Mavic R-sys
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NapoleonD wrote:Find me 1 catastrophic failure of another wheel that was post-recall...
getting a whiff of red herring, anyone?0 -
Oooh, get you!
Look, I like Mavic wheels, I liked riding the R-Sys but for me it's about risk management. Why would I risk it when there are better wheels out there for less?0 -
NapoleonD wrote:Oooh, get you!
Look, I like Mavic wheels, I liked riding the R-Sys but for me it's about risk management. Why would I risk it when there are better wheels out there for less?
I've squandered 25 years of my life working in insurance so I eat sleep and breath Risk Management. If Mavic had EVIDENCE that any of their products were dangerous in normal use and did nothing they'd be fined out of existence in the EU and then what was left would be savaged in the US courts.0 -
Been into the LBS and he has offered them to me for £450 on the basis only he (the shop owner) has used them for the Etape this year and thats about it.
So the question isnt are they worth spending £700 - £800 on the question is at £450 are they a viable option for occasional climbing use.
I am erring on the side of "if they were really that bad we would have seen more failures by now" side of the argument.
The alternative, I guess, is i stump up another £400 and get some Fulcrum 0's or something equally without their doubters. I can buy a hell of a lot of kit for £400!!0 -
Why not get barnd new Dura Ace 7850s for £550, Or Easton EA90SLX for £540 rather than chance it with these second hand wheels?
Never ridden any, but I just don't see what makes them worth the risk?0 -
I ended up getting DA 7850s (for 454 quid)...
Gilbert, I don't care about your experience etc, I'm not going to take what I percieve to be any extra risk...0 -
So we are absolutely certain Dura Ace 7850's have never ever failed?0
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Oh sorry, should have said - need to be Campag compatable.0
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NapoleonD wrote:I ended up getting DA 7850s (for 454 quid)...
Gilbert, I don't care about your experience etc, I'm not going to take what I percieve to be any extra risk...
So prejudice over evidence then? IIRC you're a Plod. Nice to know.0 -
benji90 wrote:Oh sorry, should have said - need to be Campag compatable.
Easton EA90SLX £540, or Campag Neutron Ultras £5200 -
Gavin Gilbert wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I ended up getting DA 7850s (for 454 quid)...
Gilbert, I don't care about your experience etc, I'm not going to take what I percieve to be any extra risk...
So prejudice over evidence then? IIRC you're a Plod. Nice to know.
Steady!!!! Its only an opinion on a wheel set!!0 -
benji90 wrote:Gavin Gilbert wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I ended up getting DA 7850s (for 454 quid)...
Gilbert, I don't care about your experience etc, I'm not going to take what I percieve to be any extra risk...
So prejudice over evidence then? IIRC you're a Plod. Nice to know.
Steady!!!! Its only an opinion on a wheel set!!
Apparently it's more than that 0 -
benji90 wrote:So we are absolutely certain Dura Ace 7850's have never ever failed?
Like I said though, RSys have been recalled once for a serious problem and there is evidence of a post-recall catastrophic failure of a similar nature. That is enough to put me off...
I'm sure wheels from most manufacturers have failed at some point. The dura ace wheels were recalled once due to puncture issues...0 -
Gavin Gilbert wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I ended up getting DA 7850s (for 454 quid)...
Gilbert, I don't care about your experience etc, I'm not going to take what I percieve to be any extra risk...
So prejudice over evidence then? IIRC you're a Plod. Nice to know.
??? It's not a court of law, it's a shopping choice
I make my own opinion from what I have seen and heard. I don't have to buy them!0 -
Gavin Gilbert wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I ended up getting DA 7850s (for 454 quid)...
Gilbert, I don't care about your experience etc, I'm not going to take what I percieve to be any extra risk...
So prejudice over evidence then? IIRC you're a Plod. Nice to know.
"you're a plod", Nice. manners cost nothing, mind you, you can't educate pork.0 -
dmclite wrote:Gavin Gilbert wrote:NapoleonD wrote:I ended up getting DA 7850s (for 454 quid)...
Gilbert, I don't care about your experience etc, I'm not going to take what I percieve to be any extra risk...
