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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Whilst I wasn't impressed with that DQ decision or the complaint in the first place, I get the feeling Cavendish has been out-ridden by a more experienced pro and former GJ winner.
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  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    I agree. Cav's king of sprinting for now and maybe one year that alone will win him the green but Thor's a more complete rider (still a sprinter, obviously, but compared to Cav he's more complete) and doesn't have to rely on pure sprinting alone.
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  • Eau Rouge
    Eau Rouge Posts: 1,118
    Hushovd is definitely earning the jersey today. He can't quite match Columbia on the flat stages but there are points on the hilly stages too, and he has climbed better than Cavendish and taken some of them.. His protest was in bad form, but his riding has been better than Cavendish's overall.
  • PBo
    PBo Posts: 2,493
    TBH, Cav went in with the plan of winning stages, and making it over the alps to try and win the stage in Paris. It was only having had the green jersey on that made us all look at that possibility. In reality, harsh DQ notwithstanding, Cav's all or nothing approach (win stages, forget the intermediates) always left him exposed to someone with slightly better all round skills, unless Columbia worked to chase every break on flat stages.

    I have no problem with Cav not in green - 4, probably 5 stage wins is awesome.
  • risi
    risi Posts: 231
    I think it should be reiterated that his protest had no impact on the outcome - the decision had already been made. You may think less of him for making the protest, but should probably think less of Martin Bruin for DQing Cavendish rather than just swapping their places (as Robbie McEwen said on the ITV4 podcast).
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  • risi
    risi Posts: 231
    Ha. Just received this email from ZipVit:

    Dear Phil

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    We know you will enjoy the products; this is a quote from Carlos Sastre:

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    Not quite sure what they mean by "Thor Hushovds' win" - have they already decided he's won the green?
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  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    edited July 2009
    What exactly did Thor protest about.

    What did Hincipie (sp?) do during a stage that provoked critisim.

    My only complaint is that no one has really pushed Astana or personally battled Contador.
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  • MartinGT
    MartinGT Posts: 475
    Well atm hes 5mins up on the Pelaton!!!
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    risi wrote:
    Ha. Just received this email from ZipVit:

    Dear Phil

    Have a FREE box of 20 energy bars on us to celebrate Thor Hushovds' win in the Tour de France worth £15.99 with every order over £50

    Do you know that the Cervelo Test Team is ranked Number 1 In The World?

    Do you also know that they are the only Team in the Peloton that uses ZipVit Sports Nutrition?

    We know you will enjoy the products; this is a quote from Carlos Sastre:

    'During the 3 weeks of the Tour De France I do not have my wife with me. ZipVit chocolate energy bars are my substitute for not having sex!'


    Not quite sure what they mean by "Thor Hushovds' win" - have they already decided he's won the green?
    Probably meant stage 6 into barcelona: http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/96th-t ... -6/results
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    JonGinge wrote:
    risi wrote:
    Ha. Just received this email from ZipVit:

    Dear Phil

    Have a FREE box of 20 energy bars on us to celebrate Thor Hushovds' win in the Tour de France worth £15.99 with every order over £50

    Do you know that the Cervelo Test Team is ranked Number 1 In The World?

    Do you also know that they are the only Team in the Peloton that uses ZipVit Sports Nutrition?

    We know you will enjoy the products; this is a quote from Carlos Sastre:

    'During the 3 weeks of the Tour De France I do not have my wife with me. ZipVit chocolate energy bars are my substitute for not having sex!'


    Not quite sure what they mean by "Thor Hushovds' win" - have they already decided he's won the green?
    Probably meant stage 6 into barcelona: http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/96th-t ... -6/results

    WTH does CTT being the only team to use ZipVit have to do with the price of apples?

    "Did you know that CTT, who use ZipVit, don't have anyone on the GC podium (yet)?"

    I hate that marketing guff. Mate, I'm Joe Distinctly Average with two kids who wake me up early and run me ragged. More sleep and training will make me go faster, not ZipVit.

    <miserable sod rant over>
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  • tailwindhome
    tailwindhome Posts: 19,395
    6 points for Thor, so far.


    Might not be a popular opinion but I think he deserves the Green Jersey.

    Cav will have to take comfort in 5 stage wins.

