Interesting clippy shoe incident

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  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    What a great story. My bro had 2 clipless falls last weekend, one involved landing on a dog, I was laughing so hard the dog's owner had to rescue my brother - who promptly apologised to the dog! :lol::lol::lol:
  • What a great story. My bro had 2 clipless falls last weekend, one involved landing on a dog, I was laughing so hard the dog's owner had to rescue my brother - who promptly apologised to the dog! :lol::lol::lol:

    :lol::lol::lol:
  • downfader
    downfader Posts: 3,686
    I was hoping that I'd read you're shoe flew off into some drivers window :lol:
  • Andy65
    Andy65 Posts: 14
    Hi,

    I've recently changed over to clipless pedals, having done a lot of practising clipping in and out, it was the second time I went out for a ride. Coming upto a T junction I was overtaken by a driver of a Peugeot 106 who was turning left. I slowed thinking they'll move off shortly, yes they'll move off now but alas they didn't and I had by now come to a stop so frantically trying to unclip which for some reason I couldn't so I landed in a heap by the pavement still clip in, thankfully the only thing that was hurt was my pride a very embarassing moment lying there still attached to my bike :oops:

    Andy
  • ris
    ris Posts: 392
    Feltup wrote:
    Sounds like you are half way to becoming a triathlete :wink:

    i saw some vid of how to do a transition with shoes attached to pedals and thought i'd try it before my first sprint tri earlier this year. after 30mins riding round the block with the shoes dragging along the ground and my feet being unable to flip them over and get in i gave up.

    how proper triathletes do this is beyond me!
  • ris wrote:
    Feltup wrote:
    Sounds like you are half way to becoming a triathlete :wink:

    i saw some vid of how to do a transition with shoes attached to pedals and thought i'd try it before my first sprint tri earlier this year. after 30mins riding round the block with the shoes dragging along the ground and my feet being unable to flip them over and get in i gave up.

    how proper triathletes do this is beyond me!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see! I could not figure out how this would make me any closer to being a triathlete....

    But I couldn't get my feet *in* to the shoes...
  • Feltup
    Feltup Posts: 1,340
    ris wrote:
    Feltup wrote:
    Sounds like you are half way to becoming a triathlete :wink:

    i saw some vid of how to do a transition with shoes attached to pedals and thought i'd try it before my first sprint tri earlier this year. after 30mins riding round the block with the shoes dragging along the ground and my feet being unable to flip them over and get in i gave up.

    how proper triathletes do this is beyond me!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see! I could not figure out how this would make me any closer to being a triathlete....

    But I couldn't get my feet *in* to the shoes...

    Would be amazed if you could do it on a fixie. (now there's a challenge for you)
    Short hairy legged roadie FCN 4 or 5 in my baggies.

    Felt F55 - 2007
    Specialized Singlecross - 2008
    Marin Rift Zone - 1998
    Peugeot Tourmalet - 1983 - taken more hits than Mohammed Ali
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    Graeme_S wrote:
    I always do my shoes up nice and tightly and have Specialized road shoes with two velcro straps and a ratchet, so no chance of that happening even when pulling upwards very hard.

    +1

    Ironically I think L-i-t this was the advice Greg gave you on Friday as well.

    Given your Gi and the amount of force, push you must generate to push your bike. Road shoes (with the velcro and clicky 'strap') may be the way forward.
    Food Chain number = 4

    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    Feltup wrote:
    ris wrote:
    Feltup wrote:
    Sounds like you are half way to becoming a triathlete :wink:

    i saw some vid of how to do a transition with shoes attached to pedals and thought i'd try it before my first sprint tri earlier this year. after 30mins riding round the block with the shoes dragging along the ground and my feet being unable to flip them over and get in i gave up.

    how proper triathletes do this is beyond me!

    Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh I see! I could not figure out how this would make me any closer to being a triathlete....

    But I couldn't get my feet *in* to the shoes...

    Would be amazed if you could do it on a fixie. (now there's a challenge for you)

    I need to look into this as a training issue.....Sunday will be my day of reckoning for flipping the already attached shoes!

    My only clipless fall off's were years ago - first time out, head onto a round-a-bout - lady in the car ahead brakes to a stop for no reason - I brake and forget to unclip....down I go.

    The other one was filtering up to temporary lights on the right of the traffic - a large oncoming 4 x 4 decided to take all the road up, I needed to stop and put a foot down - un balanced so I fell in front of it instead - I was lucky!!

