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  • dekant
    dekant Posts: 114
    Rhodrich wrote:
    Wore my full winter kit (Pearson winter jacket with no base layer, and bib tights), and regretted it though. Had to partially unzip my jacket half way to relieve the build up of heat.

    I don't have a problem with my torso as I can always add another layer quite easily but what do people do for legs below a certain temperature?

    Obviously I had leggings on over my shorts but at these temps it's not really warm enough and you can't really double layer leggings. What do people here do (other than just get on with it)?
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    dekant wrote:

    Obviously I had leggings on over my shorts but at these temps it's not really warm enough and you can't really double layer leggings. What do people here do (other than just get on with it)?

    Today was pro team "thermal" shorts and knee length ski socks, with padless dhb roubaix tights over the top. Warm.
  • That was a chilly one! Lovely and quiet though, fewer cars, bikes and peds than usual :D

    Visit from the PF was a bit annoying, my fingers didn't quite recover from pulling a Durano back onto the rim in Hyde Park. Think I picked it up at the lights crossing into the park at Albert gate, one of my least favourite lights for RLJers and this morning after I waited patiently as 3 or 4 other cyclists sailed through the red, the lights then skipped the bike green and went straight back to cars!! Having already started pulling away I deployed anchors and locked up the rear. I'm pretty sure skidding is the main cause of punctures (for me)

    No SCR this morning, chilled mode. Maybe later :D

    Edit: I don't really find leg temperature an issue. As long as hands, feet and head are okay then I layer/de-layer as required for my body
  • dekant
    dekant Posts: 114
    hopkinb wrote:
    Today was pro team "thermal" shorts and knee length ski socks, with padless dhb roubaix tights over the top. Warm.

    Seems we use the same tights although my shorts are just regular shorts. Hadn't considered using ski socks - I'll give that a go, thanks.
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    I either wear bibshorts with a pair of Gore leggings, or Sportful Fiandre long bibs which are also great. I don't ride bare knees below about 12 degrees, it might be psychological but a previous knee injury makes me want to keep them nice and toasty. Last winter I also suffered with a hip flexor injury, which was partly down to not stretching them but also I think that in very cold weather where I wore standard summer bibshorts plus leg warmers didn't help them, hence me wrapping up warmer this winter.
  • Re legs, my approach is bodgy in keeping with my general approach to cycling and life - padded MTB undershorts, a pair of full-length running leggings, and 3/4 bibs over the top. Takes a while to get dressed and undressed but works for me. Been wearing two base layers & arm warmers under my normal soft-shell this week, and two pairs of socks, natch.
  • kingdav
    kingdav Posts: 417
    I have some PlanetX windstopper bibs for these super cold days which were £21 in a Fibonacci sale a while ago. They don't seem to do the same thing any more but I imagine the Roubaix ones are similar. I didn't ride today because I'm off on holiday tonight but they were toasty yesterday morning.
  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    Rhodrich wrote:
    I see Rower's Garmin was recording -8C in RP this morning, and another guy who I know was recording -10C. Either way, that was pretty chilly! Wore my full winter kit (Pearson winter jacket with no base layer, and bib tights), and regretted it though. Had to partially unzip my jacket half way to relieve the build up of heat.

    Far fewer cyclists today. I think the resolutionist wave is receding....
    Yes it was nearly -9 degrees T* as I exited RP, which meant in reality -7 C . No discernible ice in RP, but some of the older stretches of tarmac are quite shiny, especially between Kingston Gate and Ham X, so difficult to tell...



    * -9 TGOTB, which is equivalent to -9 G
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    edited January 2019
    Anyone know what was going on around Waterloo Bridge/Aldwych earlier? I went through around 5 and there were long queues of traffic with much beeping of horns approaching the Aldwych/Strand/Bridge junction, and motorbike coppers directing traffic. Then on the other side of the bridge, there was a cop car blocking the northbound side. Rather odd.
    I had to drive in London yesterday and got stuck in it. Took me 3 hours to get home.

    It was the Black Cab protest, I assume against the ULEZ as about 30% of taxis are non-compliant. It literally started as I was going down Southampton Row, so i was right in the middle of it.
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  • elbowloh
    elbowloh Posts: 7,078
    dekant wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    Today was pro team "thermal" shorts and knee length ski socks, with padless dhb roubaix tights over the top. Warm.

    Seems we use the same tights although my shorts are just regular shorts. Hadn't considered using ski socks - I'll give that a go, thanks.
    Could you not get a pair each rather than share?
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    LOL

    -8.5G in the park for me, up to -0.8G in the City.

    Doubly cold through the park because my girlfriend was riding in today, and likes to ride together. Unfortunately her default speed (13-14mph on the flat today) seems to be fast enough to create a decent wind chill, without actually requiring enough effort to create any warmth. No wonder she's always cold!
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  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    elbowloh wrote:
    It was the Black Cab protest, I assume against the ULEZ as about 30% of taxis are non-compliant. It literally started as I was going down Southampton Row, so i was right in the middle of it.
    I thought they had an exemption?
    https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... his-page-2
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  • TGOTB wrote:
    elbowloh wrote:
    It was the Black Cab protest, I assume against the ULEZ as about 30% of taxis are non-compliant. It literally started as I was going down Southampton Row, so i was right in the middle of it.
    I thought they had an exemption?
    https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... his-page-2

    I think it's their automatic kneejerk reaction to anything which threatens their livelihoods. Not that they were made redundant by a Tomtom some 16 years ago.
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  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    elbowloh wrote:
    dekant wrote:
    hopkinb wrote:
    Today was pro team "thermal" shorts and knee length ski socks, with padless dhb roubaix tights over the top. Warm.

