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  • Initialised
    Initialised Posts: 3,047
    Why does it have to feel ten degrees colder in the morning than it ends up being for the ride home?
    I used to just ride my bike to work but now I find myself going out looking for bigger and bigger hills.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,926
    Why does it have to feel ten degrees colder in the morning than it ends up being for the ride home?
    At a guess, because it is 10 degrees colder in the morning.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,926
    In case enough people now don't hate me - I will also whiz past a car queue in another lane and cut in when it suits me.
    Don't try that in Norwich. Driving up a dual carriageway going ino Norwich (no idea which one) approaching a turn of there is a queue in the left hand lane. so as I'm going straight on and there is no end in sight to the right hand lane I carry on. I pass the exit, the queue isn't for the exit but carries on. I then pass a sign telling me the right hand lane ends in a mile, solid traffic on the left nothing in the right. I carry on a bit as I've gone that far I might as well carry on. After a bit I feel bad and decide I should move into the left hand lane. Try to merge neatly into a gap, but the inbreds are having none of it. Eventually I catch a sniff of a gap and I'm in, the guy I caught napping doesn't like this so pulls into the right hand lane alongside me, but doesn't pass anyone, just sits there, for - half - a - mile. The dual carriageway ends and becomes a regular two lane road, he's still right beside me. In the lane for oncoming traffic. Eventually the car in front of me waved him passed and he got back in the correct lane.
    I genuinely thought the beginning of the queue was for the slip road. Very odd, but normal for Norfolk I'm told.
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 30,003
    I do that.

    Queue jumping that is.

    If someone pulls me up it's a fair cop and I'll go to the back. I'll take my chances though.

    Having said that, 40% of the time I haven't even noticed a queue (like the queues at the tube doors at Canary wharf. Genuinely didn't notice them the first time walked passed the queue).

    Also, watch out for the invisible queue - usually found in pubs. Depending on the pub, jump this at your peril.
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,926
    rjsterry wrote:
    Also, watch out for the invisible queue - usually found in pubs. Depending on the pub, jump this at your peril.
    Very strict order of service when I was a barman. Good looking girls first, then mates, then regulars. Everybody else could wait.
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  • merkin
    merkin Posts: 452
    I KNEW IT! :x
  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 30,003
    edited April 2012
    Veronese68 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Also, watch out for the invisible queue - usually found in pubs. Depending on the pub, jump this at your peril.
    Very strict order of service when I was a barman. Good looking girls first, then mates, then regulars. Everybody else could wait.

    I've had the misfortune to be dragged to a couple of fancy cocktail bars that clearly operated this policy (combined with the even less edifying sight of rather desperate girls putting out to the greasy glass-jugglers). I still have flashbacks.

    A proper pub (like the Prince Arthur on Brunswick Place, for example) has a bar staffed by the middle-aged landlady (who calls you 'love').
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  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    SimonAH wrote:
    Which is what causes the queue jam. Which is why I friggin hate that behaviour and will NEVER let people in who do that. And if you cut in line in front of me in a pedestrian queue expect to be publicly and loudly humiliated. Manners cost nothing and make life nice - it works on a trust basis and is ruined by the 1% who flout the convention.

    It's actually people that don't do this that cause the problems. The idea is that two lines of traffic moving at roughly the same speed merge like a zip. Us Brits seem to be bad at this though.

    We end up with 1 massive line of traffic and an empty lane with a couple of cars at the front that people won't let in.
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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Veronese68 wrote:
    In case enough people now don't hate me - I will also whiz past a car queue in another lane and cut in when it suits me.
    Don't try that in Norwich. Driving up a dual carriageway going ino Norwich (no idea which one) approaching a turn of there is a queue in the left hand lane. so as I'm going straight on and there is no end in sight to the right hand lane I carry on. I pass the exit, the queue isn't for the exit but carries on. I then pass a sign telling me the right hand lane ends in a mile, solid traffic on the left nothing in the right. I carry on a bit as I've gone that far I might as well carry on. After a bit I feel bad and decide I should move into the left hand lane. Try to merge neatly into a gap, but the inbreds are having none of it. Eventually I catch a sniff of a gap and I'm in, the guy I caught napping doesn't like this so pulls into the right hand lane alongside me, but doesn't pass anyone, just sits there, for - half - a - mile. The dual carriageway ends and becomes a regular two lane road, he's still right beside me. In the lane for oncoming traffic. Eventually the car in front of me waved him passed and he got back in the correct lane.
    I genuinely thought the beginning of the queue was for the slip road. Very odd, but normal for Norfolk I'm told.

