FFS! Will the bike stop costing me money!

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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    JonGinge wrote:
    most of that is stuff you can repair or replace with cheaper for winter. a broken zip is not hard to replace, you can buy training tires for £20 a pair.

    plus as LIT says learning how to do stuff. why does the bike need a service? i'd take a bike in for a bottom bracket but not for brakes or gears unless it foxed me in which case I'd tak it in for that bit.
    Even bottom brackets are ok so long as you have the tools and the confidence. Again, building up a store of tools takes a while... then rebuilding the cache when the spec on components change :x

    I have a bike specific tool box. Most demanding thing I did was replace the freehub body on my Fulcrums.

    I do some repairs not all. Not yet.
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  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    he woman in the Griffin uses your pump for one of her routines, you should ask her about it and demand the rest of your stuff back!

    :lol:

    I had actually been in the Griffin on one of those nights!
  • prawny
    prawny Posts: 5,440
    JonGinge wrote:
    most of that is stuff you can repair or replace with cheaper for winter. a broken zip is not hard to replace, you can buy training tires for £20 a pair.

    plus as LIT says learning how to do stuff. why does the bike need a service? i'd take a bike in for a bottom bracket but not for brakes or gears unless it foxed me in which case I'd tak it in for that bit.
    Even bottom brackets are ok so long as you have the tools and the confidence. Again, building up a store of tools takes a while... then rebuilding the cache when the spec on components change :x

    +1

    I've not taken my bike into a shop since it's 6 week service, it's running fine 4000 odd miles later (some of them were very odd) although you live in a flat don't you DDD? I wouldn't try any bike maintenance in my house with the wife about :shock: *shudder*

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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Sewinman wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    he woman in the Griffin uses your pump for one of her routines, you should ask her about it and demand the rest of your stuff back!

    :lol:

    I had actually been in the Griffin on one of those nights!

    I planning to, sometime next week after work.
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  • Sewinman
    Sewinman Posts: 2,131
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Sewinman wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    he woman in the Griffin uses your pump for one of her routines, you should ask her about it and demand the rest of your stuff back!

    :lol:

    I had actually been in the Griffin on one of those nights!

    I planning to, sometime next week after work.

    Sometimes its fun, but last time i felt like that guy from 'The Crying Game' afterwards - just wanted to sit in the shower and scrub myself :)
  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    edited November 2009
    prawny wrote:
    I wouldn't try any bike maintenance in my house with the wife about :shock: *shudder*

    .

    MTFU man, get that bike stand in the kitchen and bolt the vice to the kitchen worktop. Women love that sort of thing.
  • turnerjohn
    turnerjohn Posts: 1,069
    JonGinge wrote:
    Don't hate me for saying this but you need more kit. Doesn't have to be expensive but rotation means they last longer. The white Altura, that's the rain cape yes? Not really designed to be an everyday jacket.

    Edit: fix the bag, fix the bag, fix the bag ;)

    +1 to all that. I've never worn out a pair of bike shoes, but then I have 5.

    +2 ...have a pair of Shimano M320's that I use for commuting (now) and simply refuse to die !
    Man you must be super hard on your kit .... or do you ride through/past a chemical works per-chance?!
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    prawny wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    most of that is stuff you can repair or replace with cheaper for winter. a broken zip is not hard to replace, you can buy training tires for £20 a pair.

    plus as LIT says learning how to do stuff. why does the bike need a service? i'd take a bike in for a bottom bracket but not for brakes or gears unless it foxed me in which case I'd tak it in for that bit.
    Even bottom brackets are ok so long as you have the tools and the confidence. Again, building up a store of tools takes a while... then rebuilding the cache when the spec on components change :x

    +1

    I've not taken my bike into a shop since it's 6 week service, it's running fine 4000 odd miles later (some of them were very odd) although you live in a flat don't you DDD? I wouldn't try any bike maintenance in my house with the wife about :shock: *shudder*

    I love my garage.

