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  • scraggles wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    what - what did he say?!?!?!
    Here you go...
    SB: You won gold in Athens, but was the double gold in Beijing any sweeter?
    BW: <long pause> erm, yeah it was alright yeah. It's just nice to do it, you know, all that training and for it to come off like that. But, yeah, I suppose none of us expected to lose, to be honest, we kind of went in as extreme favourites after the world championships, everyone just went did their own job and kind of went through their preparation and training I think anyone would have been disappointed had they got second or whatever in their respective event, so it's kind of just a tick in a box really each time anyone went up. It sounds awful but that's the way it was done.

    I didn't get to see it. I'm guessing Cav was not present?
  • Just a great result all round really, real athletes being acknowledged, well with the exception of Drugahuru.
    I voted once for Mr Hoy, so that must have tipped the balance :-)

    I thought Bobby Charlton was brilliant "I was just lucky enough to have been good at the game" so humble, unlike the Prima Donnas that dominate the game now.
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  • Brilliant night and so inspiring but ... shame on the BBC for no mention of Mark Cavendish's achievements in the year. The Observer Sports Magazine gave him some recognition though.

    FF
  • yogi
    yogi Posts: 456
    I voted Hoy but I think Cooke also deserved to win, I'm a big fan, unfortunately her public profile is not as high so I voted tactically. Great night for cycling, with the team and coach award too. Who'd have thought that cycling would feature so strongly a few years ago.

    Cycling it really is at an all time high with increased BC membership and more people riding bikes thanks to Bike to Work schemes etc, just got to keep the momentum going.
  • inseine
    inseine Posts: 5,788
    fatfreddy, Cav did get a mention. You should have watched from the start :)
  • phreak
    phreak Posts: 2,953
    Superb stuff to see the cyclists snap up every prize. Just need to get that TDF winner now :)
  • iain_j
    iain_j Posts: 1,941
    Congratulations to Hoy, Brailsford and the rest of the team. What a superb year for them, this is the icing on the cake.
  • inseine wrote:
    fatfreddy, Cav did get a mention. You should have watched from the start :)

    oops - apologies to the BBC then - must have been stocking up with anti bonk supplies to get through the 2 hours.

    ff
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,094
    Wiggins came accross worse than that quote sounds. What he said was fair enough, and made sense to those in the know but not the kind of thing you say at an awards show, and his demeanour is just so disinterested and aloof its painful to watch. FFS Brad, crack a smile and say how pleased you were. :roll:

    I thought it was a good show this year. Usually its a bit painful to watch but this year was pretty good. Cav did get a mention but shame there wasn't much screen time given to his tour finishes. Good to have a section of them all out on a nice winter training ride over some moors aswell. I expected Hoy to get spat out the back though!

    All good winners I thought. They all came accross as nice, humble and grounded people. All good ambassadors for their sport.
  • Wiggins was absolutely spot on with what he said IMO. The success of the cycling team wasn't a fluke result, they had planned and trained clinically and ruthlessly. Really, other than Cooke's result perhaps, there wasn't a single gold you weren't expecting.

    Thought it was a really poor show to be honest. What happened to the old style of actually showing some sporting highlights, rather than padding out the gaps between the presentation of the awards with shite films along the lines of the Murray one?
  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,094
    Wiggins was absolutely spot on with what he said IMO. The success of the cycling team wasn't a fluke result, they had planned and trained clinically and ruthlessly. Really, other than Cooke's result perhaps, there wasn't a single gold you weren't expecting.

    Thought it was a really poor show to be honest. What happened to the old style of actually showing some sporting highlights, rather than padding out the gaps between the presentation of the awards with shite films along the lines of the Murray one?

    Yeh, he was spot on with what he said. But, it was the wrong setting and the way he said it meant he came accross badly. I doubt he won too many friends after that. Course, as cyclists we know what the deal is with the team but to the general public he just comes accross as a moody teenager. You have to watch him through your fingers. Its not that hard to sound happy and big up the team, surely!?

