It's Campag not Campy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Escargot

jrduquemin wrote:

I sure as hell won't be losing any sleep over it. What does get my goat is people who spend a fortune on a spangly italian bike (Pinarello etc) then put bloody Shimano on it!! ARGH!!!

:shock:

Now that's outrageous, diluting the purity of a thoroughbred Italian brand.

That would be like putting a German in charge of a company like Alfa Romeo or Lamborghini. What sacriledge would it be if they ever decided to put an Audi engine in an Italian car..........................................oh s#it

Chip \'oyler

Mmm what components to buy?

Soulless equipment from a fishing tackle specialist or equipment with soul running through it's veins and the history to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are an emotional buyer (Campag) or a rational buyer (Shimano)

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our club. It's worse than turning up without mudguards on a winter run.

redddraggon

Chip \'oyler wrote:

It boils down to whether you are an emotional buyer (Campag) or a rational buyer (Shimano)

I buy because of performance. IME Campag shifts better for longer. With Shimano I found that as soon as the cables got a bit dirty shifting would be crap and the indexing would go to pot, whereas the stiff Campag springs would mean no skipping.

There's no way I'd buy inferior kit because of emotion. I buy what works the best.

will3

Do fishermen sneer at Shimano tackle coz they also make bike bits?

proto

Chip \'oyler wrote:

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our club. It's worse than turning up without mudguards on a winter run.

Back on track, thankyou. Your club obviously knows what it is doing.

This is not a Shimano bashing thread, I really don't care what equipment you buy. It all works well. Note that my new time trial bike has a Campag Centaur U/T chainset, Dura Ace bar end shifters, Ultegra rear mech, SRAM Force front mech, and a disc wheel with a Campag splined free hub. It's all great stuff.

Wheelspinner

There are three cars parked in the lot, doors open, keys dangling in the ignition. On the far left, a Corvette something or other. Fast. Efficient. Dull as dishwater. On the right is a Nissan GTR, or perhaps a holographic avatar from a Play Station game. Who can tell the difference? Both fabulously well engineered and very entertaining, but designed by a manga comic artist on some really dodgy fugu.

Front and centre is a Maserati Gran Turismo coupe.

Pick one.

Anonymous

Wheelspinner wrote:

There are three cars parked in the lot, doors open, keys dangling in the ignition. On the far left, a Corvette something or other. Fast. Efficient. Dull as dishwater. On the right is a Nissan GTR, or perhaps a holographic avatar from a Play Station game. Who can tell the difference? Both fabulously well engineered and very entertaining, but designed by a manga comic artist on some really dodgy fugu.

Front and centre is a Maserati Gran Turismo coupe.

Pick one.

The Volvo.

will3

Wheelspinner wrote:

There are three cars parked in the lot, doors open, keys dangling in the ignition. On the far left, a Corvette something or other. Fast. Efficient. Dull as dishwater. On the right is a Nissan GTR, or perhaps a holographic avatar from a Play Station game. Who can tell the difference? Both fabulously well engineered and very entertaining, but designed by a manga comic artist on some really dodgy fugu.

Front and centre is a Maserati Gran Turismo coupe.

Pick one.

You don't give enought information. Do they all take roof bars?

bompington

Chip \'oyler wrote:

Mmm what components to buy?

Soulless equipment from a fishing tackle specialist or equipment with soul running through it's veins and the history to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are an emotional buyer (Campag) or a rational buyer (Shimano)

These are good arguments for buying an Alfa Romeo instead of a Honda... providing you don't whinge when it keeps on breaking down.
Presumably a rear mech with a soul should be able to empathetically sense when you're strugglling & shift down for you.

Chip \'oyler

proto wrote:

Chip \'oyler wrote:

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our club. It's worse than turning up without mudguards on a winter run.

Back on track, thankyou. Your club obviously knows what it is doing.

This is not a Shimano bashing thread, I really don't care what equipment you buy. It all works well. Note that my new time trial bike has a Campag Centaur U/T chainset, Dura Ace bar end shifters, Ultegra rear mech, SRAM Force front mech, and a disc wheel with a Campag splined free hub. It's all great stuff.

You have a staunch ally Proto. I dont know why but the word 'Campy' really makes my blood boil. If the Septic Tanks want to use the word fair enough - but when Brits start using it! Fook me!

And the reason! I blame it on Sportive's - people are bypassing the old cycling club culture and just turning up to do these glorified club runs on their own. They're missing out on the many years of British Cycling culture and not learning how to ride a bike - never mind how to pronounce bloody equipment!

And another word that gets my goat - FIXIE!

It a fooking FIXED BIKE or your riding FIXED - not fixie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Chip \'oyler

bompington wrote:

Chip \'oyler wrote:

Mmm what components to buy?

