What;s your average power output
Percy Veere
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I'm interested to know what you would consider your average power output is. That would be the power you feel you could comfortably keep up for 2 hours or more.
I heard somewhere (last years TdF I think) that a pro rider would typically put out 250W on the flat, lots more on the climbs.
I seem to be able to average about 140-160W, just wondered what everyone else can do.
I heard somewhere (last years TdF I think) that a pro rider would typically put out 250W on the flat, lots more on the climbs.
I seem to be able to average about 140-160W, just wondered what everyone else can do.
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no idea, but so long as my times keep coming down then power must be going up
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Power to weight is what matters, especially on the climbs. Actually, results are what really matter but power to weight is a good guide.0
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My average is currently around 206, if I'm taking it steady it's around 170.
I've not had a go yet where I am fully recovered, so I think I can get it to around 250 maybe higher.
When I get onto a climb, my power goes up to between 300 and 400.
I weigh about 12st and am about 5ft 11.0 -
12W less than NapD
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Too low to be measurable.0
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There are quite a lot of factors influencing what your average power output might be over that length of time. You say "comfortably" over "two hours or more", but most people won't be going flat out on an average ride of several hours. The only meaningful measurement would be your maximum sustainable average power over (say) 2 hours, but that won't be comfortable.. :-)
Much more meaningful to look at the maximum power you can sustain over 1 hour, or 5 minutes, when you are really trying!0 -
a really newbie question, but how do you measure it..?0
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Power meter. They're super duba expensive tho.0
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500w.0
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I guess it's a bit like the average speed discussion - it's very difficult to do a like for like comparsion, which makes a lot of the figures meaningless.
Personally I would not trust readouts on turbo trainers or bike computers, even less gym bikes, for absolute measurements. I would say they are more useful for comparing your own relative performances.
I do see benefit from training with power, but accurate enough equipment (ie powertap/srm or similar) still costs quite a bit more than most people can justify. Hopefully in time it will become more affordable. The earlier poster is spot on though - power needs to be considered with weight.
I have been having a play on wattbikes recently. For a 750m sprint, which takes just under 1 min, I think I was averging 520w but maybe my memory has exagerated that. I'm back tomorrow so will try and remember to note the figures down. I'm 70kg and would consider myself to be a reasonable level club cyclist who hasn't done much riding for the last few months!0 -
I have done the 2 x 8 minute test tonight that Carmichael uses in his training plan and I averaged 314w for the 1st 8 minute test and 311w for the 2nd 8 minute test.
Heart rate was 171 average for test 1 and 172 for test 2.
I did a 14 mile TT at the end of 09 and the last 20 minutes averaged 172 so the lacatate threshold HR is about right.
I must make it clear though that I don't get hung up on numbers, most of my training is a mix between how I feel and using the numbers as a guide during training then I look back with interest after the ride.0 -
BigDarbs wrote:I have done the 2 x 8 minute test tonight that Carmichael uses in his training plan and I averaged 314w for the 1st 8 minute test and 311w for the 2nd 8 minute test.
Heart rate was 171 average for test 1 and 172 for test 2.
I did a 14 mile TT at the end of 09 and the last 20 minutes averaged 172 so the lacatate threshold HR is about right.
I must make it clear though that I don't get hung up on numbers, most of my training is a mix between how I feel and using the numbers as a guide during training then I look back with interest after the ride.
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Us amateurs can read too much into the statistic side of cycling. If we were all as good as some of us say, we would be riding in europe....... :roll: [/u]0 -
+1.a_n_t wrote:no idea, but so long as my times keep coming down then power must be going up
As my mileage goes up, my times come down, my waistline comes down and power up I guess
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I'm trying to do around 200-220w for an hour tempo riding at the moment. I weigh 60kg.
Would love to be able to get up to around 240 by the summer.0 -
My tempo sessions on the turbo have been averaging at about 240w."In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"
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Last April/May I was blasting round Richmond Park at ~320 watts FTP. At the end of those sessions I was pretty tired.
If I was on a regular tempo run the wattage was far far lower. More like 220. With a little concentration I would do 250, but once my mind wandered off my body would naturally slow down. For me it felt like I could run at 250 all day.
Of course, I then broke my hip so never got to try out an all day 250 watts run.