    She's surpiringly OK with it, too a point. But oil on the carpet upsets me.
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    JonGinge wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    Don't hate me for saying this but you need more kit. Doesn't have to be expensive but rotation means they last longer. The white Altura, that's the rain cape yes? Not really designed to be an everyday jacket.

    Edit: fix the bag, fix the bag, fix the bag ;)

    +1 to all that. I've never worn out a pair of bike shoes, but then I have 5.
    Was about to say that is more than me but then I totted them up :oops:

    I've been using my Spesh BGs since June 2004. They're showing signs of wear, sure, but they should last a longer than normal shoes given that they don't touch the floor anywhere near as often. They're super comfy. They're a bit like an old teddy bear.
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  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I went into Condor yesterday, making mental notes of all the stuff I was going to buy, it was going to be momentus (for me anyway).

    Well if you will shop at Condor, your costs will be massive whatever you need :)

    My spesh BG MTB shoes are the only pair I own - I did have another pair of ebay cheapies which wore out, so by the time I got the Focus I'd already replaced the shoes. They've done 4000 miles now, and other than a) the reflective bits at the heel coming off and b) one of the fixings that holds the ratchet assembly breaking (I can't remember exactly what happened but there are two places you can attach the assembly, so I just moved it to the other and it's fine), they've done me proud.
  • tomb353
    tomb353 Posts: 196
    In theory I set aside £40 a month for bike maintenance (vs. the £150 it saves me a month on commuting). In practice its 3 or 4 larger spends per annum.

    Sourcing parts on ebay & the bargain end of the internet stores saves a lot. Touch-wood the last bike shop repair I paid for was a bottom bracket 18 months ago, and I would probably spend the money on tools and do it myself next time.

    Expenditure over last 12 months: £60 at aldi for winter clothes, £70 at bike24 for winter tyres & new cassette, £15 at Evans new chain, £20 ebay two MTB front chainrings, £35 saddle bag, approx £200 from my wife's cycle to work voucher spend on a stock of components (chain, brake cables/blocks, tyres) + new jacket.

    (this doesn't count buying the surly fixie last autumn, or plans to get a kinesis this winter, but those are long term financial investments :-)
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  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    I am getting my whole drivetrain changed - an FSA SLK Carbon crankset, KMC silver chain, Ultegra Cassette and FSA Platinum BB - for £172. Oh, and whatever the lbs charge to do it :)
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    I did put my Shimano RO85 in the washing machine a couple times, this might have been the kiss of death.

    On Friday I'm going to get the Specialised BG shoes with new cleats, a new jacket - nothing too expensive and gloves, no matter what. I'll also get my bag repaired.

    As for my bike, I'll get brake pads, (the rest should hold out) and then get it fixed proper during the X-mas break, ready for SCR 2010.

    I'd do the lot in one go but I've got X-mas to think about.

    I think I'm going to return to buying one/two items of kit a month.
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  • will3
    will3 Posts: 2,173
    Do none of you have a man to personally fettle your bike so that it is always in tip top condition?

    Coz my wife does :lol:
  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    Hey DDD,

    It does sound like a shot of retail therapy is required, or Wiggleitis.

    For shoes, probably the one piece of kit really worth spending money on, I bought some cheap Diadora MTB shoes - they were rubbish, hurt my feet and lasted a year, I use expensive Sidi road shoes, they have been fine for the last 3 years and show no sign of wear.

    As for bikes - learn to repair yourself and apply "make do" fixes until things get real bad. Running a fixie is really the only solution to wear and low maint. Plenty of cleaning and lubing has probably saved me a fortune in maint and pre-empting issues (i.e. noticing a small issue and fixing it before it gets expensive!)

    Clothing - well, you get what you pay for, generally.

    Ultimately, if you enjoy it and you want to look the part - everything will cost you money! You could own a BMW M5 right now, and that would be costing you a fortune (you may already own one!), as long as you enjoy it you will pay for it.

    And now back to my shed where I will be wire wooling/cleaning up some old track wheels for racing!
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Thanks GTV.

