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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    dhope wrote:
    Ben6899 wrote:

    3. Self-service checkouts. Lots of folk without jobs at the moment. W@nkers using self-service checkouts are not helping this. If we all agreed to snub the automated option and instead make a small sacrifice by queuing, then Sainsburys et al might get the message. That is, of course, if you don't mind paying to support folk who can't find work.

    More importantly, don't offend me by putting a machine that barks orders at me.

    But yes, that too.

    Couldn't agree less. No point creating jobs for no reason. Self service tills are generally crap but ditching them in favour of employing people simply because otherwise they wouldn't be employed is entirely the wrong reason for ditching them.
    Create jobs for people making things, fixing things, not people to continue mundane jobs like scanning my shopping.

    Job creation is not THE reason for ditching them. Merely a by-product.

    They are being ditched (in my ideal little world) because they're fuck1ng sh1te.
    Ben

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  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,960
    Yep, my latest thing for room 101 is self service checkouts - especially the ones that tell you to put the feckin item in the bag when you already have done, then freeze until an assitant has sorted it. This happens about every third item so I've told them I will not use them again even if I've only got one thing to buy.

    As for the idea that machines are bad because they do someone out of a menial job...well that would have been the industrial revolution screwed :rolleyes:
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  • Stevo 666 wrote:
    Yep, my latest thing for room 101 is self service checkouts - especially the ones that tell you to put the feckin item in the bag when you already have done, then freeze until an assitant has sorted it. This happens about every third item so I've told them I will not use them again even if I've only got one thing to buy.

    As for the idea that machines are bad because they do someone out of a menial job...well that would have been the industrial revolution screwed :rolleyes:

    Maybe you could buy wooden shoes and pay for them in the self service checkout then explode in irony....
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  • sketchley
    sketchley Posts: 4,238
    The barcode scanners you get in waitrose that you scan stuff with as you are going round then simply pay as you are leaving are very good.
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  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    Sainsbury's have been doing that for years.

    Obviously there's a lower standard of clientele than at Waitrose, so occasionally you get pulled up for a 'random' check, where your whole trolley is rescanned to make sure you're not nicking stuff.

    I'm sure you have to 'log in' with your nectar card, or something, so the chance of being pulled for a check depends on how many 'dodgy' items have been found on previous random checks. Unfortunately, sometimes stuff doesn't scan correctly, especially the newly reduced/clearance stuff, and it obviously goes on your 'file' as an attempt to nick stuff.....which makes you more likely to be checked again. So on a family's weekly shop, there's a fair chance that at least one thing won't scan properly, so you'll take the extra few seconds to scan each item in, then you get to the till and you have to unload and repack the whole trolley! Then, because you've done a huge shop it's likely that one 'dodgy' thing will be found, even if it's you scanning it at full price rather than a discounted rate, and you'll end up always getting 'randomly' selected.
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  • bails87 wrote:
    Sainsbury's have been doing that for years.

    Obviously there's a lower standard of clientele than at Waitrose, so occasionally you get pulled up for a 'random' check, where your whole trolley is rescanned to make sure you're not nicking stuff.

    (...snick.....
    I keep getting caught nicking stuff at Sainsburys

    FTFY
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  • bails87
    bails87 Posts: 12,998
    bails87 wrote:
    Sainsbury's have been doing that for years.

    Obviously there's a lower standard of clientele than at Waitrose, so occasionally you get pulled up for a 'random' check, where your whole trolley is rescanned to make sure you're not nicking stuff.

    (...snick.....
    I keep getting caught nicking stuff at Sainsburys

    FTFY

    I'll have you know it was my mother! :lol:
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Stevo 666 wrote:
    As for the idea that machines are bad because they do someone out of a menial job...well that would have been the industrial revolution screwed :rolleyes:

    You've only read selected sentences haven't you? Go on, you can admit it to us, you little tinker.
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  • rolf_f
    rolf_f Posts: 16,015
    Ben6899 wrote:
    3. Self-service checkouts. Lots of folk without jobs at the moment. W@nkers using self-service checkouts are not helping this. If we all agreed to snub the automated option and instead make a small sacrifice by queuing, then Sainsburys et al might get the message. That is, of course, if you don't mind paying to support folk who can't find work.

    Plus another. I have never used one and I never will. Fortunately, as I never go into supermarkets I rarely see them but, B&Q alas......

    Of course, even if you don't use them you can still hear the bastard creations. I feel sorry for the poor remaining checkout staff who have it in the background all day.
    Faster than a tent.......
  • Stevo_666
    Stevo_666 Posts: 61,960
    Ben6899 wrote:
    You've only read selected sentences haven't you? Go on, you can admit it to us, you little tinker.
    No, I read all 3 lines of it ;-)
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  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Fecking fridge. Froze my yoghurt.
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  • dhope wrote:
    Fecking fridge. Froze my yoghurt.