    Even if the first 5 don't let you in, one eventually will and you'll still be net ahead.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    merkin wrote:
    Pushing in smugly is probably not the best thing to do when you are only 6 stone dripping wet though. Sooner or later you will push in front of the wrong person on the wrong day and get unceremoniously thrown to the back of the queue where you belong. :lol:
    Totally agree with the lane closure thing though. No point leaving an empty lane there for all the audis and bmw's to use. :mrgreen:

    Pffft. I don't "push in front". That's a schoolboy error.

    If I've queue jumped successfully, no-one has noticed (at least, not until it's too late.)

    Point is - pick your queues - queues for food? No. Queues with families? No. Queues at theme parks? Not if you don't mind getting thrown out of the park within 2 seconds of trying.

    Queues on holiday. Absolutely yes. Especially if they're English. Queues at gigs? yes. Any queue involving a car is a yes too.

    Etc.



    In more rant related news.

    F*ck this weather.
  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    SimonAH wrote:
    Which is what causes the queue jam. Which is why I friggin hate that behaviour and will NEVER let people in who do that. And if you cut in line in front of me in a pedestrian queue expect to be publicly and loudly humiliated. Manners cost nothing and make life nice - it works on a trust basis and is ruined by the 1% who flout the convention.

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    well said that man!

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  • minor rant at self, the gramin HR has a release grip on it, so why for the past two days have i been strechinh it of my body to put on and off :oops: :evil:
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  • smegma
    smegma Posts: 11
    SimonAH wrote:
    Which is what causes the queue jam. Which is why I friggin hate that behaviour and will NEVER let people in who do that.

    No, it doesn't. Using both lanes and then 'merging in turn' (as per the Highway Code) reduces the length of a queue. All queueing in one lane and leaving the adjacent lane empty doubles the length of the queue and causes more congestion further back.
  • suzyb
    suzyb Posts: 3,449
    Veronese68 wrote:
    rjsterry wrote:
    Also, watch out for the invisible queue - usually found in pubs. Depending on the pub, jump this at your peril.
    Very strict order of service when I was a barman. Good looking girls first, then mates, then regulars. Everybody else could wait.
    So that's why I never get served until there is no one else waiting :evil:
    Mattsaw wrote:
    SimonAH wrote:
    Which is what causes the queue jam. Which is why I friggin hate that behaviour and will NEVER let people in who do that. And if you cut in line in front of me in a pedestrian queue expect to be publicly and loudly humiliated. Manners cost nothing and make life nice - it works on a trust basis and is ruined by the 1% who flout the convention.

    It's actually people that don't do this that cause the problems. The idea is that two lines of traffic moving at roughly the same speed merge like a zip. Us Brits seem to be bad at this though.

    We end up with 1 massive line of traffic and an empty lane with a couple of cars at the front that people won't let in.
    It's not queue jumping if both lanes are supposed to merge imho. It's queue jumping when, for example someone zooms up the exit lane when they aren't exiting.
  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    I should have gone out last night. Instead I saw the forecast, worked late and then missed the daylight. As I walked home through Regents Park, it was relatively dry and there were quite a few out training (guy on a Moots with deep section rims?)...

    So today's plan is to get into work early, finish early and squeeze in an hour before dinner. But the weather is going to be shite-awful, apparently.

    Then again, it might be a good opportunity - if I were sensible - to rest my aching knee.
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  • Dog Breath
    Dog Breath Posts: 314
    smegma wrote:
    SimonAH wrote:
    Which is what causes the queue jam. Which is why I friggin hate that behaviour and will NEVER let people in who do that.

