My new project. Orange patriot

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  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    Paid £200 for the lyriks

    Was looking at few on ebay and they all seemed to be going for £350 ish

    I am building it up with the mega in mind, but as I can't afford to have 2 bikes I'll just have to see how it works out for the peak district

    Probably be far too much bike and heavy, but we'll see
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    good buy :D

    you will struggle on the climbs that's for sure. this looks like a good bike for llandegla, bassicaly for trail centers and all mountain stuff.
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    what travel do the lyriks/frame have? probably a bit too much for the peak dsitrict...
    this is why i love my scott frame so much, it can ride almost anything, just wish i had the newer one with a little more travel.

    your seatpost is in backwards by the way :P
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  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    lyriks are 160mm but can be changed in travel depending if you have the 2 step model
  • ramemtbers
    ramemtbers Posts: 1,562
    looks nice though. :D
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    yeah, it probably will be too much for me

    I'll give it a go though, and if I'm not getting on with it I can always split it and sell it
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    just try out different places and i'm sure one of them will suit your bike
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    the climbs will be a bugger

    but it'll just make me fitter right? :P
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    yeah,of course. but what your building is an AM bike. will ride down better than up though
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    hopefully it will be coming to france with me when I holiday at my mums place next year

    its always so frikkin hot there though, usually can't be bothered pedalling ;)
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    cool. depends what part of france though
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    South coast near St Tropez

    there are a few nice hilly regions around there, but I have yet to find a map of any trails in the area
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    thats good them. i was worried you were going to try and ride it down the eiffel tower :lol:
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    i should go over there now while its a bit cooler
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    get the train over to the pyrenees, some beautiful mountains down there!
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    jay12 wrote:
    This looks like a good bike for llandegla.
    Are you FU*#!@G kidding? Llandegla? the smoothest off road trails known to man?
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    jay12 wrote:
    This looks like a good bike for llandegla.
    Are you FU*#!@G kidding? Llandegla? the smoothest off road trails known to man?
    read the bit that's just afterv :wink: :roll:
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    sorry, but
    bassicaly for trail centers and all mountain stuff.
    doesn't justify the llandegla comment.
    A Patriot, in llandegla? Sure it's rideable, but it's hardly a "good" bike fo it, is it?
    Same goes for AM stuff, really. It was a DH bike.
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    sorry, but
    bassicaly for trail centers and all mountain stuff.
    doesn't justify the llandegla comment.
    A Patriot, in llandegla? Sure it's rideable, but it's hardly a "good" bike fo it, is it?
    Same goes for AM stuff, really. It was a DH bike.

    there were different models of patriot. there was an xc one and FR too. looking as this has an air shock it would be better for AM/trail riding.

    ok so llandegla isn't the perfect place for it, i get the point.

    IMO a coil shock is much better if not neccesaery for DH riding.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    so, have you ridden DH on a coil, and on an air shock on the same bike to compare?
  • jay12
    jay12 Posts: 6,306
    so, have you ridden DH on a coil, and on an air shock on the same bike to compare?
    no but i ridden my bike which is a coil, and another bike which is air and the air shock moved on everything and felt much softer, even a bit fragile. the coil was very sturdy but didn't pick up on the smaller bumps.
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    the guy that had it before me built it as light as possible

    he used it for xc and also the mega

    I can't really afford to build it as light as he had it, but hopefully it won't be ridiculously heavy
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    jay12 wrote:
    no but i ridden my bike which is a coil, and another bike which is air and the air shock moved on everything and felt much softer, even a bit fragile. the coil was very sturdy but didn't pick up on the smaller bumps.
    That's not really a like for like comparisson though is it? Most DH bikes I've ridden have felt more compliant over small hits than any trail/AM/XC bike. It depends on the suspension design and the setup.
  • ilovedirt
    ilovedirt Posts: 5,798
    i would say that a DH bike should feel smoother over the bumps than an XC bike, you generally set the suspension up firmer and to be more efficient for pedaling for xc, so you will feel the smaller bumps more. You just might have your suspension set up wrong (jay). and no offence, but you REALLY can't judge whether you like coil or air on a bike like that... wait until you get something decent and then make your mind up. For me it's air all the way, for various reasons. Even for freeride.

    Although i wouldn't have said that patriot would ever be XC oriented in any way at all, having owned a slightly older one. It's just not practical. It would make a mean trail machine though and certainly a good freeride bike.
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  • ramemtbers
    ramemtbers Posts: 1,562
    a patriot in Llandegla. ummm i have to admit to something now. when i was in wales we had a couple of hours spare on the first day and we errr passed Llandegla. sooo we rode it. just so happens i was on the gt when i still had it. :oops: and i wished it was a hardtail soooo much. :lol:
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    well its going to be my only bike, so I'm gonna have to learn to live with it

    for a while at least
  • ramemtbers
    ramemtbers Posts: 1,562
    i bet you will get on fine.
  • paul.skibum
    paul.skibum Posts: 4,068
    Good luck witht he build and the riding - I had a patriot for a while which was built heavy as I got it off an old DH racer - Had Z150's and DH rims, hope big uns, M4s and 2.5 Maxxis tyres with DH tubes and a single ring 36 tooth set up - I have to admit it was a massive pain on any sort of climb but was a solid ride down hill.

    I put a triple on it and some lighter tyres for a while and used it for alpine xc when I had no choice and it was doable - with lighter rims and an air shock it would probably have been ok although I found it a very laid back pedal and not ideal for long clims (unsuprising) but I wish you luck - I'd aim to put nothing bigger than 2.3 folding tyres on for UK riding and try and keep the wheels light - save weight where you can!

    Good luck with the mega - I have a hankering to try it on a hardtail.....
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  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
    yeah, original plan was for light wheels but not sure I've got enough cash

    I got a mavic ex 325 on a da bomb hub for the front and its no lightweight

    looking around for a rear now
  • jools182
    jools182 Posts: 216
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    not much change since last time

    just started running the gear cables

    still need a back wheel though so I'm waiting to find on of them before putting the rear derailleur on