Tameside Crits in Ashton.
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freehub wrote:
Not relevant in a bunch on the flat...0 -
Exactly..... so get your bum down to Ashton and duel it out with Mr Hub....0
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NapoleonD wrote:freehub wrote:
Not relevant in a bunch on the flat...
It is relevant for acceleration though, it was some damn fast acceleration.0 -
Oh dear.
Well today was a let down.
I had the worst back pain I've ever had, I could hardly move my back, so ended up pulling out, it was agony, dunno what the hell is up.
I got lapped by the main bunch, my fate was probably decided from the start, I was at the back, and as soon as we started I could see a break forming already. Problem is, in the middle was slow riders, and it was hard to get by, and then when we get to the tight corner, they're away.
So it was me and another wheelers for quite abit taking turns on the front, and I was going well apart (legs), I also had pretty bad stomach cramp, but yes, I cannot use this as an excuse.
The E/1/2 caught up with us, I thought great, let's hang on to these, felt ok, but then someone in front got tired out, and I could not get around, so that idea was gone since that group pulled away.
Tbh as soon as I seen that I got lapped and with the agony I was in with my back I thought screw it so I just rode onto the grass.
We averaged 24.7mph, so despite doing worse than both times, I actually did more work, and got more of a workout.
When I go home I'm gonna go do this race in Doncaster hopefully, I reckon I'd do better on a course on the road, as there is rarely corners as tight as the one on the Tameside circuit, and I suck at corners.
At least I never fell off.0 -
freehub wrote:Oh dear.
Well today was a let down.
I had the worst back pain I've ever had, I could hardly move my back, so ended up pulling out, it was agony, dunno what the hell is up.
I got lapped by the main bunch, my fate was probably decided from the start, I was at the back, and as soon as we started I could see a break forming already. Problem is, in the middle was slow riders, and it was hard to get by, and then when we get to the tight corner, they're away.
So it was me and another wheelers for quite abit taking turns on the front, and I was going well apart (legs), I also had pretty bad stomach cramp, but yes, I cannot use this as an excuse.
The E/1/2 caught up with us, I thought great, let's hang on to these, felt ok, but then someone in front got tired out, and I could not get around, so that idea was gone since that group pulled away.
Tbh as soon as I seen that I got lapped and with the agony I was in with my back I thought screw it so I just rode onto the grass.
We averaged 24.7mph, so despite doing worse than both times, I actually did more work, and got more of a workout.
When I go home I'm gonna go do this race in Doncaster hopefully, I reckon I'd do better on a course on the road, as there is rarely corners as tight as the one on the Tameside circuit, and I suck at corners.
At least I never fell off.
And at least you are there doing it!0 -
With regard to stomach cramp though, may I present you with a possible cause?
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How would that cause stomach cramp? I had that like 8 hours before the race, and had food on top, I reckon I might have drank too much water.
Microwaved Mars Bars taste lovely and do nothing bad to my stomach, I've had em millions of times.
I just got in, had a Snickers, then went for a shower, gonna have some Beef stew now with some Tesco Value brown bread.
I'm not happy being a failure, I need to change my training.0 -
freehub wrote:How would that cause stomach cramp? I had that like 8 hours before the race, and had food on top, I reckon I might have drank too much water.
Microwaved Mars Bars taste lovely and do nothing bad to my stomach, I've had em millions of times.
I just got in, had a Snickers, then went for a shower, gonna have some Beef stew now with some Tesco Value brown bread.
I'm not happy being a failure, I need to change my training.
'Twas just a joke :? It was more the appearance than the content!0 -
My bike position is totally cack, I have to admit, Dan was correct, my frame is too big, I'm probably loosing loads of power with this crap position.
I'll miss this CAAD9 but I'm going to have to consider letting it go
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How is your bike too big if you have your stem flipped and some spacers? Is it too long?0
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Changing your diet would be a good startfreehub wrote:I'm not happy being a failure, I need to change my training.0 -
Well you did say you got in and had a Snickers and most of the food you mention is junk. I'm not lecturing you as I'm not the world's best for healthy eating but it really may be that you would benefit from some changes to your diet. Then again it may be that you eat well and the crappy food you write about on here is just the occassional treat :?0
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Pross wrote:Well you did say you got in and had a Snickers and most of the food you mention is junk. I'm not lecturing you as I'm not the world's best for healthy eating but it really may be that you would benefit from some changes to your diet. Then again it may be that you eat well and the crappy food you write about on here is just the occassional treat :?
People assume one mars bar = lots, but one = 1.
I ate a snickers because it was an ok thing to eat after my ride.
Omelettes, pasta bake, jacket potato, beef stew are not junk food.
On a long bike ride I will eat between 1 and 2 mars bars that have sufficient nutrients in to keep me going.
I rarely eat a mars bar when I'm not riding, I very rarely eat sweets.0 -
I still think a mars bar is not appropriate for on a ride.0
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Oh well, carry on then if you are happy with it. People are just trying to provide you with helpful advice. Don't you find a Mars melts in this weather though :?0
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I'm sure you can find more appropriate food for similar cost. I just don't see how simple sugars are going to help over a long ride. You'll just get blood sugar spikes and then troughs. Something containing maltodextrin or some other complex carb would be much more beneficial.
Even some malt loaf that you've sliced into chunks and wrapped in cling-film would be cheaper and most probably a better source of energy for a long ride.0 -
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Beans are fine. They're pretty much an ideal ratio of carbs to protein for recovery. You'd have to eat a couple of tins to get as much as a typical recovery drink though.
And Will, it doesn't have to be expensive. You can buy huge bags of maltodextrin on the cheap, and buy some protein in bulk also pretty cheap, and make a decent long lasting energy drink that will replace your need for mars bars.
You say you manage fine with mars bars, but that doesn't mean you couldn't find more performance with better nutrition.
Also, a mars bar as a snack a couple of hours before your race is obviously going to leave you with a sugar crash before your race. Not exactly great race day preparation.0 -
What do I do with this maltodextrin, put it in a drink? What about when I get hungry?
I can get 9 mars bars for £2.80
They say milk is the best recovery drink.
1 tin of beans contains 22g of protein.0 -
Instead of the expensive energy bars - SIS etc., I'm now using the Kelloggs Elevenses bars - lots of oats, sultanas and raisins etc. According to the nutritional data, they have almost exactly the same amount of calories - but a box of 6 elevenses costs as much as 1 SIS bar...
Might be worth a try - the oats in particular offer a more complex carbohydrate, which shouldn't burn as quickly - good for your longer rides (i.e. better than mars bars)Cannondale Synapse 105, Giant Defy 3, Giant Omnium, Giant Trance X2, EMC R1.0, Ridgeback Platinum, On One Il Pompino...0 -
Those are what I use.0
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tomb8555 wrote:Beans are fine. They're pretty much an ideal ratio of carbs to protein for recovery. You'd have to eat a couple of tins to get as much as a typical recovery drink though.
And Will, it doesn't have to be expensive. You can buy huge bags of maltodextrin on the cheap, and buy some protein in bulk also pretty cheap, and make a decent long lasting energy drink that will replace your need for mars bars.
You say you manage fine with mars bars, but that doesn't mean you couldn't find more performance with better nutrition.
Also, a mars bar as a snack a couple of hours before your race is obviously going to leave you with a sugar crash before your race. Not exactly great race day preparation.
Good response - this was one of the first things I was told when I turned up on a club run armed with Mars bars and I've always taken it as fact so nice to see confirmation. Will, for hunger why not carry some bananas? I know Bhima gets stick but you should be able to get them for about the same as a Mars or alternatively malt loaf is cheap and great to eat IMO.0