    Fallen off my MTB whilst clipped in loads, still do - usually hit a tree or something!
  • DonDaddyD wrote:
    Graeme_S wrote:
    I always do my shoes up nice and tightly and have Specialized road shoes with two velcro straps and a ratchet, so no chance of that happening even when pulling upwards very hard.

    +1

    Ironically I think L-i-t this was the advice Greg gave you on Friday as well.

    Given your Gi and the amount of force, push you must generate to push your bike. Road shoes (with the velcro and clicky 'strap') may be the way forward.

    Yep, this is the advice I got from the gang on Friday. I'm not (theoretically) allowed to buy anything at this time of year, as it's Xmas followed very quickly by my birthday (arrrrrgh getting old) so they'll have to wait. Maybe I'll get some shiny new shoes to go with my shiny new bike in the (shiny) New Year.

    In the meantime, I'm doing the current ones up as tight as they'll go, possibly too tight as I had numb, painful feet when I got to work this AM... :(
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    Clever Pun wrote:
    Might I also suggest pushing down as your initial pedal movement, that's where the power is

    I think the problem is that when I'm pulling up I'm doing so with my foot pretty much completely relaxed. Clearly I wouldn't get anywhere very fast if I was only pulling up and not pushing down...
    I`m not really sure why you`re pulling up at all,I don`t think it`s the right technique.What you want to do is imagine you are scraping sh#t off your shoe when your foot is furthest foreward and forget about pulling up completely.Then do the same with the other foot.It works for me.Having said that i`m no expert,the first time I used spd`s I rode into the garage and forget all about them.I fell sideways but fortunately my fall was broken by dad`s porsche. :)
    Smarter than the average bear.
  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    antfly wrote:
    Clever Pun wrote:
    Might I also suggest pushing down as your initial pedal movement, that's where the power is

    I think the problem is that when I'm pulling up I'm doing so with my foot pretty much completely relaxed. Clearly I wouldn't get anywhere very fast if I was only pulling up and not pushing down...
    I`m not really sure why you`re pulling up at all,I don`t think it`s the right technique.What you want to do is imagine you are scraping sh#t off your shoe when your foot is furthest foreward and forget about pulling up completely.Then do the same with the other foot.It works for me.Having said that i`m no expert,the first time I used spd`s I rode into the garage and forget all about them.I fell sideways but fortunately my fall was broken by dad`s porsche. :)

    I use a combination of both - especially on hills. Pull up and push down....nice not to have to think about foot placement on the pedal to be honest - you can just pump away...so to speak.

    Good effort on the Porsche - I can see a thread on "Whats the most expensive car that you have hit?"...
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Graeme_S wrote:
    I always do my shoes up nice and tightly and have Specialized road shoes with two velcro straps and a ratchet, so no chance of that happening even when pulling upwards very hard.

    +1

    Ironically I think L-i-t this was the advice Greg gave you on Friday as well.

    Given your Gi and the amount of force, push you must generate to push your bike. Road shoes (with the velcro and clicky 'strap') may be the way forward.

    Yep, this is the advice I got from the gang on Friday. I'm not (theoretically) allowed to buy anything at this time of year, as it's Xmas followed very quickly by my birthday (arrrrrgh getting old) so they'll have to wait. Maybe I'll get some shiny new shoes to go with my shiny new bike in the (shiny) New Year.

    In the meantime, I'm doing the current ones up as tight as they'll go, possibly too tight as I had numb, painful feet when I got to work this AM... :(

    Ok, I suspect that the shiny new bike is likely to be a Viner or some such Italian Stalion. Isn't their an argument that such pedigree demands an aggressive race intended pedal to compliment it? I'm talking SPD-SL shoes.

    Basically:

    SPD = Giant Bowery
    SPD-SL for the new shiny bike (which I suspect is a Viner)

    Its not right to put anythin but SPD-SL on the supposed new shiny bike...
    Food Chain number = 4

    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Graeme_S wrote:
    I always do my shoes up nice and tightly and have Specialized road shoes with two velcro straps and a ratchet, so no chance of that happening even when pulling upwards very hard.

    +1

    Ironically I think L-i-t this was the advice Greg gave you on Friday as well.

    Given your Gi and the amount of force, push you must generate to push your bike. Road shoes (with the velcro and clicky 'strap') may be the way forward.