    There is a dial in it that controls the temperature... Technology fail... :wink:
  • dhope
    dhope Posts: 6,699
    Mr Sworld wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Fecking fridge. Froze my yoghurt.

    There is a dial in it that controls the temperature... Technology fail... :wink:

    Fridge is at work, someone else has been toying with it.
    I bet Rick Chasey doesn't have to deal with this shit.
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  • suzyb
    suzyb Posts: 3,449
    Or the fridge could be farked or someone could have left the door open.

    Food was being frozen in the fridge at the office I work in. Turned out it was because the fridge was dead.
  • rick_chasey
    rick_chasey Posts: 75,660
    dhope wrote:
    Mr Sworld wrote:
    dhope wrote:
    Fecking fridge. Froze my yoghurt.

    There is a dial in it that controls the temperature... Technology fail... :wink:

    Fridge is at work, someone else has been toying with it.
    I bet Rick Chasey doesn't have to deal with this shoot.

    Way harsh.
  • It's the self-checkouts that offer cash back... but obviously, you have to wait for someone to come and authorise it so what the heck's the point?!?!
  • Thanks very much to the tosser with a crappy Allez (quelle surprise) who parked it in "my" space right over the top of my lock, meaning i had to grovel on the floor and grub around a filthy chain to release my lock. (I realise i don't *actually* own the space but there was one free two down that I used... once I had repatriated my lock). PS count yourself lucky I didn't help myself to the knog rear light you had left simply bungeed to your seatpost you giant numpty.
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  • Ben6899
    Ben6899 Posts: 9,686
    Thanks very much to the tosser with a crappy Allez (quelle surprise) who parked it in "my" space right over the top of my lock, meaning i had to grovel on the floor and grub around a filthy chain to release my lock. (I realise i don't *actually* own the space but there was one free two down that I used... once I had repatriated my lock). PS count yourself lucky I didn't help myself to the knog rear light you had left simply bungeed to your seatpost you giant numpty.

    It's always an Allez! :D
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  • redvee
    redvee Posts: 11,922
    Can I have another rant at CityLink? I ordered from Wiggle and had an emaiol confirmation stating my order was being delivered via CityLink on monday. CityLink attempted a delivery on wednesday and 'left a card' as they did on thursday but I had already opted for collection from depot on saturday. Fast forward to saturday morning when I join the queue of other people collecting their parcels at the CityLink depot, of those waiting only 25% walked out with all of the parcels they had come to collect. I was there in total 2 hours, the explanation for not being able to find my parcel was that ParcelForce and DHL had stopped collections and CityLink had the work dropped on them, whatever the reason the service was very poor and I want to order from other companies that only use CL :(
    I've added a signature to prove it is still possible.
  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    Dagnammit i got a "visit" someone between putting my bike away an getting my bike out this morning.

    pumped tyre up this morning "hisssssssssssssssssssss" swollocks!

    I rode on it until work as its only 6 miles got to work but it was like riding though cheese...bad times

    (marathon +'s too!!)
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  • Gussio
    Gussio Posts: 2,452
    To the f*cktard in a silver VW Bora on the URR at 0650 this morning - if you take your hoodie off you will discover something called peripheral vision which in turn will help you avoid coming within an inch of knocking me off with your mirrors.
  • veronese68
    veronese68 Posts: 27,895
    redvee wrote:
    Can I have another rant at CityLink? I ordered from Wiggle and had an emaiol confirmation stating my order was being delivered via CityLink on monday. CityLink attempted a delivery on wednesday and 'left a card' as they did on thursday but I had already opted for collection from depot on saturday. Fast forward to saturday morning when I join the queue of other people collecting their parcels at the CityLink depot, of those waiting only 25% walked out with all of the parcels they had come to collect. I was there in total 2 hours, the explanation for not being able to find my parcel was that ParcelForce and DHL had stopped collections and CityLink had the work dropped on them, whatever the reason the service was very poor and I want to order from other companies that only use CL :(

    Knock, Knock, Ginger or Knocky Door Ginger were the names for a game dating back to 19th century England or possibly before to the Cornish traditional holiday of Nickanan Night. This game or prank is played by children in many cultures. It involves knocking on the front door (or ringing the doorbell) of a victim, then running away before the door can be answered.[1]


    I think Wikipedia need to update this. Now days, I think they call this City Link.
  • clarkey cat
    clarkey cat Posts: 3,641
    Knock, Knock, Ginger or Knocky Door Ginger were the names for a game dating back to 19th century England or possibly before to the Cornish traditional holiday of Nickanan Night. This game or prank is played by children in many cultures. It involves knocking on the front door (or ringing the doorbell) of a victim, then running away before the door can be answered.[1]

    Scum. Subhuman scum.
  • mudcow007
    mudcow007 Posts: 3,861
    Knock, Knock, Ginger or Knocky Door Ginger were the names for a game dating back to 19th century England or possibly before to the Cornish traditional holiday of Nickanan Night. This game or prank is played by children in many cultures. It involves knocking on the front door (or ringing the doorbell) of a victim, then running away before the door can be answered.[1]

    Scum. Subhuman scum.

