Someone check me into cycling rehab please

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  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Bhima wrote:
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    come up to the lakes for a weekend, i'll put you up and we can go and do the Whitton route.

    Fantastic. I'll be in touch.

    That's the sound of me not holding my breath
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

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  • Pross
    Pross Posts: 43,463
    Can't have been much of a hill to get up and down it in less than 4 minutes :lol:
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    Pross wrote:
    Can't have been much of a hill to get up and down it in less than 4 minutes :lol:

    The good thing about the hill is the varying gradient, so you can spin fast on certain sections, grind away or sprint on the drops on others, if you stay in the same gear (which I do a lot on climbs). All slightly different workouts. On any longer climbs, I tend to get into a solid rhythm, thus, holding back too much.
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    dmclite wrote:
    Bhima did you get your 50kg of honey you were after ?

    I got 75!

    disgruntledgoat - Sounds like a good idea. I've been wanting to go there for ages, you'll definately hear back from me.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Bhima, you doing any riding tomoz? I might do a short quick 20-30 miles tomoz night, around 8:30ish if ur interested. Bear in mind it wont be massivly fast as I've being loosing fitness.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    Is the hill Artist's Lane?
  • nolf
    nolf Posts: 1,287
    Bhima your post count is phenomenal.
    You've clocked up 1315 in 10 months.
    Thats more than 4 a day, every day for a year.

    Also to be honest, I'm a fairly fit rider myself, a student with loads of spare time and a hell of a lot of training. I've won a few races and got gold in loads of sportives (so good at hills).

    I've done sprint workouts/intervals (both long and short)/hill climbing, you cannot max your body out 34 times in 1 ride, nor can you hammer it up 34 climbs in 1 ride.
    Perhaps if you improved the quality of your wokouts instead of the ridiculous BS quantity you could actually compete with other people?

    Try sprinting max effort as hard as possible up the climb 6/7 times in 1 ride. Thats a workout all by itself

    I'll be honest you very much remind me a of a friend of mine. He used to exaggerate any acheivements as he was too insecure to just be who he was. Anything he did had to be outrageous and ridiculous. No-one on here is going to think worse of you (most would think better) if you came up with a more realistic training regime...
    "I hold it true, what'er befall;
    I feel it, when I sorrow most;
    'Tis better to have loved and lost;
    Than never to have loved at all."

    Alfred Tennyson
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Now it's winter is it best to just ride? Then early next year start training like intervals.
  • JC.152
    JC.152 Posts: 645
    national hilclimb and mow cop the week before closes this tuesday :wink:
  • nolf
    nolf Posts: 1,287
    freehub wrote:
    Now it's winter is it best to just ride? Then early next year start training like intervals.

    Depends on if you really need to work on your endurance base or not.
    I can afford to just keep doing workouts to push out the lactate threshold as frankly my endurance is good enough for any of the races I'm going to do.

    I imagine the same is for Bhima. 1 good lactate threshold workout a week will do him some good.
    "I hold it true, what'er befall;
    I feel it, when I sorrow most;
    'Tis better to have loved and lost;
    Than never to have loved at all."

    Alfred Tennyson
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    When I'm up to fitness on average every saturday ride is around 120 miles at home, and some are up to 180 miles, so I'd say my endurance is ok. I tend to do 30-40 mile loops pushing, at home I do a 47 mile loop, mixed, average about 20mph on that because I push hard, round here I do 18mile loops and may repeat it and try push hard.
  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    freehub wrote:
    Now it's winter is it best to just ride? Then early next year start training like intervals.

    Threshold work is an integral part of winter training. Don't neglect it, but don't over do it. A HR monitor would be useful and affordable bit of kit for you I'd guess.
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

    PTP Runner Up 2015
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    I use a HRM, some rides I try keep inbetween 155 and 165 but it's tough and when I get to a hill on a ride it just goes way over cause I want to ride and happily get up the hill. If I'm pusing I hapilly keep aorund 180.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    freehub wrote:
    I use a HRM, some rides I try keep inbetween 155 and 165 but it's tough and when I get to a hill on a ride it just goes way over cause I want to ride and happily get up the hill. If I'm pusing I hapilly keep aorund 180.

