Backpacks

I know not everyone here favours them, but since I'm not drilling holes in my lovely carbon I am going to be sticking with rucksacks for the foreseeable future and I'm after recommendations.
I'd like a 20 to 30 litre waterproof rucksack of decent quality and the one that appealed most in my local outdoor sports shop was the Osprey Talon 22. Only thing is I can't tell if it's waterproof - the downloadable manual recommends a waterproofing treatment you can use with it - does that mean it is waterproof and this stuff will keep it so, or that it isn't and this stuff will make it so?
Anyway, please discuss this bag and any others you'd recommend (or otherwise).
I'd like a 20 to 30 litre waterproof rucksack of decent quality and the one that appealed most in my local outdoor sports shop was the Osprey Talon 22. Only thing is I can't tell if it's waterproof - the downloadable manual recommends a waterproofing treatment you can use with it - does that mean it is waterproof and this stuff will keep it so, or that it isn't and this stuff will make it so?
Anyway, please discuss this bag and any others you'd recommend (or otherwise).
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Very Hairy Roadie - FCN 4
Fixed Pista- FCN 5
Beared Bromptonite - FCN 14
This was learnt the hardway with lots of mountain walking.
Fixed FCN: 6
Ridgeback R25 - 1% bike
I used a Dakine pack before I switched to panniers, it was waterproof then and still is now, as I had to use it for a while after Gollum was nicked. It also had a water bladder in it which was handy.
But Litts is quite right in that the zips are never perfect - however you can wax them which helps enormously.
There are backpacks where a thin mesh and seemingly sprung construction lifts the pack itself away from your back - have seen them in the past but no idea who makes them.
EDIT:
Found it - made by Deuter - Aircomfort...
See here http://www.deuterusa.com/img/systems/advancedAircomfort.gif
Viner Maxima, Tifosi CK7, Giant Bowery, Old commuter.
"Impressive refinement and number of features set the Talon apart from other packs. AirScape backpanel with mesh covered ridge molded foam and air channels allow most of the surface area of your back to breathe and is highly comfortable. 4mm High-Density foam backpanel provides structural support for the pack. Adjustable torso system gives you a custom fit. In just a few seconds you can adjust the length of the pack harness for the best possible fit."
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http://www.backstretcher.com/english/it ... 6.135#rola
between your back and the bag (which will come in useful to cure the back ache afterwards) and put one of these
http://www.mikes-diving.co.uk/dry-bag-- ... -390-p.asp
Inside.
Hope that was helpful..
(I'm home sick and bored, so be nice)
Look 695 (Geared) - FCN 1
Bowman Palace:R - FCN 1
Cannondale CAAD 9 - FCN 2
Premier (CX) - FCN 6
Premier (fixed/SS) - FCN3
I've tried several backpaks and my favourite at the moment is http://www.alpkit.com/gourdon/
it's light comes in several sizes and colours and cheap reasonable pricewise.
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I've got the Race Exp Air 10-12L and the Trans Alpine 30L.
Both really good. Not water proof, but have waterproof cover attached in pocket at the bottom which works well.
http://2008etape.blogspot.com/
http://www.ba-joseph.co.uk/mtb/reviews/ ... euter.html
I don't think they do the cross air now. it's the back support i like.
Burls Ti Tourer for Tarmac, Saracen aluminium full suss for trails
So I have a bog standard backpack, I get a sweaty back and I wash when I get there. Job done
I agree with that. Has been bourne out with lots of walking here too. I use dry bags for clothes and things that need to stay dry.
I'm going to be getting a 17L Soloman (I think it is) bag. Super lightweight, no fiddly straps, 30 quid.
It has "air cooling" pads to allow airflow between the bag and your back. They don't stop sweat completely, but not bad. It's certainly showerproof too, but the carrier bag trick would be necessary for proper heavy rain. It does have a special cover which pulls out from a pocket at the bottom and covers the whole bag. Would be a good idea to use that in muddy conditions, but I keep forgetting about it till it's too late.
I also like the waist strap which has a couple of zip up pockets for keys, security pass, phone... stuff you want to hand without taking the bag off.
I'm sure there's hundreds of similar bags around, but just recommending one I'm happy with.
http://www.ortlieb.co.uk/product_info.p ... =backpacks
It is expensive, but I can guarantee absolutely waterproof. Ridges on the back allow air to circulate over your back so not too sweaty. It's been well worth the money-still in one piece despite daily use in all weather. Can't recommend highly enough.
Side pockets for my wallet, phone, keys etc
For £40 - £60.
I have a nike rucksack that does.
A true scalp is not only overtaking someone but leaving them stopped at a set of lights. As you, who have clearly beaten the lights, pummels nothing but the open air ahead. ~ 'DondaddyD'. Player of the Unspoken Game
http://www.alpkit.com/shop/cart.php?tar ... ory_id=251
I have this one:
http://www.ortlieb.co.uk/product_info.p ... =backpacks
Calls itself compact. I wouldn't describe it as that. I takes my full back length and where the roll top is a straight edge which means that it comes just above your shoulders so can be a bit of sail. That's the bad point.
The good point is that is absolutely waterproof even in prolonged torrential rain as experienced recently. It is large enough to carry the following, which I have done in the past, shirt, trousers, shoes, boxers, socks, deodrant, shower gel, tooth brush, toothpaste, mobile, pump, spare tube, mini tool, gym shorts, padlock, cycle lock and towel (don't think I have left anything out). Have now cut that all down substantially and therefore looking for something as waterproof but a bit smaller. Also in its favour is that it leaves my back considerably less sweaty than my previous backpack which was just a regular reebok one.
Would definitely recommend it as a great waterproof with plenty room enough for most people commuting needs.
but it's in pastel colours... so it's a right off... a man has to have standards
unless I missed the black option?
Very Hairy Roadie - FCN 4
Fixed Pista- FCN 5
Beared Bromptonite - FCN 14
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I think this iteration is rather tasty:
2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX
2020 Canyon Inflite SL 7
On the Strand
Crown Stables
Fixed FCN: 6
You can't help it, you are a .....
'Tis better than a rucksack though, far more spacious for one.
2020 Canyon Ultimate CF SLX
2020 Canyon Inflite SL 7
On the Strand
Crown Stables
Viner Maxima, Tifosi CK7, Giant Bowery, Old commuter.
almost as much as your bike?
Very Hairy Roadie - FCN 4
Fixed Pista- FCN 5
Beared Bromptonite - FCN 14
says the girl who paid 50pence for her road bike
Fixed FCN: 6