Soulless equipment from a fishing tackle specialist or equipment with soul running through it's veins and the history to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are an emotional buyer (Campag) or a rational buyer (Shimano)

These are good arguments for buying an Alfa Romeo instead of a Honda... providing you don't whinge when it keeps on breaking down.
Presumably a rear mech with a soul should be able to empathetically sense when you're strugglling & shift down for you.

I've had Alfa's all my life. And not one has broken down. And everyone of them put a smile on my face when I drove them.

Can't say the same about my current Passat. Great car but soulless

Wheelspinner

will3 wrote:

Wheelspinner wrote:

There are three cars parked in the lot, doors open, keys dangling in the ignition. On the far left, a Corvette something or other. Fast. Efficient. Dull as dishwater. On the right is a Nissan GTR, or perhaps a holographic avatar from a Play Station game. Who can tell the difference? Both fabulously well engineered and very entertaining, but designed by a manga comic artist on some really dodgy fugu.

Front and centre is a Maserati Gran Turismo coupe.

Pick one.

You don't give enought information. Do they all take roof bars?

I'm sure Chevrolet have an optional attachment for the gun racks that will also hold a bike, and I'd guess Nissan could provide you with a 37-function multi-purpose piece of collapsible scaffolding that doubles as a rear windscreen wiper when you don't have the bikes attached to it.

The Italians will ask if you'd prefer your bike's custom carbon cradle shaped to suit clincher or tubular tyres.

Mister W

will3 wrote:

Do fishermen sneer at Shimano tackle coz they also make bike bits?

No, they sneer at Shimano tackle 'cos it's sh1t.




Yes, I sit next to a fisherman at work. Nice guy but a bit dull

daviesee

hopper1 wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

daviesee wrote:

hopper1 wrote:

Personally, I have both SRAM and Shimano.
I much prefer the SRAM kit.
Campagnolo is a non starter for me, until they get rid of those thumb operated ERGOlevers! :shock: :shock: :shock:


Pure shite!

Funny,

The thumb operated levers are what sold it to me

If we all liked the same there would be no competition, and that wouldn't be good.

Roll on the "there is no competition" comments :roll:

Then you could have saved a packet and bought Sora ;D

+1....

I'm loving this thread

And I could have saved even more by getting a Focus :roll:

Some things are just not about the money 8)

hopper1

daviesee wrote:

hopper1 wrote:

NapoleonD wrote:

daviesee wrote:

hopper1 wrote:

Personally, I have both SRAM and Shimano.
I much prefer the SRAM kit.
Campagnolo is a non starter for me, until they get rid of those thumb operated ERGOlevers! :shock: :shock: :shock:


Pure shite!

Funny,

The thumb operated levers are what sold it to me

If we all liked the same there would be no competition, and that wouldn't be good.

Roll on the "there is no competition" comments :roll:

Then you could have saved a packet and bought Sora ;D

+1....

I'm loving this thread

And I could have saved even more by getting a Focus :roll:

Some things are just not about the money 8)

Heartily agree...

God only knows why I traded my Alfa for a Touareg!... :shock:

Pross

Mister W wrote:

will3 wrote:

Do fishermen sneer at Shimano tackle coz they also make bike bits?

No, they sneer at Shimano tackle 'cos it's sh1t.




Yes, I sit next to a fisherman at work. Nice guy but a bit dull

Not in my experience. Many anglers appreciate the reliability of the well made gearing as you don't want to lose that 15lb barbel as a result of the gears breaking down.

Then again there are others who prefer Abu Garcia kit as it has more 'soul' and is also very reliable. You can also chuck in American upstarts Penn. Sound familiar anyone?

pickled

Chip \'oyler wrote:

I've had Alfa's all my life. And not one has broken down. And everyone of them put a smile on my face when I drove them.

Can't say the same about my current Passat. Great car but soulless

You've never owned an Alfa Sud Sprint or a 33 then!

Alfa's reputation doesn't really come from its more recent cars.

daviesee

pickled wrote:

Chip \'oyler wrote:

I've had Alfa's all my life. And not one has broken down. And everyone of them put a smile on my face when I drove them.

Can't say the same about my current Passat. Great car but soulless

You've never owned an Alfa Sud Sprint or a 33 then!

Alfa's reputation doesn't really come from its more recent cars.

My Dad had an Alfa Sud.

Stopped at the lights and the engine fell out :shock:

Still his favourite car ever though

dennisn

Chip \'oyler wrote:

Mmm what components to buy?

Soulless equipment from a fishing tackle specialist or equipment with soul running through it's veins and the history to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are an emotional buyer (Campag) or a rational buyer (Shimano)

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our club. It's worse than turning up without mudguards on a winter run.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. In one sentence you call Shimano "fishing tackle" and in the next you say that a "rational buyer" would buy Shimano. I'm confused, as usual. :? :?

Anonymous

Pah. Japan has even been nuked and still makes better components than Campy. style.

Chip \'oyler

dennisn wrote:

Chip \'oyler wrote:

Mmm what components to buy?

