Have you ever broken a frame? If not, answer anyway!

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  • meesterbond
    meesterbond Posts: 1,240
    RC76 wrote:
    Username*No of frames*No of random failures*No of known issue failures

    Bails87*2*0*0
    Thewaylander*5*1*0
    .blitz*8*0*0
    stubs*13*1*2
    cee*4*1*0
    Toasty*6*1*1
    FinbarSaunders*1*0*0
    bike-a-swan*4*1*0
    Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0
    Thread8*2*1*0
    Missustoast*3*0*0
    ride_whenever*8*2*0
    alfablue*8*0*0
    MountainPete*2*0*0
    Popstar*3*0*0
    RC76*3*1*0
    meesterbond*8*1*0
  • toasty
    toasty Posts: 2,598
    So far then:

    *85*10*4

    16.5% ish - of frames breaking.
    Stumpy FSR 29er
  • MacAndCheese
    MacAndCheese Posts: 1,944 
    Bails87*2*0*0 
Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
bike-a-swan*4*1*0 
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0 
Thread8*2*1*0 
Missustoast*3*0*0 
ride_whenever*8*2*0 
alfablue*8*0*0 
MountainPete*2*0*0 
Popstar*3*0*0
RC76*3*1*0
meesterbond*8*1*0
MacAndCheese 6*1*0

    Not sure if my 1 break should really count as I put 5" forks on a Kona Lava Dome when I was a stupid kid, so completely user error. Have also not included the spesh Fatboy BMX that ended up sideways on a grind attempt and went downtube first into a concrete bollard with all my weight behind it...
    Santa Cruz Chameleon
    Orange Alpine 160
  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675 
    Northwind*8*0*0

    I did bend one of those but I'm not counting it, it was my first bike, a raleigh marauder, and it had one of those huge mech protector things that cleverly protected your dropouts and mech by bending your entire rear triangle instead. So don't think that counts.

    Other'n that I had 2 frames, a Carrera Kraken and a GT Idrive which were both run with 10mm "too much" fork without any issues, and rode better for it, and my Scandal was ridden a bit beyond its design limits also without issues. And Hemlocks have a wee bit of a rep for going wrong, mine is flawless so far though.
    Uncompromising extremist
  • myopic
    myopic Posts: 692 
    Bails87*2*0*0 
Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
bike-a-swan*4*1*0 
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0 
Thread8*2*1*0 
Missustoast*3*0*0 
ride_whenever*8*2*0 
alfablue*8*0*0 
MountainPete*2*0*0 
Popstar*3*0*0
RC76*3*1*0
meesterbond*8*1*0
MacAndCheese 6*1*0
Northwind*8*0*0
Myopic*4*0*0

    Never bust a frame or had a frame problem - touch wood!
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  • toasty
    toasty Posts: 2,598
    Northwind wrote:
    it was my first bike, a raleigh marauder, and it had one of those huge mech protector things that cleverly protected your dropouts and mech by bending your entire rear triangle instead. So don't think that counts.

    Ooh, which one was it? I wanted the white Marauder when I was younger, it seemed rare compared to the blue one. Sadly my parents did me a favour and got the higher specced, but amazingly garish Lizard. :)

    Still alive today, but a bit small I think :(
    Stumpy FSR 29er
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708 
    Bails87*2*0*0 
Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
bike-a-swan*4*1*0 
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0 
Thread8*2*1*0 
Missustoast*3*0*0 
ride_whenever*8*2*0 
alfablue*8*0*0 
MountainPete*2*0*0 
Popstar*3*0*0
RC76*3*1*0
meesterbond*8*1*0
MacAndCheese 6*1*0
Northwind*8*0*0
Myopic*4*0*0
Supersonic*9*0*0

    Do frames outside warranty period count?
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  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    supersonic wrote:

    Do frames outside warranty period count?

    Yeah, they probably should.
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Erm, I've had about 7 frames, My old Saracen aluminium snapped in half whilst dropping of some stairs, and I snapped a swingarm on my original wolf ridge in a really bad crash that left me concussed, and the bike quite a long way down a ravine.

    So, what does that mean? they're hardly a "snapped randomly" incident. That's like complaining that the build quality on your car isn't very good because it broke when you crashed into a wall.
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    bails87 wrote:
    supersonic wrote:

    Do frames outside warranty period count?

    Yeah, they probably should.

    Hmm, I am not sure. Frames are guaranteed to be free from defects for a set period. If they break outside that, then it has come to the end of its life. Is one way of looking at it lol. If my alu Zaskar broke tommorow, I would be peed off for sure, but 14 years on I wouldn't count it as some random failure.

    Maybe add another number for frames outside warranty period?
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  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    yeehaamcgee
    If you think it was abuse that killed it rather than an unreasonable failure, then it's not a failure.
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    supersonic wrote:
    bails87 wrote:
    supersonic wrote:

    Do frames outside warranty period count?

    Yeah, they probably should.

    Hmm, I am not sure. Frames are guaranteed to be free from defects for a set period. If they break outside that, then it has come to the end of its life. Is one way of looking at it lol. If my alu Zaskar broke tommorow, I would be peed off for sure, but 14 years on I wouldn't count it as some random failure.

    Maybe add another number for frames outside warranty period?
    Ok then, no they probably shouldn't :wink:

    Let's keep it quite simple though. We can have stories of failures/abuse etc, but they can't really be quantified. I'm just trying to get a rough idea of the number of frame failures amongst 'serious' MTBers.

    The official rate may be 1%/5%/10% but if 50% of those bikes are only ever ridden along the towpaths, and another 20% are abandoned in a shed after 3 weeks, is that really a true reflection of frame quality?