    Knock & Run its known as around these ways......
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  • mudcow007 wrote:
    Knock, Knock, Ginger or Knocky Door Ginger were the names for a game dating back to 19th century England or possibly before to the Cornish traditional holiday of Nickanan Night. This game or prank is played by children in many cultures. It involves knocking on the front door (or ringing the doorbell) of a victim, then running away before the door can be answered.[1]

    Scum. Subhuman scum.

    Knock & Run its known as around these ways......

    We always called it Thunder and Lightning

    Knock like Thunder
    Run like Lightning
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    I'm currently contracted to a company that couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and it's beginning to make me feel like I'm suffering from some kind of mental illness; something in the bi-polar spectrum.

    I come to work ready for a fight, within an hour someone (usually whoever I was angry with) is introducing something that will solve all my problems and everything is sweetness and light. However, I soon discover that I was disillusioned and actually they are just throwing away everything we have done and are throwing a whole new set of problems in my direction and so I go home angry.

    The worst thing is that they issues are the result of either people who shouldn't care about implementation or standards having just enough information to be dangerous and fiddling or false constructs such as estimated completion dates based on t-short sizing a backlog.

    Honestly give me a Kanban board some devs versant in BDD and a scrum master who just tells everyone else to fuck off and I can get a product shipped under budgeted, over minimum spec and one time.

    It's not as difficult as these fuckers make out. Maybe they just hate money and like to watch it burn?
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  • rjsterry
    rjsterry Posts: 29,895
    Asprilla wrote:
    I'm currently contracted to a company that couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and it's beginning to make me feel like I'm suffering from some kind of mental illness; something in the bi-polar spectrum.

    I come to work ready for a fight, within an hour someone (usually whoever I was angry with) is introducing something that will solve all my problems and everything is sweetness and light. However, I soon discover that I was disillusioned and actually they are just throwing away everything we have done and are throwing a whole new set of problems in my direction and so I go home angry.

    The worst thing is that they issues are the result of either people who shouldn't care about implementation or standards having just enough information to be dangerous and fiddling or false constructs such as estimated completion dates based on t-short sizing a backlog.

    Honestly give me a Kanban board some devs versant in BDD and a scrum master who just tells everyone else to fark off and I can get a product shipped under budgeted, over minimum spec and one time.

    It's not as difficult as these idiots make out. Maybe they just hate money and like to watch it burn?
    Been a while since there was a really good rant. I've only a vague idea of what you are talking about, but it does sound like the recurrent problems of design by committee, combined with the inability of certain clients to take the advice they have just paid for.
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  • asprilla
    asprilla Posts: 8,440
    rjsterry wrote:
    Asprilla wrote:
    I'm currently contracted to a company that couldn't organise a piss-up in a brewery and it's beginning to make me feel like I'm suffering from some kind of mental illness; something in the bi-polar spectrum.

    I come to work ready for a fight, within an hour someone (usually whoever I was angry with) is introducing something that will solve all my problems and everything is sweetness and light. However, I soon discover that I was disillusioned and actually they are just throwing away everything we have done and are throwing a whole new set of problems in my direction and so I go home angry.

    The worst thing is that they issues are the result of either people who shouldn't care about implementation or standards having just enough information to be dangerous and fiddling or false constructs such as estimated completion dates based on t-short sizing a backlog.

    Honestly give me a Kanban board some devs versant in BDD and a scrum master who just tells everyone else to fark off and I can get a product shipped under budget, over minimum spec and on time.

    It's not as difficult as these idiots make out. Maybe they just hate money and like to watch it burn?
    Been a while since there was a really good rant. I've only a vague idea of what you are talking about, but it does sound like the recurrent problems of design by committee, combined with the inability of certain clients to take the advice they have just paid for.

    Pretty much. They just don't understand how successful IT projects are actually developed and they like to fiddle. The ultimate product owner is ex-Google and consequently thinks he knows a thing or two about how things should be done; what he actually know is how to do things if you have Google's resources.

    Also, I know I'm a contractor and as such am scum of the earth, but at least I'm not a big 4 consultant; I've got a special circle of hell reserved for those feckers. Yes, you have access to a tremendous library of resources, yes you are trained to do things is a certain workable fashion and yes you are a knowledge work bring that valuable knowledge to this company but, and this is a big but, you charge about three times what I do (I know you only get a fraction of this but that doesn't matter) and as a result I want to see you sweating blood though your eyeballs before you ask an equally overworked member of permenant staff to do something that you were tasked with delivering. Arseholes.
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  • cjcp
    cjcp Posts: 13,345
    So, you're commute may change next year then? :lol:
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