    Agreed, the Murray section was a bit OTT. Would have preferred to see some more highlights from his games rather than him standing on some rocks knocking balls out to sea! But I was just pleased that each candidate got a fair amount of coverage. Last year it seemed that some of them were just there to make up the numbers.
  • FSR_XC
    FSR_XC Posts: 2,258
    Well I voted for Chris Hoy.

    Brilliant result for British Cycling.

    Top 3 were spot on. Lewis Hamilton has had an amazing year in F1 and Becky Adlington was the most unexpected gold medalist we had at the Olympics.

    Probably a bit contencious but I don't think they should have won the team award. That should have really gone to the British Olympic Team.

    Nicole Cooke IMO came across as being a bit me . . me . . me! It seemed to take alot for her to acknowledge that her team mates helped her.

    Both Chris and Vicky where great ambassadors for the sport, praising everyone involved.
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  • it was when he said it I thought he would switch off the floating voaters , came across as a bit of a twat ( and Im a fan ! ) ... then up comes Lewis , consumate gentleman and thanks the crowd for the great welcome .

    That said our man still got it , made me proud to be a cyclist :)
  • I thought what BW was spot on, perhaps just not as eloquent as he could have been. At least he can form sentences, unlike most of those prima donna thick gits who kick a ball around.
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  • simon_e
    simon_e Posts: 1,707
    guv001 wrote:
    A good result although I must admit that I personally voted for Nicloe Cooke.
    I was tempted to do this. Matt Seaton appears to agree with my sentiments.

    However, on reflection I'm inclined to feel that Chris is such a great ambassador for cycling, and sport in general. Even though she deserves it, Nicole would not have had the same vote-pulling power with the general public so would have not overhauled the 2 other main contenders.

    I also liked this single line/paragraph from an AFP news item:

    "Cycling dominated the BBC awards."

    YESSSS!! :D
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  • Was anyone else hoping that Sir Chris would do a big carpet skid as he came off the ramp....?
  • scraggles wrote:
    ddraver wrote:
    what - what did he say?!?!?!
    Here you go...
    SB: You won gold in Athens, but was the double gold in Beijing any sweeter?
    BW: <long pause> erm, yeah it was alright yeah. It's just nice to do it, you know, all that training and for it to come off like that. But, yeah, I suppose none of us expected to lose, to be honest, we kind of went in as extreme favourites after the world championships, everyone just went did their own job and kind of went through their preparation and training I think anyone would have been disappointed had they got second or whatever in their respective event, so it's kind of just a tick in a box really each time anyone went up. It sounds awful but that's the way it was done.

    In all honesty, I think that the confidence level in the GB camp may have been that high. I'm not sure that it was that well explained though. :D

    I was a little surprised that Sir mcHoy won though. I'm not sure I quite believed that the british public had embraced cycling that much. I'm glad that I was proven wrong though. He is a very popular person across all sport. Also, he seemed to immediately deflect the praise onto his team and support.

    Well deserving winner.
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  • aarw
    aarw Posts: 448
    edited December 2008
    did anyone else notice the the intro Ohuruogo got??

    "a master of being where it matters when it matters..."

    i thought, just finish that off with "except when you're required to give a sample that is!"
  • PostieJohn
    PostieJohn Posts: 1,105
    FSR_XC wrote:

    Nicole Cooke IMO came across as being a bit me . . me . . me! It seemed to take alot for her to acknowledge that her team mates helped her.

    Somewhat harsh, esp as she broke off her finish line interview to scream "we won, we won", as the rest of the team dragged themselves over the line.
  • iain_j
    iain_j Posts: 1,941
    aarw wrote:
    did know else notice the the intro Ohuruogo got??

    "a master of being where it matters when it matters..."

    i thought, just finish that off with "except when you're required to give a sample that is!"