    No, it doesn't. Using both lanes and then 'merging in turn' (as per the Highway Code) reduces the length of a queue. All queueing in one lane and leaving the adjacent lane empty doubles the length of the queue and causes more congestion further back.

    No it doesn't. Traffic is generally too heavy for that to work, and most of all people are too stupid. It's not a case of using a perfectly good (clear) lane, it's more a case of "I can't be bothered / am too self-important / too selfish to sit in a queue with everyone else" and go down the outside and try and push in at the front.

    On occasion, I have seen a HGV block the outside lane to prevent this happening and I applaud them for doing so. And I certainly don't let any of them in. What Rick and others say they do is selfish tw@ttery of the highest order.

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  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    Dog Breath wrote:
    smegma wrote:
    SimonAH wrote:
    Which is what causes the queue jam. Which is why I friggin hate that behaviour and will NEVER let people in who do that.

    No, it doesn't. Using both lanes and then 'merging in turn' (as per the Highway Code) reduces the length of a queue. All queueing in one lane and leaving the adjacent lane empty doubles the length of the queue and causes more congestion further back.

    No it doesn't. Traffic is generally too heavy for that to work, and most of all people are too stupid. It's not a case of using a perfectly good (clear) lane, it's more a case of "I can't be bothered / am too self-important / too selfish to sit in a queue with everyone else" and go down the outside and try and push in at the front.

    On occasion, I have seen a HGV block the outside lane to prevent this happening and I applaud them for doing so. And I certainly don't let any of them in. What Rick and others say they do is selfish tw@ttery of the highest order.

    DB

    In Holland, the law is that you must use both lanes and "zip" when it turns into one. I.e. one from the left lane, one from the right lane.

    Otherwise all that road is wasted.
  • cyclingprop
    cyclingprop Posts: 2,426
    Dog Breath wrote:
    smegma wrote:
    SimonAH wrote:
    Which is what causes the queue jam. Which is why I friggin hate that behaviour and will NEVER let people in who do that.

    No, it doesn't. Using both lanes and then 'merging in turn' (as per the Highway Code) reduces the length of a queue. All queueing in one lane and leaving the adjacent lane empty doubles the length of the queue and causes more congestion further back.

    No it doesn't. Traffic is generally too heavy for that to work, and most of all people are too stupid. It's not a case of using a perfectly good (clear) lane, it's more a case of "I can't be bothered / am too self-important / too selfish to sit in a queue with everyone else" and go down the outside and try and push in at the front.

    On occasion, I have seen a HGV block the outside lane to prevent this happening and I applaud them for doing so. And I certainly don't let any of them in. What Rick and others say they do is selfish tw@ttery of the highest order.

    DB

    In Holland, the law is that you must use both lanes and "zip" when it turns into one. I.e. one from the left lane, one from the right lane.

    Otherwise all that road is wasted.

    Yeah but you like orange, tulips, windmills, flat and clogs. I mean CLOGS.

    Therefore your opinion is valid. Clogs indeed.
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  • Rain...

    Just got a new new bike, in white - white frame, white saddle, white bar tape... white, no fittings for mud guards.

    .... :evil:
  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    riding along the cycle path this morning, nodder in front of me on the right hand side of the track so i go to get past him, just as i pull up to him he "hocks a loogy" god knows how i didnt get covered in spit

    the guy apologised but still, its pretty fecking minging
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  • to the idiot TFL Zafira driver that decided to do a u turn in front of me leaving me 10 secs to try and stop from 22mph to dead, just made it with a mm of space left, although the back wheel came off the ground and now have friction burn and bruise on my leg, its a good job he didnt get out of the car otherwise he would be visting romford hospital. this bloody headwind two days in a row now its against me no matter which direction i travel and also a visit from the PF this morning not a good week so far. :(
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  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,926
    Front brake cable snapped this morning. Thankfully it was in Bushy Park so a quick detour across the grass and no harm done. I know what I'll be doing at lunchtime.
    It's quite exciting riding in traffic with only a rear canti brake. Glad I'd just replaced the rear pads, that would have been disastrous last week.
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  • bunter
    bunter Posts: 327
    bunter wrote:
    Visit from the PF today (rear wheel, through a marathon +). Pull out my tools only to find my fancy Lezyne micro drive pump is broken - the little plastic collar that the valve adaptor screws onto has shattered, rendering the whole thing completely useless. All that CNC goodness brought to nothing by a sh*tty bit of plastic! argh!

    Quick update: Wiggle wanted me to send the pump back for them to look at (I would have thought the photo of the broken flip chuck adaptor would be enough) so I contacted Lezyne directly. They told me the part has been redesigned and sent me a new one to fit myself. I can't see any difference but it works fine so far... Lezyne were very helpful.
  • mattsaw
    mattsaw Posts: 907
    to the idiot TFL Zafira driver that decided to do a u turn in front of me leaving me 10 secs to try and stop from 22mph to dead, just made it with a mm of space left, although the back wheel came off the ground and now have friction burn and bruise on my leg, its a good job he didnt get out of the car otherwise he would be visting romford hospital. this bloody headwind two days in a row now its against me no matter which direction i travel and also a visit from the PF this morning not a good week so far. :(

    To be fair, 10 seconds is quite a lot of time to stop from 22mph. Are you riding an oil tanker?
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  • well actually 10 sec was a bit exagerated more like 5 :D, but the fact that the bloke then stopped in the middle of the road more to my side, with no where to avoid didnt help, and the fact it was wet, virtually no brakes till mm away from hitting the car :shock:
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  • I'm having a bad day. On my way to work the hooks on my pannier both snapped leaving me about 8 miles to ride with pannier precariously balanced on the rack secured with a single bungee. Looks like I can only get replacement from Germany, unless anyone knows differently? Link to hooks here.

    Think I'll need to leave the pannier at work tonight and ride home without the safety blanket of a spare tube, pump and toolkit. :cry:

    Oh yes and when did it become the norm to pass oncoming cyclists on the right? Had 3 different bikes try to take the 'wrong' side this morning. :evil:
    Nobody told me we had a communication problem
  • Spent a couple of hours cleaning the MTB on the weekend only for all my hard work to be undone in one very, wet muddy ride to work... Still I do enjoy it :-) Hoping for heavy rain tomorrow, might shift some of the thick cacky crap.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,926
    I'm having a bad day. On my way to work the hooks on my pannier both snapped leaving me about 8 miles to ride with pannier precariously balanced on the rack secured with a single bungee. Looks like I can only get replacement from Germany, unless anyone knows differently? Link to hooks here.
    Have you looked at SJS? They have loads of different hooks for panniers.
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  • 22 miles into the inaugural Buachaille Mhor Sportive on Sunday when my rear gear cable snapped. Limped to marshal point a mile on to be told that the nearest mechanical help was 30 miles down the road. Stuck in 50-11 or 39-11, thirty lumpy miles later and with bulging quads, I arrive at said stop to find the mechanic has no replacement cables. Grrrr. He fixed my rear derailleur halfway up the block to make life a bit easier, but it was still another thirty miles to the next stop where I got a fix. Sixty miles with two gears. How we laughed. Cost me a decent time and just about killed me, but other than that a marvellous 170K day. At least it didn't rain.....
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  • Tricycleboy
    Tricycleboy Posts: 373
    22 miles into the inaugural Buachaille Mhor Sportive on Sunday when my rear gear cable snapped. Limped to marshal point a mile on to be told that the nearest mechanical help was 30 miles down the road. Stuck in 50-11 or 39-11, thirty lumpy miles later and with bulging quads, I arrive at said stop to find the mechanic has no replacement cables. Grrrr. He fixed my rear derailleur halfway up the block to make life a bit easier, but it was still another thirty miles to the next stop where I got a fix. Sixty miles with two gears. How we laughed. Cost me a decent time and just about killed me, but other than that a marvellous 170K day. At least it didn't rain.....

    Well done to you sir! A lesser man would have waited for the broom wagon. :)