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  • dennisn
    dennisn Posts: 10,601
    Bhima wrote:
    chrisw12 wrote:
    Bhima. were you alive in the 90's?

    I was alive in the 80s mate.

    Oh yeah, well I was alive in the 40's.
    Whoa, now I am depressed. :wink::wink:
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    freehub wrote:
    I tend not to cycle on my recovery days as I use these days to rest my knee.

    Well that's a problem in itself!

    Have you been to the doctors?

    Yea, she said all she can see is the worn patch on the back of the knee cap and my tendons and everything look ok, she said she will refer me to a physio, I knew I forgot to do something, I'll phone the docs up tomorrow as it's being 2 weeks since she said she'd refer me.
  • freehub wrote:
    freehub wrote:
    I tend not to cycle on my recovery days as I use these days to rest my knee.

    Well that's a problem in itself!

    Have you been to the doctors?

    Yea, she said all she can see is the worn patch on the back of the knee cap and my tendons and everything look ok, she said she will refer me to a physio, I knew I forgot to do something, I'll phone the docs up tomorrow as it's being 2 weeks since she said she'd refer me.

    Good idea. Knees can coause endless amounts of trouble.

    What cleats do you use out of interest? I use some Time RXS and they're brilliant. Put the cleats on, push em right back and let the pedal sort the float out. Cleared up any knee issues I had using Look Keo pedals.
    "A cyclist has nothing to lose but his chain"

    PTP Runner Up 2015
  • Bhima
    Bhima Posts: 2,145
    STILL got that knee trouble? :shock: Get to a physio, fast!

    Next time you're in MCR, let me know - I have a mate who's a cyclist & a physiotherapist. He did my bike-fit for me and I don't have any pain at all.

    Physios are like magicians - they can just look at the way you stand and tell if something is wrong immediately. Incredible. :shock:
  • SheffSimon

    "Faith begins where knowledge ends" my friend

    Scientists have identified over 700 pollutants that occur regularly in tap water.
    The EPA monitors 8 inorganic & 10 organic chemicals, leaving approx 30,000 possible hazardous pollutants without regulation!!!!!! (they could never afford to check all pollutants)

    Bear also in mind that the UK discharge ~300,000,000 tons of raw or partially treated sewage around our coast line ever day! - much of which ends up in reservoirs through rain fall etc.

    We are also experiencing more than ever before in the history of mankind people on 1 or more prescription drugs, drug residue in water sources & reservoirs are now parts per million instead of parts per trillion!

    High levels of statin drugs, estrogen (birth control pill), SSRI drugs (anti depressants, Selective Serotonin Re-up Inhibitors), beta blockers, plus lots more!

    In the US (Florida) crocodiles are decreasing in numbers due the inability to mate due to high levels of estrogen in the water which causes the crocodiles penises not to fully develop or be very small through genetics. May want to think about that one :)

    Here's just a couple of short videos & an article for you to educate yourself:

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... spx#178117

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2352089988

    I also recommend reading works by Paul Chek & Julia Ross both have produced good articles based on sound unbiassed research.

    I'll end by giving you another little analogy:

    You hire a mountain guide to take you up a mountain......but the guide has never been passed half way.........the first step your guide takes past half way with you, he stops being a guide. He's just another person who's willing to get lost with you (and take your money).

    Hence faith begins where knowledge ends.....................

    Mark Johnson
    www.markjohnson-coaching.co.uk
  • sheffsimon
    sheffsimon Posts: 1,282
    SheffSimon

    "Faith begins where knowledge ends" my friend

    Eh?

    Scientists have identified over 700 pollutants that occur regularly in tap water.
    The EPA monitors 8 inorganic & 10 organic chemicals, leaving approx 30,000 possible hazardous pollutants without regulation!!!!!! (they could never afford to check all pollutants)

    Bear also in mind that the UK discharge ~300,000,000 tons of raw or partially treated sewage around our coast line ever day! - much of which ends up in reservoirs through rain fall etc.

    We are also experiencing more than ever before in the history of mankind people on 1 or more prescription drugs, drug residue in water sources & reservoirs are now parts per million instead of parts per trillion!

    High levels of statin drugs, estrogen (birth control pill), SSRI drugs (anti depressants, Selective Serotonin Re-up Inhibitors), beta blockers, plus lots more!

    In the US (Florida) crocodiles are decreasing in numbers due the inability to mate due to high levels of estrogen in the water which causes the crocodiles penises not to fully develop or be very small through genetics. May want to think about that one :)


    No problems on that score :wink:

    Here's just a couple of short videos & an article for you to educate yourself:

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... spx#178117

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2352089988

    I also recommend reading works by Paul Chek & Julia Ross both have produced good articles based on sound unbiassed research.

    I'll end by giving you another little analogy:

    You hire a mountain guide to take you up a mountain......but the guide has never been passed half way.........the first step your guide takes past half way with you, he stops being a guide. He's just another person who's willing to get lost with you (and take your money).


    Again, eh?

    Hence faith begins where knowledge ends.....................

    Mark Johnson
    www.markjohnson-coaching.co.uk

    What do you suggest we drink then, bottled water?

    Filtered water? Does home water filter get all this sh*t out, doubt it very much.
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    I cant really afford to buy bottles water, if I was using it for all drinks I'd need a lot. pennies add up to pounds dont forget.

    I suppose boil water, let it go cold does the job?
  • freehub wrote:
    I cant really afford to buy bottles water, if I was using it for all drinks I'd need a lot. pennies add up to pounds dont forget.