    I laughed at that too :lol: :?
  • PostieJohn wrote:
    FSR_XC wrote:

    Nicole Cooke IMO came across as being a bit me . . me . . me! It seemed to take alot for her to acknowledge that her team mates helped her.

    Somewhat harsh, esp as she broke off her finish line interview to scream "we won, we won", as the rest of the team dragged themselves over the line.

    No no no no. She's just as nice as the rest of the team. She recently went back to her ols school anhd was happy to spend lots of time with us, chatting and being involved i9n the activities at the 'homecomming' after the Olympics.
    A thoroughly nice woman. :D
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  • can talk the hind legs off a donkey though... could just see that Barker woman thinking 'I have no idea what you're going on about, please can I talk to someone else?!' :)
  • yogi
    yogi Posts: 456
    Have to agree with the above posts on Nicole Cooke, I think FSR is being a bit harsh.
  • markos1963
    markos1963 Posts: 3,724
    Went out for a ride this morning, did anyone else? Did you notice more people looking at your slightly pumped out chest or was it just me? I still got cut up by White Van Man though :(
  • I don't really get the criticism on the Bikeradar homepage, I started reading it but got bored halfway. You can't thoroughly review all sports in detail in just two hours. Anyhow, I thought the show was pretty good and the beeb did an ok job, except for the bit where that guy tried to play the sax :? For the record, Cooke got my vote- harder to win against the worlds best on the road than a few nobodies on the track.
  • simon_e
    simon_e Posts: 1,707
    yogi wrote:
    Have to agree with the above posts on Nicole Cooke, I think FSR is being a bit harsh.
    +1.

    IIRC she said on the day that she couldn't have won without their efforts, including Emma's (deliberately timed) breakaway attempt. That move was key to splitting the peloton and therefore Nicole's success IIRC. I watched the 9 minute clip again and I didn't detect any attitude from Nicole.
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  • Well done to Chris Hoy.. great result, also he came across as good bloke, who has worked hard and succeeded, a perfect role model for any kids watching the show ! In fact that was also the case for Hamilton and of course Sir Bobby Charlton.

    The whole cycle team came across extremly well in my opinion, so much better than in previous years

    ... as for the Bike Radar review !... wake up and smell the coffee chaps !, the reason for the lack of actual coverage of most events is that unlike the 1970s, and 1980s the BBC doesnt have the rights to most sports, SKY/ITV would charge them a fortune for 10 second clips, how could they do a summary of the football premiership for instance !... or the Ruglby Union, or the Cricket !.. so the format is dictated by what the Beeb can actually get hold of at a sensible cost... I think they did an ok job, looked slick to me, and hopefully will look slick to a younger generation as well
  • Nicolle almost "apologized' for dropping back in the last corner. :shock:
    And so she bloody should :D I was f'ing and blinding, jumping around as I did at Wales v England this (and every other) 6 nations. :twisted:
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  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    Simon E wrote:
    yogi wrote:
    Have to agree with the above posts on Nicole Cooke, I think FSR is being a bit harsh.
    +1.

    IIRC she said on the day that she couldn't have won without their efforts, including Emma's (deliberately timed) breakaway attempt. That move was key to splitting the peloton and therefore Nicole's success IIRC. I watched the 9 minute clip again and I didn't detect any attitude from Nicole.

    I do not believe that Emma's break away attempt was anything to do with plan for Nicole to win. The team were just using one of two playing cards they had. Obviously the British riders were not going to chase Emma so she could possibly have stayed away, and if she did not, as you said it would split peloton and make other favourites chase leaving nicole a bit fresher, which worked out in the end.
  • ... as for the Bike Radar review !... wake up and smell the coffee chaps !,
    thought it was absolutely spot on, personally. Doesn't matter what the reasons were, it was a poor show. Black and white montages, the Gladiator music and poor sixth-form standard poetry really aren't the making of a good programme..