    I'm generally gettting the idea:

    Spend a little more for better quality stuff - especially as I'm riding longer, further and more often now.

    More than one pair of shoes and kit for everything (except helmet - that's excessive).

    DIY repairs.

    Fixie/single speed would help.
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  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    DDD, what I do in the kit stakes is basically keep an eye on the main cycling web retailers and regularly peruse their sale sections. As a result, I have a host of tops and jackets by Cannondale, Descente (my favourite), Castelli and Giordana, all of which are a certain level of quality and which, on average, cost me about 50% less than RRP.

    It did mean I bought two hardcore winter jackets in June or whatever, but that's not a problem, especially as I saved over £150 off the recommended combined price.

    I should also add that I have bought at least one pup - the Shimano tights I bought are fine quality but way too big - but my hit rate is much higher than is has been with the real cheap stuff. Having said that, my favourite legwear full stop has been DHB Merston - currently £73 for 1 x 2010 bib tights plus 1 x 2010 3/4 tights - so there is good, cheaper stuff out there - don't give up!
  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    @DDD condor had these on sale for £80 last time I was in there, a week or so ago

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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    itboffin wrote:
    @DDD condor had these on sale for £80 last time I was in there, a week or so ago

    sidi-terra-mtb-shoe-white-lucido-46320.jpg

    Saw the 'white' window display!

    Do you know how close I came to buying them and then I realised you can't fit SPD-SL to the feet. You can't can you? They also had the World champion road shoes on sale. Previously I said they were ugly. In the flesh. Me wanty...
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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I realised you can't fit SPD-SL to the feet.

    Why would you want to? SPD-SL = Yuck.
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I realised you can't fit SPD-SL to the feet.

    Why would you want to? SPD-SL = Yuck.

    I like them. Not a SPD or speedpay person myself.
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  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I realised you can't fit SPD-SL to the feet.

    Why would you want to? SPD-SL = Yuck.

    I like them. Not a SPD or speedpay person myself.

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  • hells
    hells Posts: 175
    I have had the same shimano spd wsd shoes since 2005 with the original cleats. They are still working fine and have been in the washing machine thanks to my mum. they have been used every day both on and off road, used for cx, road and mtb rides. The colour has faded and they always look alittle grubby becuase I ncant be arsed to clean them properly. They only cost about £50. What shoes have you been using? I think mtb ones and cleats are more hardwaring. Clothing wise I still have all the same jerseys (rrp around £40) But have had to replace shorts after ripping them (mtb related off on gravel path) I only buy in the sales. Gloves seem to fall apart after 6 months-1 year.

    Maintainace wise the mtb needs work done more regularily than my other bikes. I take them to the shops becuase I don't know how to do most maintainance.
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  • Clever Pun
    Clever Pun Posts: 6,778
    biondino wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I went into Condor yesterday, making mental notes of all the stuff I was going to buy, it was going to be momentus (for me anyway).

    Well if you will shop at Condor, your costs will be massive whatever you need :)

    My spesh BG MTB shoes are the only pair I own - I did have another pair of ebay cheapies which wore out, so by the time I got the Focus I'd already replaced the shoes. They've done 4000 miles now, and other than a) the reflective bits at the heel coming off and b) one of the fixings that holds the ratchet assembly breaking (I can't remember exactly what happened but there are two places you can attach the assembly, so I just moved it to the other and it's fine), they've done me proud.

    I've done something like 20,000 if not more in my sidi's, I've replaced the closing ratchet (£5) and the velcro is a little tired but other than that they're still going strong. I could never see myself buying another make. £120ish years ago might seem like a bit, but it's really not
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  • NGale
    NGale Posts: 1,866
    I reckon with what I have saved in the cost of fuel for my car I have spent on bits for my bike.

