Don't like dogs? Then you shouldn't be in the woods!
Johnny Napalm
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I usually go out Sat afternoon for a ride in Wharncliffe, but today I took my young son for a walk around the woods instead.
We hadn't been in there five minutes when we encountered a couple with two dogs approaching in the opposite direction. The dogs, neither of them on leads, then proceeded to make a bee-line for my 5yr old son, and began jumping up at him. Not only was he frightened, but he was also caked in muddy paw prints.
I requested that the couple stop their untethered animals, which the man did try to do. As we walked away the, still untethered, dogs came after us and continued to jump up at my son. At that point I said it was beyond a joke, and that they needed to control their dogs, and that some people do not want/like other peoples' animals jumping all over them. The woman then told me that if I didn't like it then I shouldn't be in the woods (honest)!
The man was actually trying to stop them, while she waxed lyrical, but to no avail. I told her that they should be on leads, if they can't control them, to which she responded by calling me a 'mardy a*se'! I asked her not to use such language in front of my son, and told her that she needed to have some respect, and she eventually ceased her pearls of wisdom.
As far as I can see, I did nothing wrong, and I still can't believe the attitude of some dog-owners. Credit to the man because he did repeatedly apologise, while trying to control the things. As for her, she was of no use whatsoever, and I hope he gave her a piece of his mind later. I actually felt sorry for him.
Imagine the next time I'm on my bike and perhaps they run in front of my wheels, and I can't stop and hit one of them. Should she complain, then I'll tell her that if she doesn't like such behaviour, then she shouldn't be in the woods. I wonder how that would go down!
I was going to finish by stating that some people shouldn't be allowed dogs, but some people just shouldn't be allowed!
We hadn't been in there five minutes when we encountered a couple with two dogs approaching in the opposite direction. The dogs, neither of them on leads, then proceeded to make a bee-line for my 5yr old son, and began jumping up at him. Not only was he frightened, but he was also caked in muddy paw prints.
I requested that the couple stop their untethered animals, which the man did try to do. As we walked away the, still untethered, dogs came after us and continued to jump up at my son. At that point I said it was beyond a joke, and that they needed to control their dogs, and that some people do not want/like other peoples' animals jumping all over them. The woman then told me that if I didn't like it then I shouldn't be in the woods (honest)!
The man was actually trying to stop them, while she waxed lyrical, but to no avail. I told her that they should be on leads, if they can't control them, to which she responded by calling me a 'mardy a*se'! I asked her not to use such language in front of my son, and told her that she needed to have some respect, and she eventually ceased her pearls of wisdom.
As far as I can see, I did nothing wrong, and I still can't believe the attitude of some dog-owners. Credit to the man because he did repeatedly apologise, while trying to control the things. As for her, she was of no use whatsoever, and I hope he gave her a piece of his mind later. I actually felt sorry for him.
Imagine the next time I'm on my bike and perhaps they run in front of my wheels, and I can't stop and hit one of them. Should she complain, then I'll tell her that if she doesn't like such behaviour, then she shouldn't be in the woods. I wonder how that would go down!
I was going to finish by stating that some people shouldn't be allowed dogs, but some people just shouldn't be allowed!
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The rougher it gets, the harder you become
not having a go, but i have to deal with lots of people in my job who have grown up to be what we call mambies, caused by things like you had today
be more forceful next time the same happens, and push the dogs away from yer son. I even once booted a dog that tried climbing on my sons pushchair. Show the dog and it's owners your more than they are
Danny
However, not stopping your dogs from jumping up at people and then having the bare faced cheek to have a go at you about it is a joke. I bet she wouldn't of been so up herself if her husband hadn't been there!
people think it's a right to own an animal, so lets get this clear it's not a right it's a censored responsibility and a privilege.
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Grab the child and shout that the dog has bitten him and you're going to the police. Yeah, that'll spoil their walks for the next week
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Then asked her to restrain her pet
"As I said last time, it won't happen again."
Give the beast a good kick and then expect a vicious owner to have a go.
Alternatively follow them home and give them a cleaning bill.
Seriously though, life can get worse you know.. :?
....because it's there?
Depends a lot on the size of the dog (or owner) in question
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i've done a full on stoppie before avoiding some clowns wee dog that wasn't on a leash and ran out in front me blind on the canal towpath.
didn't really fancy a dip in the canal. so gave full vent to him. next time i saw the dog it was on a leash
May not have a desired calming effect, but who cares.....
When I did it, all the woman could say to her husband/boyfriend was "Are you gonna hit him or what" From the smirk I got from the guy when I said it I knew it wasn't gonna happen.