    His protest was in bad form

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  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    cjcp wrote:
    JonGinge wrote:
    risi wrote:
    Ha. Just received this email from ZipVit:

    Dear Phil

    Have a FREE box of 20 energy bars on us to celebrate Thor Hushovds' win in the Tour de France worth £15.99 with every order over £50

    Do you know that the Cervelo Test Team is ranked Number 1 In The World?

    Do you also know that they are the only Team in the Peloton that uses ZipVit Sports Nutrition?

    We know you will enjoy the products; this is a quote from Carlos Sastre:

    'During the 3 weeks of the Tour De France I do not have my wife with me. ZipVit chocolate energy bars are my substitute for not having sex!'


    Not quite sure what they mean by "Thor Hushovds' win" - have they already decided he's won the green?
    Probably meant stage 6 into barcelona: http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/96th-t ... -6/results

    WTH does CTT being the only team to use ZipVit have to do with the price of apples?

    "Did you know that CTT, who use ZipVit, don't have anyone on the GC podium (yet)?"

    I hate that marketing guff. Mate, I'm Joe Distinctly Average with two kids who wake me up early and run me ragged. More sleep and training will make me go faster, not ZipVit.

    <miserable sod rant over>

    But that's not what the nice people at ZipVit told me... And they're, like, nutritionists and things.

    :wink:
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  • risi
    risi Posts: 231
    JonGinge wrote:
    risi wrote:
    Ha. Just received this email from ZipVit:

    Dear Phil

    Have a FREE box of 20 energy bars on us to celebrate Thor Hushovds' win in the Tour de France worth £15.99 with every order over £50

    Do you know that the Cervelo Test Team is ranked Number 1 In The World?

    Do you also know that they are the only Team in the Peloton that uses ZipVit Sports Nutrition?

    We know you will enjoy the products; this is a quote from Carlos Sastre:

    'During the 3 weeks of the Tour De France I do not have my wife with me. ZipVit chocolate energy bars are my substitute for not having sex!'


    Not quite sure what they mean by "Thor Hushovds' win" - have they already decided he's won the green?
    Probably meant stage 6 into barcelona: http://www.cyclingnews.com/races/96th-t ... -6/results

    Oh, that. Yes. Still, can't see anyone catching Thor now.
    I hate that marketing guff. Mate, I'm Joe Distinctly Average with two kids who wake me up early and run me ragged. More sleep and training will make me go faster, not ZipVit.

    Yes, but as a married? man with children (who therefore doesn't have sex anymore) you should be using the chocolate energy bars apparently. (Note to self: must try one too).
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    lost_in_thought wrote:
    But that's not what the nice people at ZipVit told me... And they're, like, nutritionists and things.

    :wink:

    But without enough sleep, you can't recover properly.

    FACT!. :P
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    risi wrote:
    Yes, but as a married? man with children (who therefore doesn't have sex anymore) you should be using the chocolate energy bars apparently. (Note to self: must try one too).

    I would have gone with a different quote. Spanish humour, I guess. I won't be able to eat a ZipVit chocolate bar without some disturbing images flashing through my head. :shock:
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  • Eau Rouge
    Eau Rouge Posts: 1,118
    PBo wrote:
    Cav's all or nothing approach (win stages, forget the intermediates)

    Correct me if I remember this wrong, but didn't Cavendish win the only two intermediate sprints in the Tour that the peleton arrived at together? All the others were taken by riders in breaks. I'd hardly call that "forgetting".
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    edited July 2009
    Menchov just crashed...again :roll:

    Edit: apologies for going back on topic. Carry on, as you were
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    JonGinge wrote:
    Menchov just crashed...again :roll:

    WOODPEC...
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  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    :lol:
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  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    risi wrote:
    Ha. Just received this email from ZipVit:

    Dear Phil

    Have a FREE box of 20 energy bars on us to celebrate Thor Hushovds' win in the Tour de France worth £15.99 with every order over £50

    Do you know that the Cervelo Test Team is ranked Number 1 In The World?

    Do you also know that they are the only Team in the Peloton that uses ZipVit Sports Nutrition?

    We know you will enjoy the products; this is a quote from Carlos Sastre:

    'During the 3 weeks of the Tour De France I do not have my wife with me. ZipVit chocolate energy bars are my substitute for not having sex!'


    Not quite sure what they mean by "Thor Hushovds' win" - have they already decided he's won the green?

