Very cheap Eastons EA90 SL!!!

gabriel959

£250 notes at Chain reaction - only Shimano/SRAM.

W00t a bargain!!!!

http://www.chainreactioncycles.com/Mode ... elID=26446

Garry H

I'm so tempted, probably risking a divorce though so will need to weigh up the pros and cons of both

gabriel959

Garry H wrote:

I'm so tempted, probably risking a divorce though so will need to weigh up the pros and cons of both

heheh, I was the same but I already did that earlier in the year with some Fulcrums. I am going to pass this one ... sure I will

kingrollo

Another reason I m glad I switched to shimano £450 for Campag !

hammerite

kingrollo wrote:

Another reason I m glad I switched to shimano £450 for Campag !

I wouldn't say that Chainreaction is a good example of the price difference between Campag and Shimano compatible kit - after all the RRPs are identical.

If you look at shoes in a sale at Chainreaction they'll have one pair at 50% discount that are bright yellow, yet the black or white ones would only have a 10% discount. Seems they discount the stock that they have stacks of, but not others, which makes sense.

Squillinossett

would these be worth it over the wheels that are going to come on my Boardman Carbon?

I reccon I will be able to sell them on ebay for £75-£100 branch new and unused so these will only cost me £150 if thats the case?

gabriel959

Squillinossett wrote:

would these be worth it over the wheels that are going to come on my Boardman Carbon?

I reccon I will be able to sell them on ebay for £75-£100 branch new and unused so these will only cost me £150 if thats the case?

I reckon they would be a massive upgrade mate. Go for it! This offer won't be there for more than a day or 2 tops.

Squillinossett

I have ordered them, but just noticed it says Dura Ace only? Will I not be able use any other cassette on it, if not then this adds to the cost by some margin?

gabriel959

you will be ok - thats CRC and their dodgy description.

but you can always call them to be sure...

Norch

Just made my mind up to buy some and then saw "Out of stock"

Squillinossett

dont worry, i spoke to them as they were out of stick, you can still order then and they will have some more in next week.

Squillinossett

I spoke to them and they say its just DA? anyone shine some light on this, who is right? and whats different on DA than others?

strodey

If you look at the same ones on wiggle and see the questions section it will say dura ace only! i've looked around on various sites and there are differing veiws on this. Personaly i'm not risking it till i know for sure.

Pokerface

Squillinossett wrote:

I spoke to them and they say its just DA? anyone shine some light on this, who is right? and whats different on DA than others?

Check the Easton compatibility chart: http://www.eastonbike.com/downloadable_ ... 0Chart.pdf

Unless I am wrong, the EA90SL comes with an R4 freehub and is compatible with most Shimano 10-speed cassettes.

2009 Dura Ace 7900 10-speed freehubs and cassettes are a specific size or the splines are extra long or something.

crimsondynamo

Just to be absolutely clear, the 10sp Dura Ace bit refers to the freehub body? Which is the same as saying Shimano 10sp cassette compatible???

EDIT: just realised I'm asking the same as everyone else. We all want to know what the catch is!

Squillinossett

I have seen on another website it will work with 105 cassette, but not Ultegra?

Pokerface

Again - if you look at the chart - the EA90 SL freehub is compatible with ALL Shimano 10-speed cassettes from Dura Ace to 105 to Ultegra.

And yes - the Dura Ace compatible bit refers to the freehub.

On the EA90 SLX wheels - they are Dura Ace compatible ONLY.


I'm just going by what Easton themselves say.

HonestAl

Chaps, the dura ace freehub body will fit other Shimano cassettes, but will chew up something rotten. How do I know? Cos I bought some 90 SLXs a couple of months ago, with the same freehub that's on these wheels (at the time there was nothing to tell you that they were dura ace compatible only), put an ultegra cassette on it, and it's a mess now.