    I suppose boil water, let it go cold does the job?

    You're not in sub-saharan Africa, just drink tap water!!! The air you're breathing probably contains a lot more dangerous chemicals then the water anyway!!
  • amaferanga
    amaferanga Posts: 6,789
    SheffSimon

    "Faith begins where knowledge ends" my friend

    Scientists have identified over 700 pollutants that occur regularly in tap water.
    The EPA monitors 8 inorganic & 10 organic chemicals, leaving approx 30,000 possible hazardous pollutants without regulation!!!!!! (they could never afford to check all pollutants)

    Bear also in mind that the UK discharge ~300,000,000 tons of raw or partially treated sewage around our coast line ever day! - much of which ends up in reservoirs through rain fall etc.

    We are also experiencing more than ever before in the history of mankind people on 1 or more prescription drugs, drug residue in water sources & reservoirs are now parts per million instead of parts per trillion!

    High levels of statin drugs, estrogen (birth control pill), SSRI drugs (anti depressants, Selective Serotonin Re-up Inhibitors), beta blockers, plus lots more!

    In the US (Florida) crocodiles are decreasing in numbers due the inability to mate due to high levels of estrogen in the water which causes the crocodiles penises not to fully develop or be very small through genetics. May want to think about that one :)

    Here's just a couple of short videos & an article for you to educate yourself:

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... spx#178117

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... 2352089988

    I also recommend reading works by Paul Chek & Julia Ross both have produced good articles based on sound unbiassed research.

    I'll end by giving you another little analogy:

    You hire a mountain guide to take you up a mountain......but the guide has never been passed half way.........the first step your guide takes past half way with you, he stops being a guide. He's just another person who's willing to get lost with you (and take your money).

    Hence faith begins where knowledge ends.....................

    Mark Johnson
    www.markjohnson-coaching.co.uk

    Does your own shadow scare you sometimes?
    More problems but still living....
  • vorsprung
    vorsprung Posts: 1,953

    "Faith begins where knowledge ends" my friend

    "without truth there can be no knowledge"
    Bear also in mind that the UK discharge ~300,000,000 tons of raw or partially treated sewage around our coast line ever day! - much of which ends up in reservoirs through rain fall etc.
    No, that's not how rainfall works. Or the reservoirs would have salty water in them, like the sea
    We are also experiencing more than ever before in the history of mankind people on 1 or more prescription drugs, drug residue in water sources & reservoirs are now parts per million instead of parts per trillion!

    High levels of statin drugs, estrogen (birth control pill), SSRI drugs (anti depressants, Selective Serotonin Re-up Inhibitors), beta blockers, plus lots more!

    In the US (Florida) crocodiles are decreasing in numbers due the inability to mate due to high levels of estrogen in the water which causes the crocodiles penises not to fully develop or be very small through genetics. May want to think about that one :)

    Here's just a couple of short videos & an article for you to educate yourself:

    http://articles.mercola.com/sites/artic ... spx#178117
    Have to register on some kind of site to see this..so I didn't
    This is interesting. It is all about Fluoride as a pollutant and the history behind it
    Although I drink quite a lot of tea so water fluoride is my second source :)
    I also recommend reading works by Paul Chek & Julia Ross both have produced good articles based on sound unbiassed research.
    I was unable to find anything specifically about water from Paul Chek et al on the web

    So basically your objection to drinking tap water is that it contains significant amounts of 1) industrial pollutants 2) drug products such as estrogen 3)fluoride

    The key word here is "significant". There is bound to be so many parts per trillion of anything you care to mention in tap water. But is it actually harmful?
  • bobpzero
    bobpzero Posts: 1,431
    so anyways.... :roll:
    freehub you any closer to the answers your looking for?
  • freehub
    freehub Posts: 4,257
    This week I'm just taking it easy, I've got an interview on wednesday for a voluntery job but even though it's voluntery and only 40 quid a week I'm abit nervous, I might go for a ride on Wednesday in the afternoon if the interview went good, not planning on doing the interval training or TT this week, going to do the long ride on saturday though.

    On saturday I did 138 miles, around 8000 something ft of climbing, 18.5mph av for the total thanks to the tailwind for the last 50ish miles pushing it up.

    I had a bad day last thursday so I did not do the TT, just normal ride of about 32 miles and got my bike looked at and reassured it's fine, on saturday the first 57 miles up to the cafe stop I was doing abit crap, I had a big turn around and was allot faster after the cafe stop for once and when we hit the hills I was dropping the leader by quite abit on this 20% climb and then on this really long 12-17% climb, never really eased off that climb did, he's a good climber and a couple months ago he was dropping me easilly and last week I was not able to drop him on the climbs at all. The first part of the clong climb he was in front, I was struggling to keep up but then my lactate build up started to disperse and I got into a rythem and started gaining speed, so I might stick to this 2 days recovery at the moment I seems to be doing me great, but last week was a bad week.

    I've got acid reflux at the moment that I first noticed on a long ride and had on and off heart burn ever damn day and constant burping so taking tablets for that, damn annoying on the bike coughing acid and half digested mars bars and stuff back up.

    Anyway waffle over to sumerize yes I think I am closer, some days I need more recovery and today I had recovered by the afternoon from saturday so could have gone on a ride but as I said taking it easy this week.
  • bobpzero
    bobpzero Posts: 1,431
    im glad your getting some form back, even tho your having setbacks. i always liked zakk wylde's (front man for black label society) answer in a interview, "you can't hit a home run all the time" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCcMI1pMfCE