So prejudice over evidence then? IIRC you're a Plod. Nice to know.
"you're a plod", Nice. manners cost nothing, mind you, you can't educate pork.
Incorrect.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112431/0 -
To save any confusion/paranoia, my last post was aimed detrimentally at GavinGilbert and backing up NapoleonD.
You are in the Siena owners club now, we are special.0 -
mavic are not going to let a unsafe wheel onto the market as they would get sued to death. don't see any fail in the tour. If i had campag i'd buy them. and if people say you can get better for 450 brand new there talking shit.eating parmos since 1981
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www.bikeradar.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=40044&t=130387990 -
dmclite wrote:To save any confusion/paranoia, my last post was aimed detrimentally at GavinGilbert and backing up NapoleonD.
You are in the Siena owners club now, we are special.
Given you are unable to construct a reasoned argument and you're hiding behind a silly username why should I give a flying toss what you think?0 -
Gavin Gilbert wrote:dmclite wrote:To save any confusion/paranoia, my last post was aimed detrimentally at GavinGilbert and backing up NapoleonD.
You are in the Siena owners club now, we are special.
Given you are unable to construct a reasoned argument and you're hiding behind a silly username why should I give a flying toss what you think?
To be fair, your 'point' about me being in the police and not wanting to buy a pair of wheels despite no 'evidence' was pretty dire! 0 -
I've got a pair of the Easton EA90SLX on order at £480. Whatever the debate about R-Sys issues, I'd personally favour a new set of wheels over the 2nd hand R-Sys if they are only £30 more. The claimed weight is 1399g, so only 40g heavier. They got a 9/10 in the C+ review if that means anything.0
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How many of these wheels are out in the real world, can't imagine at the price they are, that there are lots so any Risk calc is going to be skewed by a lack of data.
Personally I wouldn't touch them at any price, for me carbon tubes just aren't designed to be flexed in the way they will be in a wheel. And I hate to think what happens if you scratch a spoke or break one. No thanks give me a wheel Sapim CX-Ray spokes any day
NB: I have nothing against Mavic, I use and have used plenty of their rims but ocassionally they make bad products like everyone else, 230 MTB rims for instance.0 -
Why bother with them?
They are not at all aero as has been pointed out:
http://www.rouesartisanales.com/article-15505311.html
That they look good and are light is no use if you are going to go slower overall, never mind the cost and the possibility of a nasty failure0 -
Gavin Gilbert wrote:dmclite wrote:To save any confusion/paranoia, my last post was aimed detrimentally at GavinGilbert and backing up NapoleonD.
You are in the Siena owners club now, we are special.
Given you are unable to construct a reasoned argument and you're hiding behind a silly username why should I give a flying toss what you think?
To be fair NapD is not really hiding behind a username. His name is his profile. And we all know he is a Sgt (soon-to-be-inspector) in Cheshire Constabulary. Hardly hiding. Whereas we only know your name might be Gavin Gilbert, no real evidence to suggest that's not a fake name.....0 -
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redddraggon wrote:To be fair NapD is not really hiding behind a username. His name is his profile. And we all know he is a Sgt (soon-to-be-inspector) in Cheshire Constabulary. Hardly hiding. Whereas we only know your name might be Gavin Gilbert, no real evidence to suggest that's not a fake name.....
More of a pop at dmclite. As for my name, try Google or the CTT site.0 -
Gavin Gilbert wrote:redddraggon wrote:To be fair NapD is not really hiding behind a username. His name is his profile. And we all know he is a Sgt (soon-to-be-inspector) in Cheshire Constabulary. Hardly hiding. Whereas we only know your name might be Gavin Gilbert, no real evidence to suggest that's not a fake name.....
More of a pop at dmclite.
His name is in his profile too, so I don't understand your argument.0 -
I have a pair, they've been true without touching for 18 months, I find they spin up with ease and that they feel solid when I'm going as hard as I can (not that much tbh).
So I like them.
Apparently this makes me an ignorant fool who is both easily parted from his money and is conned by marketing.
To all of those who seem happy to use the frankly insulting language.....p1ss off.
To those who have a different opinion to me and/or have an arguement to back it up....good on you. The world would be dull if we all felt the same.0