I've been talking to CR today about exactly this issue and they're replacing my freehub with one suitable for ultegra as there was nothing indicating that the freehub was only suitable for Dura Ace. As we talked I asked the chap to check these SL wheels as one of my kids was interested in buying them. He confirmed that it is Dura Ace only (and modified the description on the site to suit) (BTW I agree that the link to the Easton site would lead you to believe otherwise - I'm going off of what the CR gent said) I suspect you might find that in a few days they'll offer ultegra freehubs as optional replacements for easton wheels

So the wheels (which are now out of stock) are a bargain, but you'll likely have to buy yourself an ultegra replacement freehub (around 30 quid ish)

If anyone wants to see what the freehub will look like after a few hundred miles let me know.

Pokerface

HonestAl wrote:

Chaps, the dura ace freehub body will fit other Shimano cassettes, but will chew up something rotten. How do I know? Cos I bought some 90 SLXs a couple of months ago, with the same freehub that's on these wheels (at the time there was nothing to tell you that they were dura ace compatible only), put an ultegra cassette on it, and it's a mess now.

I've been talking to CR today about exactly this issue and they're replacing my freehub with one suitable for ultegra as there was nothing indicating that the freehub was only suitable for Dura Ace. As we talked I asked the chap to check these SL wheels as one of my kids was interested in buying them. He confirmed that it is Dura Ace only (and modified the description on the site to suit) (BTW I agree that the link to the Easton site would lead you to believe otherwise - I'm going off of what the CR gent said) I suspect you might find that in a few days they'll offer ultegra freehubs as optional replacements for easton wheels

So the wheels (which are now out of stock) are a bargain, but you'll likely have to buy yourself an ultegra replacement freehub (around 30 quid ish)

If anyone wants to see what the freehub will look like after a few hundred miles let me know.

The Easton website clearly states that the EA90 SLX wheels are Dura Ace compatible ONLY. At least the 2009 model.

The EA90 SL wheel uses a different set of hubs with a different freehub.

Unless CRC changed the hubs or freehub body, then these particular wheels WILL be compatible with Ultegra, etc.

It's easy to confuse the SL and SLX - but do some research and you'll find the answers.

For those who are too lazy to click the link I provided earlier:

R4 Shimano 10 speed Cassette Body
SAP # 2013516
M2K# 5107471
Stock on: 2009 EA90 SL, EA90 AERO, EA90 TT, EC90 TT
2008 EA90 SLX, EA90 SL, EA90 AERO, EA90 TT, EC90 TT
Compatible Cassettes
Shimano 10 speed: Dura-Ace 7800, Dura-Ace 7900, Ultegra 6600 (except 13-25, 14-25,
15-25, 16-27 cassettes), 105 5600

R4SL Shimano 10 speed Cassette Body
SAP # 2013517
M2K# 7114022
Stock on: 2009 EA90 SLX, EC90 SLX, EC90 SL, EC90 AERO
Compatible Cassettes
Shimano 10 speed: Dura-Ace 7800, Dura-Ace 7900


Read carefully to note the differences between the EA and EC models. Also note some models are 2008 and some are 2009.

Pokerface

Squillinossett wrote:

I have seen on another website it will work with 105 cassette, but not Ultegra?

See my post above. Works with SOME Ultegra cassettes - but not ALL.

Cycling is Forever

Squillinossett wrote:

dont worry, i spoke to them as they were out of stick, you can still order then and they will have some more in next week.

This is part of the advent specials offers, so can you buy something that is out of stock?

Will CRC honour the price in a weeks time or when in stock?
I assume you have order today?

Should I / or we just take a punt on a great deal still £250 thou :?

Did anyone actually order these when it was in stock? I was looking at these wheels on CRC a while back and I think they were never in stock.

I have Boardman Team Carbon so I agree it would be a massive upgrade.

CiF

Squillinossett

When I spoke to him, he said that they expect them in within the next 3/4 days and will be sent out then.

And yes, at the £250 price.

