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  • rapid_uphill
    rapid_uphill Posts: 841
    Maybe they should drop the 4 4 2 formation.

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