    Yep, this is the advice I got from the gang on Friday. I'm not (theoretically) allowed to buy anything at this time of year, as it's Xmas followed very quickly by my birthday (arrrrrgh getting old) so they'll have to wait. Maybe I'll get some shiny new shoes to go with my shiny new bike in the (shiny) New Year.

    In the meantime, I'm doing the current ones up as tight as they'll go, possibly too tight as I had numb, painful feet when I got to work this AM... :(

    Ok, I suspect that the shiny new bike is likely to be a Viner or some such Italian Stalion. Isn't their an argument that such pedigree demands an aggressive race intended pedal to compliment it? I'm talking SPD-SL shoes.

    Basically:

    SPD = Giant Bowery
    SPD-SL for the new shiny bike (which I suspect is a Viner)

    Its not right to put anythin but SPD-SL on the supposed new shiny bike...

    Agreed!!!! 2 clipless systems is the way forward - SPD-SL is interesting in town!! You can have nice new shoes too!!
  • DonDaddyD wrote:

    Ok, I suspect that the shiny new bike is likely to be a Viner or some such Italian Stalion. Isn't their an argument that such pedigree demands an aggressive race intended pedal to compliment it? I'm talking SPD-SL shoes.

    Basically:

    SPD = Giant Bowery
    SPD-SL for the new shiny bike (which I suspect is a Viner)

    Its not right to put anythin but SPD-SL on the supposed new shiny bike...

    DDD you make a compelling argument for buying 2 new pairs of shoes... I like it. :D

    However, both pairs of shoes will have to wait until after xmas... which is no biggie as the Bowery only has another 2 and a bit weeks of use before I head to Essex and the crappy roadie becomes my weapon of choice until the 5th of Jan.

    What with its having more than one gear, I should avoid any more unscheduled shoe removals...

    And for the new bike (not necessarily a Viner but I do heart it quite a lot right now) I'm thinking nice pedals, but don't know enough about what's out there to make an informed choice...
  • jonginge
    jonginge Posts: 5,945
    DonDaddyD wrote:
    Ok, I suspect that the shiny new bike is likely to be a Viner or some such Italian Stalion. Isn't their an argument that such pedigree demands an aggressive race intended pedal to compliment it? I'm talking SPD-SL shoes.

    Basically:

    SPD = Giant Bowery
    SPD-SL for the new shiny bike (which I suspect is a Viner)

    Its not right to put anythin but SPD-SL on the supposed new shiny bike...
    Sits back, waits for the pedal wars to begin...

    Time, i tell you
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  • gtvlusso
    gtvlusso Posts: 5,112
    DonDaddyD wrote:

    Ok, I suspect that the shiny new bike is likely to be a Viner or some such Italian Stalion. Isn't their an argument that such pedigree demands an aggressive race intended pedal to compliment it? I'm talking SPD-SL shoes.

    Basically:

    SPD = Giant Bowery
    SPD-SL for the new shiny bike (which I suspect is a Viner)

    Its not right to put anythin but SPD-SL on the supposed new shiny bike...

    DDD you make a compelling argument for buying 2 new pairs of shoes... I like it. :D

    However, both pairs of shoes will have to wait until after xmas... which is no biggie as the Bowery only has another 2 and a bit weeks of use before I head to Essex and the crappy roadie becomes my weapon of choice until the 5th of Jan.

    What with its having more than one gear, I should avoid any more unscheduled shoe removals...

    And for the new bike (not necessarily a Viner but I do heart it quite a lot right now) I'm thinking nice pedals, but don't know enough about what's out there to make an informed choice...

    I have Ritchey Pro SPD for my MTB and winter pedals for my Road bike - They go with the Ritchey Pro finishing kit I have on both bikes!!!

    I have Shimano Ultegra SPD-SL pedals for my Road bike as the groupset is Ultegra.

    Sidi road shoes with SPD-SL cleats and DIadora MTB shoues for SPD stuff. Pedals knacker quickly in winter - hence having summer and winter pedals and shoes!
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    DonDaddyD wrote:

    Ok, I suspect that the shiny new bike is likely to be a Viner or some such Italian Stalion. Isn't their an argument that such pedigree demands an aggressive race intended pedal to compliment it? I'm talking SPD-SL shoes.

    Basically:

    SPD = Giant Bowery
    SPD-SL for the new shiny bike (which I suspect is a Viner)

    Its not right to put anythin but SPD-SL on the supposed new shiny bike...