    Seems we use the same tights although my shorts are just regular shorts. Hadn't considered using ski socks - I'll give that a go, thanks.
    Could you not get a pair each rather than share?
    :D
    Shared body heat keeps us warmer...
  • kingstonian
    kingstonian Posts: 2,847
    TGOTB wrote:
    elbowloh wrote:
    It was the Black Cab protest, I assume against the ULEZ as about 30% of taxis are non-compliant. It literally started as I was going down Southampton Row, so i was right in the middle of it.
    I thought they had an exemption?
    https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/ultra- ... his-page-2

    I think it's their automatic kneejerk reaction to anything which threatens their livelihoods. Not that they were made redundant by a Tomtom some 16 years ago.


    Yeah, plus if they hadn't refused to take card payments for so many years and had been charging slightly more sensible fares they'd find way more people used them rather than defaulting to Uber. Zero sympathy, they are reaping what they sowed.

    An example on fares - I flew into London City airport at 9.30pm on Monday eve. An Uber would cost £48 to get me back to Kingston, and just for comparison I asked a black cab driver what he'd be charging - he told me it would be about £100 :shock: Needless to say I Uber'd it home, took 65 mins.
  • I laugh when cabbies say they're anti-Uber because of safety.

    They're not so all about safety when they're campaigning to have segregated cycle lanes removed. Or performing sudden u-turns.
  • tgotb
    tgotb Posts: 4,714
    I laugh when cabbies say they're anti-Uber because of safety.

    They're not so all about safety when they're campaigning to have segregated cycle lanes removed. Or performing sudden u-turns.
    Is this safety of other road users, or safety of passengers? My completely anecdotal impression is that black cab drivers tend to be more competent than minicab drivers, but that doesnt stop them being dangerous. I've only ever been hit by two cars whilst cycling in London; both were black cabs, and both did it on purpose.

    As for safety of passengers, at typical London traffic speeds I doubt many accidents result in significant injuries to the occupants.

    If it's getting in a car with an unknown driver that's a concern, neither black cabs nor Uber have a 100% track record, and I think I'd rather be in a vehicle whose location is being tracked constantly.
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  • rower63
    rower63 Posts: 1,991
    TGOTB wrote:
    ... I've only ever been hit by two cars whilst cycling in London; both were black cabs, and both did it on purpose...
    in my book that would also make them amongst the more competent of drivers, because I've seen plenty of others try to get you and miss...
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  • wolfsbane2k
    wolfsbane2k Posts: 3,056
    Quick question, back on the SCR topic.

    What's the FCN modifier for spiked tyres?
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  • TGOTB wrote:
    I laugh when cabbies say they're anti-Uber because of safety.

    They're not so all about safety when they're campaigning to have segregated cycle lanes removed. Or performing sudden u-turns.
    Is this safety of other road users, or safety of passengers? My completely anecdotal impression is that black cab drivers tend to be more competent than minicab drivers, but that doesnt stop them being dangerous. I've only ever been hit by two cars whilst cycling in London; both were black cabs, and both did it on purpose.

    As for safety of passengers, at typical London traffic speeds I doubt many accidents result in significant injuries to the occupants.

    If it's getting in a car with an unknown driver that's a concern, neither black cabs nor Uber have a 100% track record, and I think I'd rather be in a vehicle whose location is being tracked constantly.

    Remember that taking an uber just support all their incompetent driving being a thing of the past as they phase out the driver... 24,000 automated Volvos on order.
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  • Quick question, back on the SCR topic.

    What's the FCN modifier for spiked tyres?

    Depends on the terrain, they could be deemed as an advantage!
  • Quick question, back on the SCR topic.

    What's the FCN modifier for spiked tyres?

    Must be at least +1, they're hard work on the flat and bloody hard work up ~5% inclines! :twisted:
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    rower63 wrote:
    Rhodrich wrote:
    I see Rower's Garmin was recording -8C in RP this morning, and another guy who I know was recording -10C. Either way, that was pretty chilly! Wore my full winter kit (Pearson winter jacket with no base layer, and bib tights), and regretted it though. Had to partially unzip my jacket half way to relieve the build up of heat.

    Far fewer cyclists today. I think the resolutionist wave is receding....
    Yes it was nearly -9 degrees T* as I exited RP, which meant in reality -7 C . No discernible ice in RP, but some of the older stretches of tarmac are quite shiny, especially between Kingston Gate and Ham X, so difficult to tell...



    * -9 TGOTB, which is equivalent to -9 G

    I did a lap of the Tamsin trail and only clocked -4.5°C. Temperature varied by up to 2°C depending on where I was on the trail.

    Roubaix bib longs for me.
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    Yeah but how many pairs are you wearing?
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Chortle chortle...

    But I was wearing two buffs :)
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  • itboffin
    itboffin Posts: 20,064
    the snow has arrived with vigor here, its started about 2 hours ago and is about 5cm so far, dont get me wrong i like snow but bloody hell it brings everything to a halt and is a super PITA
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    Rule #9 // If you are out riding in bad weather, it means you are a badass. Period.
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    Rule #42 // A bike race shall never be preceded with a swim and/or followed by a run.
  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    Wfh tomorrow. May hit the RP trail again
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  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    Wfw. I have put cx tyres on. If I fall off twice in the first mile or so, I'm giving up.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,816
    Well that was disappointing. Took the old MTB hack in and even in Bushy Park it was just wet and slushy. Didn't see many people and absolutely nobody heading in my direction so no competition.
  • hopkinb
    hopkinb Posts: 7,129
    hopkinb wrote:
    Wfw. I have put cx tyres on. If I fall off twice in the first mile or so, I'm giving up.
    Cx tyres and headwind just made it effortful and slow. Weather forecasts are bollox.