Give them a call to double check as this was yest afternoon I spoke to them.

Cycling is Forever

Well I've taken a punt and ordered a set of EA90 SL from CRC.
Checkout page said card will only be charged for in stock items
If EA90 SL require another freehub for £30 it is still a bargin.

Maybe CRC will do a DA cassette at 50%off I will check their website everyday

HonestAl wrote:

If anyone wants to see what the freehub will look like after a few hundred miles let me know.

Post a pic here

If anyone receives their EA90 SL from CRC update here

Cif

Squillinossett

CiF, glad that im not the only one taking a punt, like you said, £30 still works out at £280 a pair, silly cheap.

Plus ebay the old hub, get £15, and even better!

HonestAl

As requested, the offending freehub. It doesn't look too horrific but given I've probably only done 500 miles on them since new it doesn't bode well.



As was pointed out yesterday though the Easton site makes it clear that they're DA only - which I didn't read before buying them - sadly the CRC site didn't indicate any restriction when I bought them. I sent this pic to CRC who agreed the wear was excessive for the amount of use, and being as customer friendly as they are, are quite prepared to replace it on the basis that they'd advertised them as "Shimano Compatible" without restriction. Good customer service I'd say.

I also agree that the Easton site says the default freehub for the SLs is compatible with a lot more cassettes - though CRC said differently. Still a great deal.

2alexcoo

This all seems a bit odd.

10 speed Dura-Ace, Ultegra and 105 alll share the same spline pattern and are interchangeable. So no freehub can be 'Dura-Ace only', as it will work with any of them.

The freehub in the picture is chewed up because it's made of aluminium - it would be exactly the same if a Dura-Ace cassette had been used. I've had the same issue with other aluminium freehubs (Hope Pro II and Planet-X) - it looks bad but it just makes the cassette a bit tricky to remove.

A better description for these two freehubs would be 'heavy/durable' or 'light/fragile'

Pokerface

2alexcoo wrote:

This all seems a bit odd.

10 speed Dura-Ace, Ultegra and 105 alll share the same spline pattern and are interchangeable. So no freehub can be 'Dura-Ace only', as it will work with any of them.

The freehub in the picture is chewed up because it's made of aluminium - it would be exactly the same if a Dura-Ace cassette had been used. I've had the same issue with other aluminium freehubs (Hope Pro II and Planet-X) - it looks bad but it just makes the cassette a bit tricky to remove.

A better description for these two freehubs would be 'heavy/durable' or 'light/fragile'

OK - found this info in another post. Info by Andy_Wrx:

Let's see if Sheldon explains it any better than I can
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html#10

Basically, when Shimano went 10sp, they increased the size of the splines - the grooved bits all chewed-up on that freehub.

That meant that the spline grooves on the 10sp Shimano cassettes are slightly deeper to fit, as shown with the micrometer picture.

I don't know for sure, but am assuming from the comments on a number of threads on here, that SRAM 10sp splines are still the shorther ones like Shimano 8 or 9sp

So if the Easton hub is termed Shimano 8/9/10sp-fit, you can fit Shimano 8sp, 9sp or 10sp cassettes to it, or SRAM 10sp as well

But if it's Shimano 10sp-only fit, with the higher splines, you can only fit a Shimano 10sp cassette to it.

Pokerface

HonestAl wrote:

As requested, the offending freehub. It doesn't look too horrific but given I've probably only done 500 miles on them since new it doesn't bode well.



As was pointed out yesterday though the Easton site makes it clear that they're DA only - which I didn't read before buying them - sadly the CRC site didn't indicate any restriction when I bought them. I sent this pic to CRC who agreed the wear was excessive for the amount of use, and being as customer friendly as they are, are quite prepared to replace it on the basis that they'd advertised them as "Shimano Compatible" without restriction. Good customer service I'd say.

I also agree that the Easton site says the default freehub for the SLs is compatible with a lot more cassettes - though CRC said differently. Still a great deal.