    DDD you make a compelling argument for buying 2 new pairs of shoes... I like it. :D

    However, both pairs of shoes will have to wait until after xmas... which is no biggie as the Bowery only has another 2 and a bit weeks of use before I head to Essex and the crappy roadie becomes my weapon of choice until the 5th of Jan.

    What with its having more than one gear, I should avoid any more unscheduled shoe removals...

    And for the new bike (not necessarily a Viner but I do heart it quite a lot right now) I'm thinking nice pedals, but don't know enough about what's out there to make an informed choice...


    Well I guess you've come to the right place!

    I'm sure someone will come in with advice about what SPD-SL pedals you should get.

    Edit: - Looks at posts above. Dang looks like some already has given advice.
    Food Chain number = 4

    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • il_principe
    il_principe Posts: 9,155
    My advice is don't get SPD-SL pedals! Speedpaly Zero's are the way to go!

    Also , IMHO you don't want to be pushing and pulling - spinning not pumping is where it's at.
  • lost_in_thought
    lost_in_thought Posts: 10,563
    edited December 2008
    My advice is don't get SPD-SL pedals! Speedpaly Zero's are the way to go!

    Also , IMHO you don't want to be pushing and pulling - spinning not pumping is where it's at.

    Interesting, interesting....

    And the push-and-pull is really only when I'm trying to accelerate from a standstill up to a reasonable speed, or from a very slow speed up to a reasonable speed - I don't have the strength to do the 'turbine not piston' thing for acceleration from a stop with my current gearing.

    EDIT: Yet... :twisted:
  • DonDaddyD
    DonDaddyD Posts: 12,689
    My advice is don't get SPD-SL pedals! Speedpaly Zero's are the way to go!

    Also , IMHO you don't want to be pushing and pulling - spinning not pumping is where it's at.

    Isn't spinning just a byproduct of the pushing and pulling of pedals at a higher cadence and easier gear?
    Food Chain number = 4

    A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    Just imagine you`re scraping sh#t off your shoe,it really works!
    Smarter than the average bear.
  • biondino
    biondino Posts: 5,990
    Eggbeaters! SPD-SLs are for racing and humiliating yourself in. All the (non-racers) I know who bought them really regretted it. Eggbeaters and recessed cleat soles! Like I've got!
  • antfly
    antfly Posts: 3,276
    biondino wrote:
    Eggbeaters! SPD-SLs are for racing and humiliating yourself in. All the (non-racers) I know who bought them really regretted it. Eggbeaters and recessed cleat soles! Like I've got!
    Are the eggbeaters any better than spd`s with the spd road type pedals?
    Smarter than the average bear.
  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    They must be. Biondino has them :wink:

    Wonder why they are called eggbeaters?
    Emerging from under a big black cloud. All help welcome
  • linsen wrote:
    They must be. Biondino has them :wink:

    Wonder why they are called eggbeaters?
    Could it be 'cause eggs are the only things you'll be able to scalp with them? :roll:

    (Please take that in jest, as I know nothing of these matters)
  • Jen J
    Jen J Posts: 1,054
    Meh. Just had my first undignified dismount from the Bowery. Left SPD refused to unclip, but as it normally unclips so easily I carried on dismounting anyway. Ended up sat on the pavement cuddling the bike :(
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  • linsen
    linsen Posts: 1,959
    Jen J wrote:
    Meh. Just had my first undignified dismount from the Bowery. Left SPD refused to unclip, but as it normally unclips so easily I carried on dismounting anyway. Ended up sat on the pavement cuddling the bike :(

    Sorry for laughing...
    :lol:
    Emerging from under a big black cloud. All help welcome
  • Best pedals: Eddy Merckx Podios. So good you can't buy them anywhere (they're good cos you can unclip and still pedal at full power without clipping back in - v useful in traffic).

    Otherwise, Speedplay Zero Titaniums. I can say they're my second choice with conviction cos I've got an unused pair in the cupboard. Wanna try 'em out? I have read that the cleats need covers if you walk on them for amy distance.
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  • Jen J wrote:
    Meh. Just had my first undignified dismount from the Bowery. Left SPD refused to unclip, but as it normally unclips so easily I carried on dismounting anyway. Ended up sat on the pavement cuddling the bike :(

    *tries not to laugh*

    *fails*


    :lol: