Don't like dogs? Then you shouldn't be in the woods!
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Unless it's really angry and really big with really pointy teeth, I'll generally stop for curious dogs, get off, and let them have a bit of a sniff.
Every dog I've ever owned has been curious about bikes until you show them it's nothing scary or overly exciting.
I had a Rotty knock me off once, he was only playing, but he jumped up at me while I was stood over the bike and knocked me off balance. Never shat myself more in my entire life.
I do agree that until they're properly trained, they should be leashed up, more for their own safety than anything else but it's not always as simple as that.0 -
Some $PEOPLE* are assholes, some aren't.
* walkers / dog owners / bikers / horse riders (delete as appropriate)0 -
Cat With No Tail wrote:Unless it's really angry and really big with really pointy teeth, I'll generally stop for curious dogs, get off, and let them have a bit of a sniff.
^that.
I think it's actually the law here that dogs stay on leads (they have laws for how loud you can fart in belgium....) but I don't begrudge dogs or their owners for letting them run free and so long as the dog is not a dangerous breed/size/temperament I don't mind them having a bit of fun. But then I'm 40 and 6' and confident around dogs not a 5 year old who's face is at doghead level. Sounds like the owner's wife acted like a right so-and-so, best put it out of your mind.
The real issue, IMO, is that dog owners often don't get that many non-dog owners are not confident around dogs and so can panic when their spaniel gets a bit frisky, at which point the dog may also panic and then you have a problem
And I would never report a dog unless I really felt it was dangerous. This is always (ALWAYS) the owner's fault but it's the dog they put down.Everything in moderation ... except beer
Beer in moderation ... is a waste of beer
If riding an XC race bike is like touching the trail,
then riding a rigid singlespeed is like licking it
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Be careful about letting dogs have sniff - the stench from my riding gloves is enough to stun any dog.
A few months ago I stopped to pat a friendly mutt and I put my hand out to let it smell it first.
It yelped and ran off
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God I hate uncontrolled dogs. I'm also amazed how fast they can run, got chased for a good minute by a sheep dog type thing (sorry don't know breed names) whilst I was giving full beans in the big ring...I literally got to the point where I reached my physically limit, even with adrenaline and had to stop pedalling...luckily the dog had decided to stop and turn back a few yards behind but I was a mess...
It hadn't helped that the missus had watched that Caesar dog whisperer bloke on the TV the night before. He was showing this dog that was growling and making what he referred to as the "Kill sound" ...I swear the dog chasing me was making the same noise!
Oh, and people that say "he/she is only playing!" are full of cr@p.Santa Cruz Chameleon
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live and let live.
all bikers , walkers , horseriders and animals are entited to enjoy the countryside.
no-one has a god given right over anyone else.0 -
bomberesque wrote:Cat With No Tail wrote:Unless it's really angry and really big with really pointy teeth, I'll generally stop for curious dogs, get off, and let them have a bit of a sniff.
^that.
I think it's actually the law here that dogs stay on leads (they have laws for how loud you can fart in belgium....) but I don't begrudge dogs or their owners for letting them run free and so long as the dog is not a dangerous breed/size/temperament I don't mind them having a bit of fun. But then I'm 40 and 6' and confident around dogs not a 5 year old who's face is at doghead level. Sounds like the owner's wife acted like a right so-and-so, best put it out of your mind.
The real issue, IMO, is that dog owners often don't get that many non-dog owners are not confident around dogs and so can panic when their spaniel gets a bit frisky, at which point the dog may also panic and then you have a problem
And I would never report a dog unless I really felt it was dangerous. This is always (ALWAYS) the owner's fault but it's the dog they put down.
Unless the dog has actually attacked someone it is unlikely it would be put down, but the owners can still get the grief of not being in control of their dog, better if the owners were put down mind
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Why are MTB economics; spend twice as much as you intended, but only half as much as you wish you could afford? :roll:0 -
Just be thankful that they chose to keep dogs lasting 12years or so rather than pop out sproggs into an over populated society and put a lack of effort into their up bringing.
Though for all we know they have got kids and they left them under the staircase while they took the dogs out for a romp ion the woods.
I live on a farm and I deal with irresponsible people who think that farmers owe them the right to have the public all over their land. I just inform them that a dog deemed out of control around live stock can be shot dead. It usually generates frantic crying and owner chasing dog to put the lead on while the dog thinks this is a good game and runs around ''chase me chase me!''
In your above situation I cant believe as a father you stood while a random dog/dogs jumped up at your child. even the friendliest of dogs can nip bite in excitement. I'd have had no problem with physical force to deter the dog.