    How many people will have 'out of warranty' failures? I don't think it'll be a huge proportion, especially when you consider we're currently at about 16% of frames failing.
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • supersonic
    supersonic Posts: 82,708
    Well we don't know unless we ask lol.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667 
    Bails87*2*0*0 
Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
bike-a-swan*4*1*0 
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0 
Thread8*2*1*0 
Missustoast*3*0*0 
ride_whenever*8*2*0 
alfablue*8*0*0 
MountainPete*2*0*0 
Popstar*3*0*0
RC76*3*1*0
meesterbond*8*1*0
MacAndCheese 6*1*0
Northwind*8*0*0
Myopic*4*0*0
Supersonic*9*0*0
sheepsteeth*26*0*0
  • toasty
    toasty Posts: 2,598
    26 mountain bikes? :O

    It's people like you that drag these breakage numbers down to 1%! :P
    Stumpy FSR 29er
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    bails87 wrote:
    yeehaamcgee
    If you think it was abuse that killed it rather than an unreasonable failure, then it's not a failure.
    Ah, ok.
    In that case then... 
    Bails87*2*0*0
Thewaylander*5*1*0
.blitz*8*0*0
stubs*13*1*2
cee*4*1*0
Toasty*6*1*1
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0
bike-a-swan*4*1*0
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0
Thread8*2*1*0
Missustoast*3*0*0
ride_whenever*8*2*0
alfablue*8*0*0
MountainPete*2*0*0
Popstar*3*0*0
RC76*3*1*0
meesterbond*8*1*0
MacAndCheese 6*1*0
Northwind*8*0*0
Myopic*4*0*0
Supersonic*9*0*0
sheepsteeth*26*0*0
YeehaaMcGee*7*0*0
  • mrfmilo
    mrfmilo Posts: 2,250 
    Bails87*2*0*0 
Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
bike-a-swan*4*1*0 
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0 
Thread8*2*1*0 
Missustoast*3*0*0 
ride_whenever*8*2*0 
alfablue*8*0*0 
MountainPete*2*0*0 
Popstar*3*0*0 
RC76*3*1*0 
meesterbond*8*1*0 
MacAndCheese 6*1*0 
Northwind*8*0*0 
Myopic*4*0*0 
Supersonic*9*0*0 
sheepsteeth*26*0*0
YeehaaMcGee*7*0*0 
mrfmilo*4*0*0
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Toasty wrote:
    26 mountain bikes? :O

    It's people like you that drag these breakage numbers down to 1%! :P

    oh, some of them are road bikes, so ive only had 22 mtbs:
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Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
bike-a-swan*4*1*0 
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0 
Thread8*2*1*0 
Missustoast*3*0*0 
ride_whenever*8*2*0 
alfablue*8*0*0 
MountainPete*2*0*0 
Popstar*3*0*0 
RC76*3*1*0 
meesterbond*8*1*0 
MacAndCheese 6*1*0 
Northwind*8*0*0 
Myopic*4*0*0 
Supersonic*9*0*0 
sheepsteeth*22*0*0
YeehaaMcGee*7*0*0 
mrfmilo*4*0*0
  • toasty
    toasty Posts: 2,598
    sheepsteeth wrote:
    oh, some of them are road bikes, so ive only had 22 mtbs:

    Ah, much more sensible :shock: :wink:
    Stumpy FSR 29er
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    ive only been riding for 4 years :oops:
  • toasty
    toasty Posts: 2,598
    5-6 a year? :o No wonder you don't have time to break them!
    Stumpy FSR 29er
  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    sheepsteeth wrote:
    ive only been riding for 4 years :oops:

    More money than sense! Which isn't hard :wink:
    MTB/CX

    "As I said last time, it won't happen again."
  • RealMan
    RealMan Posts: 2,166 
    Bails87*2*0*0 
Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
bike-a-swan*4*1*0 
Joshtp/mbukman*5*0*0 
Thread8*2*1*0 
Missustoast*3*0*0 
ride_whenever*8*2*0 
alfablue*8*0*0 
MountainPete*2*0*0 
Popstar*3*0*0 
RC76*3*1*0 
meesterbond*8*1*0 
MacAndCheese 6*1*0 
Northwind*8*0*0 
Myopic*4*0*0 
Supersonic*9*0*0 
sheepsteeth*22*0*0
YeehaaMcGee*7*0*0 
mrfmilo*4*0*0
RealMans Dad*2*1*0
RealMan*2*0*0
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    realmans dad, now there's a thought.....................................
  • RealMan
    RealMan Posts: 2,166
    Turns out that quite a few people have a Dad actually
  • Andy B
    Andy B Posts: 8,115
    97 Scott Peak, no failures
    98 Orange Clockwork, no failures
    03 Orange Gringo, no failures
    06 Orange 5, no failures
    07 Orange 5, no failures
    10 Cube AMS Pro 100, no failures

    6 proper MTB's with no failures & I'm not the most graceful of riders.
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  • Northwind
    Northwind Posts: 14,675
    Toasty wrote:
    Ooh, which one was it? I wanted the white Marauder when I was younger, it seemed rare compared to the blue one. Sadly my parents did me a favour and got the higher specced, but amazingly garish Lizard. :)

    Brace yourself!

    IMG_0068.jpg

    The white ones were the Index model, 18 speed with an SIS rear thumbie instead of the 15-speed on the blue one. Already I had a taste for pointless expensive upgrades :lol:
    Uncompromising extremist
  • UncleMonty
    UncleMonty Posts: 385
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  • Richie63
    Richie63 Posts: 2,132
    RealMan wrote:
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Thewaylander*5*1*0 
.blitz*8*0*0 
stubs*13*1*2 
cee*4*1*0 
Toasty*6*1*1 
FinbarSaunders*1*0*0 
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RealMans Dad*2*1*0
RealMan*2*0*0
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