    At the moment I need a winter jacket for my commute when I'm in Exeter, it's a bit wet and chilly in just my hoodie :(

    Methinks I know what I'll be asking for for christmas from CdrJake and the parents.
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    biondino wrote:
    DDD, what I do in the kit stakes is basically keep an eye on the main cycling web retailers and regularly peruse their sale sections. As a result, I have a host of tops and jackets by Cannondale, Descente (my favourite), Castelli and Giordana, all of which are a certain level of quality and which, on average, cost me about 50% less than RRP.

    It did mean I bought two hardcore winter jackets in June or whatever, but that's not a problem, especially as I saved over £150 off the recommended combined price.

    I should also add that I have bought at least one pup - the Shimano tights I bought are fine quality but way too big - but my hit rate is much higher than is has been with the real cheap stuff. Having said that, my favourite legwear full stop has been DHB Merston - currently £73 for 1 x 2010 bib tights plus 1 x 2010 3/4 tights - so there is good, cheaper stuff out there - don't give up!

    Solid advice thanks.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Clever Pun wrote:
    biondino wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I went into Condor yesterday, making mental notes of all the stuff I was going to buy, it was going to be momentus (for me anyway).

    Well if you will shop at Condor, your costs will be massive whatever you need :)

    My spesh BG MTB shoes are the only pair I own - I did have another pair of ebay cheapies which wore out, so by the time I got the Focus I'd already replaced the shoes. They've done 4000 miles now, and other than a) the reflective bits at the heel coming off and b) one of the fixings that holds the ratchet assembly breaking (I can't remember exactly what happened but there are two places you can attach the assembly, so I just moved it to the other and it's fine), they've done me proud.

    I've done something like 20,000 if not more in my sidi's, I've replaced the closing ratchet (£5) and the velcro is a little tired but other than that they're still going strong. I could never see myself buying another make. £120ish years ago might seem like a bit, but it's really not

    +1 what he says

    Money spent on good shoes cycling or otherwise is never wasted, I will be popping into Condor tomorrow just to be sure they DONT have my size :evil:
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
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    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • NGale
    NGale Posts: 1,866
    itboffin wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    biondino wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    I went into Condor yesterday, making mental notes of all the stuff I was going to buy, it was going to be momentus (for me anyway).

    Well if you will shop at Condor, your costs will be massive whatever you need :)

    My spesh BG MTB shoes are the only pair I own - I did have another pair of ebay cheapies which wore out, so by the time I got the Focus I'd already replaced the shoes. They've done 4000 miles now, and other than a) the reflective bits at the heel coming off and b) one of the fixings that holds the ratchet assembly breaking (I can't remember exactly what happened but there are two places you can attach the assembly, so I just moved it to the other and it's fine), they've done me proud.

    I've done something like 20,000 if not more in my sidi's, I've replaced the closing ratchet (£5) and the velcro is a little tired but other than that they're still going strong. I could never see myself buying another make. £120ish years ago might seem like a bit, but it's really not

    +1 what he says

    Money spent on good shoes cycling or otherwise is never wasted, I will be popping into Condor tomorrow just to be sure they DONT have my size :evil:

    Unfortutanly with shoes they always have my size (even though my feet are a size 8 to 9 :shock: ) the wallet takes a hit sometimes. :D
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    NGale wrote:

    Unfortutanly with shoes they always have my size (even though my feet are a size 8 to 9 :shock: ) the wallet takes a hit sometimes. :D

    I am legally no longer allowed to say things that may cause personal offence to others that I may find incredibly funny.

    I have size 8 feet. My feet are apparently small. :x
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  • NGale
    NGale Posts: 1,866
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    NGale wrote:

    Unfortutanly with shoes they always have my size (even though my feet are a size 8 to 9 :shock: ) the wallet takes a hit sometimes. :D

    I am legally no longer allowed to say things that may cause personal offence to others that I may find incredibly funny.

    I have size 8 feet. My feet are apparently small. :x

    Yes I know I have big feet for a lass, especially a lass who is only 5'4 tall.

    It means I have to buy mens cycling shoes and get very weird looks in sports shops when I buy football boots and ask for a size 9
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