Most hilly route in 40-45 miles (mcr)

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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    vorsprung wrote:
    Your so called hilly training route is 2900 ft in 48 miles or 61ft of climbing per mile

    My so called easy route to work and back that I ride most days on a single speed is 2100ft in 32 miles or 65ft of climbing per mile

    In the spring I was going to try out a hilly route...

    Well go on bikehike and draw me a hilly route in the peaks that can replace the flat route in the peaks I just drawn......
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Bhima wrote:
    Why do you want to limit it to 50 miles? Limited time to ride? You say you want to limit it to 50 miles, but as you increase the climbing, the time spent riding the 50 miles increases.

    Bhima, it's simple really, time.....

    And the time spent riding a hilly 50-70 mile also takes longer than a 45mile hilly.....
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    vorsprung wrote:
    Your so called hilly training route is 2900 ft in 48 miles or 61ft of climbing per mile

    My so called easy route to work and back that I ride most days on a single speed is 2100ft in 32 miles or 65ft of climbing per mile

    In the spring I was going to try out a hilly route...

    Can we see this route in bikehike please?
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    will...why not get the train from M'cr Picc / Stockport to Macc and then start..?

    only 10 mins and about £4 or so during the week..

    Why spend money when I can cycle out there? I just wanted a 45 miles loop, from my place, that was as hilly as possible, no faffing around with trains or anything. And the reason 45 miles, well because it takes less time than doing a 50-60+ mile ride, and I don't always want to do long rides.
  • This is a bit long but it's seems to "go" quite quickly.

    www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?id=26737

    You can cut out part of the A62 by going up mount road instead, it's fairly steep and long.

    Hopefully the link works, I don't have a bikehike account yet!
  • Fungus's route is a good one. "Nont Sarah's" (aka Buckstones) is my commute - and I can attest that whilst its not the most challenging hill around (though pretty tough after the climb from Slaithwaite), it is if there's anything more than a light breeze. The road over to Holmfirth is a classic, but be aware that traffic can be pretty fast on that one. The Marsden road (A62) makes a good alternative (my choice home if the weather is bad - you're not exposed for as long). I avoid the Holmfirth road unless its an early hour on a weekend.
  • www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?id=26742

    A better rout the the peaks, saves those awful roundabouts :)
  • iain_j
    iain_j Posts: 1,941
    4000+ ft in 51 miles and not far beyond the M60:

    www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?id=26744

    Did this went a c0ck-up on the trains left me at Piccadilly having missed my connection out to Glossop. Bloody trains.

    Someone from Manchester (ie. you) could probably find a more pleasant way out of and back into the city centre.

    Edit: why does bikeradar find the word for a male chicken offensive :P
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Decided to do this tomorrow.

    It's got one pretty hard climb in and it's where I know, I'll try the other routes out if someone will come with me, but I don't fancy trying routes that go on uber busy roads on my own.

    www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?id=26772
  • freehub wrote:
    will...why not get the train from M'cr Picc / Stockport to Macc and then start..?

    only 10 mins and about £4 or so during the week..

    Why spend money when I can cycle out there? I just wanted a 45 miles loop, from my place, that was as hilly as possible, no faffing around with trains or anything. And the reason 45 miles, well because it takes less time than doing a 50-60+ mile ride, and I don't always want to do long rides.

    fair enough.....

    my only reason for suggesting a train was that your route, starting from central manchester will inevitably contain 20+ miles of flat due to the geography of the surrounding surburb area.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    I take it everyone knows that the bikehike ascent figures aren't to be believed?
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  • amaferanga wrote:
    I take it everyone knows that the bikehike ascent figures aren't to be believed?

    What is then? The answer's not GPS alone - I wish I had a quid for every time I've heard a story about how people have climbed 200ft during an hour turbo session! So long as you use the same mapping program each time then that's good enough IMO, but comparing different rides on different mapping programs is indeed pointless.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    I don't know what to believe really, when I do the route my GPS usually shows that I've done more climbing than bikehike said there was.
  • freehub wrote:
    I don't know what to believe really, when I do the route my GPS usually shows that I've done more climbing than bikehike said there was.