The folks with me certainly though it humerous too...... Sadly I think she'd had a sence of humour byepass
I don't want sympathy, mate...I was just highlighting the fact that some dog-owners are inconsiderate, and think that everyone should share their view that they and little Rex can do as they please. I don't let my kids go and annoy other people, because I understand that some people do not want other peoples' kids bothering them. It would be extremely inconsiderate of me to just let my kids run up to other people and annoy them.
Believe me, my son has experienced much worse and dealt with broken bones in the past without so much as a complaint. Far more maturely than a lot of adults would. So the mambie accusation is a bit of a stupid point when you don't even know anything about me or my son. I know from personal experience about toughening up as you go through life...like most people. It's part of making your way through this world, and a fact of life.
From your reply I could say that perhaps you appear insecure and you over-compensate with chest-beating, macho posts, but I wouldn't because I don't know you. It would be stupid of me, even if it appears that way! I'm not having a go either, mate.
In the past I have handled situations more forcefully, as you put it, and have sailed close to the wind on a few too many occasions. Nowadays, I try to act in a proper manner and lead by example, especially in front of my children. If you had read my post, you would have noticed that I mentioned that the guy tried to sort it, but I was mainly drawing attention to the woman being oblivious to the fact that they were in the wrong, and the fact that she thought if we want to walk in the woods, then we should have to put up with it, which we shouldn't.
I understand mosts peoples' reaction to kick the dogs, believe me, but the problem does lie with the owners. If a dog cannot be controlled, then they should have the responsibility to keep it on a lead in a public place. And, clean up after the bloody things too.
I'm not trying to say that this is the end of the world, just an observation, but I suppose I should've thought twice before posting.
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just so we're clear, I was saying kick the woman.......
"As I said last time, it won't happen again."
You're a bad influence, mate!
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In reality, obviously, best not to kick anyone, but if you're going to, then kick the 'intelligent' one, she should know better!
"As I said last time, it won't happen again."
so you are indeed advocating kicking the dog then? cause no intelligent owner would have the dog out in the woods without a lead on.
Hence the inverted commas.
I'd kick a dog if it was genuinely attacking me, but in this situation it sounds like stupid-owner syndrome more than anything else, not just to let the dog jump up at a child, but to then make out that the OP was being unreasonable.
"As I said last time, it won't happen again."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vj1r2hPvzw
It was only a pup, cant blame it really, it's jut doing what dogs do (made me laff when it tried to take a bite of the m8's tyre tho).
What we found very odd though was that while she was shouting and screaming at the dog (and saying how it never does this honest) she thought it was a good idea to try to kick it?
So she couldn't control the dog (well duh its a puppy, try a lead maybe?) and to top it off when the dog played up she swung her foot at it.
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If you can't predict what your dog is going to do have it on a long lead when it might come into contact with other people, a tracking lead gives enough freedom but can give control quickly.
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stop being so mard!
the number of times dogs are out of control and i've needed to take emergency action is amazing. I get reactions like, "its ok, he doesnt bite" or "well come on then" as their dog tries to attack me or just plain stupid grins because their cute Rover "is only playing" FFS!
Like has been said tho, not the dogs fault its the owner. It also should be said there are some decent owners as well that do everything they can to stop fido doing his chasing thing.
My dog does not run after OR jump up anyone, I make sure of that.
As a dog owner I also encounter some idiotic dog owners. My dog is on a lead because he is a bit hyper to say the least, but when other dogs come bounding up to him off their lead and try to mount him which he hates so retaliates, WE have been shouted at by the leadless dog owner.
Some people are just morons.
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naa thats no fun
Erm, good luck with that.
I certainly wouldnt tell some random stranger that my dog's been barking at my address etc.
Hell even if I didnt have a barking dog and they asked I'd tell them where to go...
OK, there's some stinking attitudes out there and this isn't really in response to the original post, it just seems that many bikers are as bad as the walkers who grumble that you're on their paths and so on. A little consideration goes a long way. If you see someone up ahead, slow down, and if you have a dog, call it back. But a dog cannot live its life on a leash. It needs to run. Sure, unless you have full control you need to be vigilant and have it on a leash if required, but where better to let it run than a quiet woodland?
It's some of the exact same attitudes in this thread that would have bikes banned (and have done). I hate rules in the countryside and feel a little courtesy is enough, but now and again you're going to come across something you don't like, just like the bunch of smokers you pass on the way into work. It's no big deal.
Couldn't be futher from the truth, I really like dogs and had one for a long time, who could not be trusted so needed looking after.
Now inconsiderate dog owners are another matter. 8)
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