I just came across your post of Oct 2 - where you were saying how easy it was to put that Ultegra cassette on. In fairness - you DID say you'd let us know in time how it turned out.

2alexcoo

Pokerface wrote:

OK - found this info in another post. Info by Andy_Wrx:

Let's see if Sheldon explains it any better than I can
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html#10

Basically, when Shimano went 10sp, they increased the size of the splines - the grooved bits all chewed-up on that freehub.

That meant that the spline grooves on the 10sp Shimano cassettes are slightly deeper to fit, as shown with the micrometer picture.

I don't know for sure, but am assuming from the comments on a number of threads on here, that SRAM 10sp splines are still the shorther ones like Shimano 8 or 9sp

So if the Easton hub is termed Shimano 8/9/10sp-fit, you can fit Shimano 8sp, 9sp or 10sp cassettes to it, or SRAM 10sp as well

But if it's Shimano 10sp-only fit, with the higher splines, you can only fit a Shimano 10sp cassette to it.

Exactly - a hub can be 10-speed only, but any Shimano 10 speed, not just Dura-Ace.

I'm convinced all the Shimano 10-speed stuff is interchangeable - I'm running a 105 cassette on a 7800 Dura-Ace hub, for example. The Shimano techdocs site says the new 7900 cassettes will still fit 9-speed hubs, which suggests that they haven't changed either.

Pokerface

2alexcoo wrote:

Pokerface wrote:

OK - found this info in another post. Info by Andy_Wrx:

Let's see if Sheldon explains it any better than I can
http://www.sheldonbrown.com/dura-ace.html#10

Basically, when Shimano went 10sp, they increased the size of the splines - the grooved bits all chewed-up on that freehub.

That meant that the spline grooves on the 10sp Shimano cassettes are slightly deeper to fit, as shown with the micrometer picture.

I don't know for sure, but am assuming from the comments on a number of threads on here, that SRAM 10sp splines are still the shorther ones like Shimano 8 or 9sp

So if the Easton hub is termed Shimano 8/9/10sp-fit, you can fit Shimano 8sp, 9sp or 10sp cassettes to it, or SRAM 10sp as well

But if it's Shimano 10sp-only fit, with the higher splines, you can only fit a Shimano 10sp cassette to it.

Exactly - a hub can be 10-speed only, but any Shimano 10 speed, not just Dura-Ace.

I'm convinced all the Shimano 10-speed stuff is interchangeable - I'm running a 105 cassette on a 7800 Dura-Ace hub, for example. The Shimano techdocs site says the new 7900 cassettes will still fit 9-speed hubs, which suggests that they haven't changed either.

These specific freehubs from Easton are designed for the 10-speed Dura Ace cassettes ONLY. The ones in question are NOT interchangeable with other Shimano 10-speed cassettes.

They DO make another freehub that suits various different Shimano 10-speed cassettes.

You'd have to contact Easton to find out why this is. It's beyond my comprehension - but as HonestAl can testify - it IS correct

STEFANOS4784

Pokerface wrote:

HonestAl wrote:

As requested, the offending freehub. It doesn't look too horrific but given I've probably only done 500 miles on them since new it doesn't bode well.



As was pointed out yesterday though the Easton site makes it clear that they're DA only - which I didn't read before buying them - sadly the CRC site didn't indicate any restriction when I bought them. I sent this pic to CRC who agreed the wear was excessive for the amount of use, and being as customer friendly as they are, are quite prepared to replace it on the basis that they'd advertised them as "Shimano Compatible" without restriction. Good customer service I'd say.

I also agree that the Easton site says the default freehub for the SLs is compatible with a lot more cassettes - though CRC said differently. Still a great deal.

I just came across your post of Oct 2 - where you were saying how easy it was to put that Ultegra cassette on. In fairness - you DID say you'd let us know in time how it turned out.

Bump, and also it doesn't look that bad :?