    When I've gone to the trouble of working out the amount of climb on a fell-run by the old-fashioned method of looking at an OS map, I usually find that bikehike will give a slightly lower figure then, too. Tbh I don't think it's that important to know the real figure; if I found that a route with 4000ft according to bikehike in fact had 4300ft...what am I supposed to do with that information? Bikehike's good for getting an idea of the relative amount of climb - you know that IainJ's 4000ft route will have about a third more climb than your current 3000ft one, which is what you were after!
  • the numbers on bike hike are fine for comparing with other routes on bike hike.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    I've saved iain_j's route in my routes on bikehike, I plan to ride it sometime.
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    nasahapley wrote:
    amaferanga wrote:
    I take it everyone knows that the bikehike ascent figures aren't to be believed?

    What is then? The answer's not GPS alone - I wish I had a quid for every time I've heard a story about how people have climbed 200ft during an hour turbo session! So long as you use the same mapping program each time then that's good enough IMO, but comparing different rides on different mapping programs is indeed pointless.

    Yep I use bike hike to compare my rides, but people seem to be using bikehike to define a hilly ride.

    My GPS normally gives a figure significantly less than bikehike for hilly rides in the Peaks.

    Neither take into account the ride itself anyway. A ride with constant 10 metre bumps might suggest a tough ride from the ascent figure, but the reality might be that you barely even cycled up any of the bumps.
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  • iain_j
    iain_j Posts: 1,941
    freehub wrote:
    I've saved iain_j's route in my routes on bikehike, I plan to ride it sometime.

    It's loads of fun when there's ice on the roads :D

    I took the A57 all the way out of Manchester as I was intending to cross the Snake Pass but by the time I got there I wouldn't have the time to do the full route I had in mind, so I turned round and pootled round Hayfield and Chapel instead. If I'd gone out with this route in mind I'd have avoided the A57 beyond the city centre, especially through Hyde and Mottram. Lots of scope for adding more climbs too without much more distance.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Kool, hopefully it'll be a good ride to add to my list :D

    I've noticed a problem, which will make ascent and or decent readings massivly inaccurate, in the city center the garmin reads elevation weird, like -15% and even 50% gradient lol.

    I did this 45 mile loop today instead of the one above, and it was pretty tough, some pretty steep climbs combined with the wind made it real hard work.


    Infact, if you look at the splits:

    http://connect.garmin.com/splits/19541705

    The last 1.8 miles sends the GPS wappy, I'm going to have to turn it off before I enter the city center. I'm pretty sure there was more than 1126ft of elevation in that split and more in other splits.


    www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?id=26797

    That's the route, so the actual reading is just abit higher on the Garmin, but the readins on the garmin seem incorrect. Then again, looking at the elvation chart, it looks almost similar to the profile on bikehike.

    Makes me feel unfit though, if I only did 1000 odd ft of climbing, the climbs where pretty tough I though :(
  • a_n_t
    a_n_t Posts: 2,011
    www.bikehike.co.uk/mapview.php?id=26812

    to/from gateway, 42 miles, 4300ft. :wink:
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Cheers, I might do that Saturday 8)

    Is the loop main bit of the loop clockwise or anticlockwise tho?
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    freehub wrote:
    Cheers, I might do that Saturday 8)

    Is the loop main bit of the loop clockwise or anticlockwise tho?

    You leading?

    You should put it up on the Wheelers ride list.
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Not long enough for a club ride. Have to add like 20 miles to it. I might lead a ride, most likely no one will turn up but we'll see.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    42miles is easily enough for a club run. I actually seem to think quite a few people like the shorter hillier rides.

    Saying it's too short is just a cop out IMO.
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Well anyone who turns up I'll have to tell them I don't know of any cafe stop on the way, so unless they know, it's cafe stopless.
  • a_n_t
    a_n_t Posts: 2,011
    freehub wrote:
    Cheers, I might do that Saturday 8)

    Is the loop main bit of the loop clockwise or anticlockwise tho?


    anti-clockwise, you get to go down monks rd ;)

    and you wont need to stop for 42 miles.
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    I might do it one week then, already rides on, chaingang on saturday then one of the 2 rides on sunday.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Will, If you are leading a club run:

    -A club run can be as long as you want
    -A cafe stop is optional.
    -It can even be at whatever pace you specify

    You always seem to want people to ride with, so I don't know why you won't offer to lead rides for the Wheelers, then you get to choose the route and get people to come with you.
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Will, If you are leading a club run:

    -A club run can be as long as you want
    -A cafe stop is optional.
    -It can even be at whatever pace you specify

    You always seem to want people to ride with, so I don't know why you won't offer to lead rides for the Wheelers, then you get to choose the route and get people to come with you.

    There is already 1 ride on saturday (chaingang) and I know that usually has a large turnout, and then 2 rides on sunday.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Do one next week then
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