Soulless equipment from a fishing tackle specialist or equipment with soul running through it's veins and the history to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are an emotional buyer (Campag) or a rational buyer (Shimano)

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our club. It's worse than turning up without mudguards on a winter run.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. In one sentence you call Shimano "fishing tackle" and in the next you say that a "rational buyer" would buy Shimano. I'm confused, as usual. :? :?

OK I'll rewrite it for our friends across the pond:

Soulless equipy from a fishing apparatus specialist or equipy with soul running through it's obese arteries and the history (sorry can't replace this word as your country is only 100 years old) to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are a democrat (Campy) or a republican (Shimy)

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our franchise. It's worse than turning up without fenders on a winter run

Does that make sense now?

Chip \'oyler

pickled wrote:

Chip \'oyler wrote:

I've had Alfa's all my life. And not one has broken down. And everyone of them put a smile on my face when I drove them.

Can't say the same about my current Passat. Great car but soulless

You've never owned an Alfa Sud Sprint or a 33 then!

Alfa's reputation doesn't really come from its more recent cars.

Funnily enough I have

dennisn

Chip \'oyler wrote:

dennisn wrote:

Chip \'oyler wrote:

Mmm what components to buy?

Soulless equipment from a fishing tackle specialist or equipment with soul running through it's veins and the history to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are an emotional buyer (Campag) or a rational buyer (Shimano)

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our club. It's worse than turning up without mudguards on a winter run.

I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. In one sentence you call Shimano "fishing tackle" and in the next you say that a "rational buyer" would buy Shimano. I'm confused, as usual. :? :?

OK I'll rewrite it for our friends across the pond:

Soulless equipy from a fishing apparatus specialist or equipy with soul running through it's obese arteries and the history (sorry can't replace this word as your country is only 100 years old) to back it up.

It boils down to whether you are a democrat (Campy) or a republican (Shimy)

BTW - nobody is allowed to use the word Campy in our franchise. It's worse than turning up without fenders on a winter run

Does that make sense now?

I think I follow you now. You're saying that, either way, it's bad stuff, because I sure don't see any difference between Republicans and Democrats other than a name. Sort of a Ford and a Chevy thing.

Ollieda

Where's proto gone? this topic is starting to lose its vibe! Obviously his a bit busy with his job as the OED grand chief!

I'm going to mix it up a bit now and admit that I say campy, campag, campagnolo, it doesn't matter sometimes I say one, sometimes I say another.

Call it what you want, it might annoy some people but it doesn't make you better or worse at cycling!

proto

Ollieda wrote:

Call it what you want, it might annoy some people but it doesn't make you better or worse at cycling!

You poor, simple minded fool. Cycling isn't about putting your fecking feet on pedals and pushing down (or pulling up if you've got them there new fangled 'rat traps' and toe clips) and getting all sweaty. It's so much more than that. It's about passion, life, death, style, cameraderie, and tradition. And the tradition in our fair land is that you call it fecking CAMPAG.

I'm not going to attempt to convince you all with linguistics, logic, or what they might or might not say in Mexico City. I don't fecking care. The English speaking world (and that does not include the USA) says CAMPAG


'Campy' (yuck, I feel dirty now) really boils my p*ss. I hate it. Fecking hate it. It's CAMPAG. It's creeping into our lives and it will be stopped. If I ever see it in C+, I'm off to Cycling Weakly and will not return.

Editor Jeff Jones, I know where you live. Remember that!

Chip \'oyler

proto wrote:

Ollieda wrote:

Call it what you want, it might annoy some people but it doesn't make you better or worse at cycling!

You poor, simple minded fool. Cycling isn't about putting your fecking feet on pedals and pushing down (or pulling up if you've got them there new fangled 'rat traps' and toe clips) and getting all sweaty. It's so much more than that. It's about passion, life, death, style, cameraderie, and tradition. And the tradition in our fair land is that you call it fecking CAMPAG.

I'm not going to attempt to convince you all with linguistics, logic, or what they might or might not say in Mexico City. I don't fecking care. The English speaking world (and that does not include the USA) says CAMPAG


'Campy' (yuck, I feel dirty now) really boils my p*ss. I hate it. Fecking hate it. It's CAMPAG. It's creeping into our lives and it will be stopped. If I ever see it in C+, I'm off to Cycling Weakly and will not return.

Editor Jeff Jones, I know where you live. Remember that!

What are your thoughts on the word 'fixie' then?

Ollieda

I knew I would draw a reaction.......I shall now increase my use of the word campy.

Oh and I call it a "fixie" too!

rake

proto

Ollieda wrote:

I knew I would draw a reaction.......I shall now increase my use of the word campy.

Oh and I call it a "fixie" too!

Better check your brake cables in the morning.

Couldn't give a stuff about fixed, fixie, fixed gear. But 'Campy' is just wrong.

Changed my mind. Fixie is out. Do as Rake says. Up against the wall. Want a blindfold? Last request?

Anonymous

Campy is as campy does.