    Will, is Bhima as good as he writes ? Its just that he does get some grief on here and seems to come back for more.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    He's abit faster than me overall I think, probably more than abit now tho as I've not done much cycling in 2 weeks. I don't know when I'm having a bad day though, past months I've been having lots of bad days and sometimes I'm allot slower than normal.
  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    freehub wrote:
    I use a HRM, some rides I try keep inbetween 155 and 165 but it's tough and when I get to a hill on a ride it just goes way over cause I want to ride and happily get up the hill. If I'm pusing I hapilly keep aorund 180.

    Don't ride hills is one off the answers to riding in a specific zone.
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

    PTP Runner Up 2015
  • disgruntledgoat
    disgruntledgoat Posts: 8,957
    Very true shocked... If you're training by HR, the benefits of resisting the temptation to beast up hills and keeping things dialled down unless you have to are well worth it.

    It's counter intuitive, but i've been climbing as well as I have in 10 years the season just gone (and i've always been pretty good) and I didn't touch a decent climb from October to April.
    "In many ways, my story was that of a raging, Christ-like figure who hauled himself off the cross, looked up at the Romans with blood in his eyes and said 'My turn, sock cookers'"

    @gietvangent
  • shockedsoshocked
    shockedsoshocked Posts: 4,021
    disgruntledgoat wrote:
    Very true shocked... If you're training by HR, the benefits of resisting the temptation to beast up hills and keeping things dialled down unless you have to are well worth it.

    It's counter intuitive, but i've been climbing as well as I have in 10 years the season just gone (and i've always been pretty good) and I didn't touch a decent climb from October to April.

    Same here. Got used to riding fast and hard on the flats, and the climbing fell into place.
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

    PTP Runner Up 2015
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    I might do the same loop twice a week, but first time, do it level 1-2, second zone 2-3. But ever so often I'll alter to a different flat loop, 2-3 will enable me to be able to thrash it around. It will be a real challenge going through manchester center though keeping it in zone 1-2.
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    freehub wrote:
    He's abit faster than me overall I think.
    Well no wonder, he may be a buffoon but he gets out there and rides his bike! Going up hills 32 times a day and such. He doesn't have 2 weeks off because of a headache, that's why he's better than you.

    And I bet he trains better than most of the people ridiculing him on this thread.

    Bless him.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Infamous wrote:
    freehub wrote:
    He's abit faster than me overall I think.
    Well no wonder, he may be a buffoon but he gets out there and rides his bike! Going up hills 32 times a day and such. He doesn't have 2 weeks off because of a headache, that's why he's better than you.

    And I bet he trains better than most of the people ridiculing him on this thread.

    Bless him.

    Lol what? 2 weeks off because of a headache? Where did you pull that from? :roll:
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    The reason isn't important.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    So the point of your post is? I know 2 weeks off will degrade performance slightly, after already taking time off that is.
  • Infamous
    Infamous Posts: 1,130
    That bhima trains hard and got faster and you didn't.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Will has been doing too much Partying - I bet Bhima hasn't
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  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    Infamous wrote:
    That bhima trains hard and got faster and you didn't.

    I train hard, just suffering with my knee resulting in 0 training.
  • Slow1972
    Slow1972 Posts: 362
    Sounds like you were going up Macclesfield Road which is about .8 of a mile from the bottom to where it flattens near the layby, gradient varies up to about 10% in places but you're doing about 80-85m if climbing in that distance.

    I find it hard to believe you did 16 climbs and descents an hour for 2 hours up there, because your average speed would be 25.6 mph. But fair play to you if you did, you should definitely be doing hill climbs TTs iif you can do that sort of speed and for that many repititions.

    Anyone else ride that area who could get anywhere near climbing and descending that hill in less than 4 minutes and repeat it 32 times? You must have been averaging in the region of 350-400 Watts every time you did that climb, I don't know much about power meters but that sounds quite a lot to me...
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    To be fair, Bhima is a very good climber...

    If only he'd enter a bloody race!
  • popette
    popette Posts: 2,089
    NapoleonD wrote:
    To be fair, Bhima is a very good climber...

    If only he'd enter a bloody race!

    correct - annoyingly so.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,667
    What does 75 kg of honey look like?
    How much was all that honey ?

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