I work with dogs on a daily basis and some are just plain silly, dogs at play / greeting do often do so in an excitable manner, but they need to learn that it's not acceptable to bound around and bounce on a human, whether 10 or 80 years of age. Us two legged are easily toppled!
It's because of people like those you mentioned that people see fit to lay poison around woods for dogs to find.
As is the case with most things in this country, those at true blame are rarely pay the ultimate cost. The dog dies, the owner cries, then buys another.
I don't understand why so many people in this country have an attitude problem, why they cant just say sorry and see things from someone else's point of view.
semi rant over. But in future I think you should put your bike between any strange dogs at least its a small line of defence. Not all dogs that look friendly have good intentions, with puppy farms and dogs elaving litters too soon often they can be ''smilling'' and thinking about bitting your leg.4 wheels move the body, 2 wheels move the soul.0 -
biff55 wrote:live and let live.
all bikers , walkers , horseriders and animals are entited to enjoy the countryside.
no-one has a god given right over anyone else.el loco pollo wrote:Some $PEOPLE* are assholes, some aren't.
* walkers / dog owners / bikers / horse riders (delete as appropriate)
Well said both of these posts!
As a dog owner, horse rider and cyclist (road and MTB) I can see all points of view.
Nobody likes horses, they sh*t everywhere and are big and scary.
Nobody likes dogs, they too sh*t everywhere and bark and chase people.
Nobody likes bikes, they're fast and can knock you over and churn up the ground.
The real problem though isn't the horse, dog, or bike!
It's the rider/owner each time being inconsiderate and irresponsible!
Everyone has the right to use the Countryside and enjoy it!a dirtbag of the most delightful variety0 -
SJ wrote:biff55 wrote:live and let live.
all bikers , walkers , horseriders and animals are entited to enjoy the countryside.
no-one has a god given right over anyone else.el loco pollo wrote:Some $PEOPLE* are assholes, some aren't.
* walkers / dog owners / bikers / horse riders (delete as appropriate)
Well said both of these posts!
As a dog owner, horse rider and cyclist (road and MTB) I can see all points of view.
Nobody likes horses, they sh*t everywhere and are big and scary.
Nobody likes dogs, they too sh*t everywhere and bark and chase people.
Nobody likes bikes, they're fast and can knock you over and churn up the ground.
The real problem though isn't the horse, dog, or bike!
It's the rider/owner each time being inconsiderate and irresponsible!
Everyone has the right to use the Countryside and enjoy it!
Well said SJ
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SJ I notice you don't mention horses churning up the ground ;-)
+1 for sharing the countryside. We'd all have a lot more access than we do if we took that kind of attitude.Everything in moderation ... except beer
Beer in moderation ... is a waste of beer
If riding an XC race bike is like touching the trail,
then riding a rigid singlespeed is like licking it
... or being punched by it, depending on the day0 -
I agree with the sentiment that we should all get on and share the countryside. What gets my goat though, are when you get evils because fido has run
across your path and forced you to brake/take evasive action. I had one instance when a dog owner started lecturing me for cycling (on a shared cycle and pedestrian path), calling me anti social! I stood there agasp as her dog chose that moment to do it's business on the path...told her if she thought I was more antisocial than t
he pile of mess on the path then she was a moron. Politely of course.2015 Nukeproof Mega TR 275 in raw0 -
I've had untold run-ins with dogowners over the years - not as a cyclist but as a former dog-owner.
I always train my dogs and ensure they do not cause a nuisance but I realise I was in a minority there. The number of times I ended up with someone else's dog following mine around or harrassing mine (female) or attacking my other one (male). Many owners seemed just not to care and I reckon things have got worse in the last ten years not better.
As a cyclist though I do tend to slow down when I see a dog though most owners seem to be pretty good at holding onto their dog when I'm passing on a cycle path - I've never had any trouble tbh.0 -
In your above situation I cant believe as a father you stood while a random dog/dogs jumped up at your child. even the friendliest of dogs can nip bite in excitement. I'd have had no problem with physical force to deter the dog.
Excuse me, were you there? Who said that I just stood and watched? I did my best to keep the dogs away, and protect my child, but I didn't think that booting them was the best idea...especially when the dogs were in the same vicinity as him. It helps to think sometimes.
I'd prefer it if you didn't just imagine what happened. Casting such aspersions regarding me being a poor father is extremely offensive, and something that you have no right to say.0 -
I'd prefer it if you didn't just imagine what happened. Casting such aspersions regarding me being a poor father is extremely offensive, and something that you have no right to say.
That's the internet for you. I got accused of being an out of control alcohlic on another thread just for admitting I ahd 5 beers at an event over three years ago.
some guy said he'd have locked me up for it.
Honestly - it's best not to argue on the internet - now I just say my piece and leave it at that.0 -
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