    I got that e-mail too, what an appauling bit of photoshop
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  • PBo
    PBo Posts: 2,493
    edited July 2009
    Eau Rouge wrote:
    PBo wrote:
    Cav's all or nothing approach (win stages, forget the intermediates)

    Correct me if I remember this wrong, but didn't Cavendish win the only two intermediate sprints in the Tour that the peloton arrived at together? All the others were taken by riders in breaks. I'd hardly call that "forgetting".

    True - but by that time Cav was relishing the green. IIRC before the tour Columbia/cav hadn't planned to contest those sprints.....


    .......but of course, this is all from information gleaned from the highly reliable source of t'interweb....it's not like I've got a hotline to Bob Stapleton :oops:

    btw I'm a cav fan, and this was an observation not a criticism.

    and having said all that - chapeau to Thor for what he is doing today so far.....
  • risi
    risi Posts: 231
    Attica wrote:
    risi wrote:
    Ha. Just received this email from ZipVit:

    Dear Phil

    Have a FREE box of 20 energy bars on us to celebrate Thor Hushovds' win in the Tour de France worth £15.99 with every order over £50

    Do you know that the Cervelo Test Team is ranked Number 1 In The World?

    Do you also know that they are the only Team in the Peloton that uses ZipVit Sports Nutrition?

    We know you will enjoy the products; this is a quote from Carlos Sastre:

    'During the 3 weeks of the Tour De France I do not have my wife with me. ZipVit chocolate energy bars are my substitute for not having sex!'


    Not quite sure what they mean by "Thor Hushovds' win" - have they already decided he's won the green?

    I got that e-mail too, what an appauling bit of photoshop

    Carlos is either very small or that bar weighs about 1kg!
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  • Jamey
    Jamey Posts: 2,152
    Menchov really is proving to be comedy relief, isn't he. The phrase "descending like an elephant on roller skates" in the BBC Live Text made me laugh just now.
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  • risi
    risi Posts: 231
    NOOOOOOO! Kenny van Hummel crashed and had to retire!

    Edit: And Evans (who?) out the back with Cav.
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  • attica
    attica Posts: 2,362
    Haha, can't find it on t'interwobble to post a link but if anybody wants to see just how small Carlos is, or how big a 1kg Zipvit bar looks then PM me and I'll forward it on, it's not all that, but the offer's there
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  • risi
    risi Posts: 231
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    Oh, and Di Luca tested positive twice in the Giro (he finished second). Suspended by UCI.
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  • greg66_tri_v2.0
    greg66_tri_v2.0 Posts: 7,172
    cjcp wrote:
    Whilst I wasn't impressed with that DQ decision or the complaint in the first place, I get the feeling Cavendish has been out-ridden by a more experienced pro and former GJ winner.

    I think Hushovd's making a statement today, in direct response to Cav's statement that the green jersey has a stain on it. Old pro puts talented youngster firmly in his place. Faster sprinter, but not a better racer.

    And I reckon that to a degree Hushovd has been allowed to do that by the breakaway, and possibly the field too. The second intermediate sprint has gone and Hushovd's been gobbled up; prior to that they were prepared to let him ride solo.

    Sounds like Cav may be making fewer friends than enemies in the peloton. Silly boy.
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  • always_tyred
    always_tyred Posts: 4,965
    No one likes a scouser.
  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    Greg66 wrote:
    cjcp wrote:
    Whilst I wasn't impressed with that DQ decision or the complaint in the first place, I get the feeling Cavendish has been out-ridden by a more experienced pro and former GJ winner.

    I think Hushovd's making a statement today, in direct response to Cav's statement that the green jersey has a stain on it. Old pro puts talented youngster firmly in his place. Faster sprinter, but not a better racer.

    And I reckon that to a degree Hushovd has been allowed to do that by the breakaway, and possibly the field too. The second intermediate sprint has gone and Hushovd's been gobbled up; prior to that they were prepared to let him ride solo.

    Sounds like Cav may be making fewer friends than enemies in the peloton. Silly boy.

    Interesting idea. And one I hope Cav takes note of.
  • Coriander
    Coriander Posts: 1,326
    I can't believe it - I've been watching all day and now have to go and have a massage and will miss the rest of the day's racing.

    Aaaggghh, didn't even think about TdF when I made the appointment 6 weeks ago.

    Grrrr.

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