By the time I get back on the bike it'll be almost a full year with no cycling at all. I am really about how the graphs will look when I get back on.0 -
Pokerface wrote:rake wrote:500w.
I'll see your 500 and raise you 10.
I call your bluffing
tested the other day on a watt bike provided by the roving BCF guy
mine was 223 watts avg for 20 min test..
so bout 170- 200 strolling around is my guess
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phreak wrote:I'm trying to do around 200-220w for an hour tempo riding at the moment. I weigh 60kg.
Would love to be able to get up to around 240 by the summer.
well your doing better than me cos i weigh 83kg"If I was a 38 year old man, I definitely wouldn't be riding a bright yellow bike with Hello Kitty disc wheels, put it that way. What we're witnessing here is the world's most high profile mid-life crisis" Afx237vi Mon Jul 20, 2009 2:43 pm0 -
Is 206W over a 15mile course that starts off slightly bumpy then starts on shooting up on a 3% gradient good? I think it took me around 45 mins. When I weight 77kg0
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Oh
, I guess I've got a long way to go untill I'm a good cyclist.
One guy who trains averages like 310 apparently, he does 25 mile and 10 mile TT's averaging 30mph.
I think I did a course much more efficient today tho, I averaged 200W and was 35bps from my constant rate I could sustain for an hour, felt fresh. I went for a sprint finish but my foot slipped from the pedal when pushed the power in, so I ended up in the wrong gear, too low cadence and due to it could barely break 550W.0 -
Oh , I guess I've got a long way to go untill I'm a good cyclist.
You are a good cyclist, but maybe you need to decide whether you want to exel at 170 mile rides or 10 mile TTs 0 -
An 'all-out' effort over 15 miles at 200w isn't bad. It just isn't impressive, etc.
But was it really an all-out effort?
The terrain can make it difficult to get higher wattage numbers - if you spend time 'cruising' along or freewheeling, etc - your wattage will come down.
But 200w for 45 mins would put your FTP below 200w - which isn't good.0 -
Got a mate with a powertap pro to use my turbo last night to see how my power measurement compares to his. Quite glad to see my turbo seemed to be a fairly constant 20watts lower than the powertap - of course it doesn't make me any faster but it's nice to know anyway!
So if I get back to last Springs numbers at around 320 watts (done as a fairly hard effort but not flat out killing myself) for my 2*20s and around 12.5 stone (target - I'm actually 13'3 now but we'll gloss over that) what kind of standard should I be looking at/how to I compare to most ? Planning on doing a few open TTs this year and LVRC /lower cat BC racing.
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Tom Butcher wrote:Got a mate with a powertap pro to use my turbo last night to see how my power measurement compares to his. Quite glad to see my turbo seemed to be a fairly constant 20watts lower than the powertap - of course it doesn't make me any faster but it's nice to know anyway!
So if I get back to last Springs numbers at around 320 watts (done as a fairly hard effort but not flat out killing myself) for my 2*20s and around 12.5 stone (target - I'm actually 13'3 now but we'll gloss over that) what kind of standard should I be looking at/how to I compare to most ? Planning on doing a few open TTs this year and LVRC /lower cat BC racing.
A hell of a lot better than me.0 -
Tom Butcher wrote:Got a mate with a powertap pro to use my turbo last night to see how my power measurement compares to his. Quite glad to see my turbo seemed to be a fairly constant 20watts lower than the powertap - of course it doesn't make me any faster but it's nice to know anyway!
So if I get back to last Springs numbers at around 320 watts (done as a fairly hard effort but not flat out killing myself) for my 2*20s and around 12.5 stone (target - I'm actually 13'3 now but we'll gloss over that) what kind of standard should I be looking at/how to I compare to most ? Planning on doing a few open TTs this year and LVRC /lower cat BC racing.
If you're pushing out 4watts per kg surely you could do better than lower cat BC racing? The table in the training with power book suggests cat 3 racers are roughly 3-4watts per kg.0 -
phreak wrote:If you're pushing out 4watts per kg surely you could do better than lower cat BC racing? The table in the training with power book suggests cat 3 racers are roughly 3-4watts per kg.
US cat 3 racers... it says nothing about UK ones.
At about 4+ and 75kg's I'm about average in 3rd cat races in the UK, certainly enough to not get dropped, but not much more.
Of course simple watts per kilo is not really enough.Jibbering Sports Stuff: http://jibbering.com/sports/0
