Sports Drinks/What Fluid
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Good man
It does taste pretty sweet, plus you can do it is an many flavours as you want!0 -
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gettricky wrote:@bigbenj_08 good post dude
cheers mate... probably the only interesting thing from my degree gone to good use
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What's a good fruit squash to use for the 2nd recipe? Any particaular preference?0
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Anything really... I tend to use either orange or apple squash.
The new tesco double concentrates are awesome for making your own
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Cheers.
Is it the juice that you normally dilute with water?0 -
Great thread big benj
got 2 questions for you...
Why do I need to drink so much and what would I be better off drinking?
Sunday - Hot day in the UK - I went on a 7 hour ride including 2 hours of stops for lunch and a break.
Pre trip - 1L water and 1L protein shake pre trip
During - 3L of water and 2l of protein shake and one large mocha.
Post - 250ml mix orange,water salt. 2L water 1L Protein shake
My lips were cracking up throughout the trip which is my personal indicator of hydration.
And I only peed 3 times from 6am to midnight - all dark despite drinking 10.5litres
Then about 3,4,5,6,7,8 and 9am the pee was clear!
So from what I think your thread is saying I would be better off switching to making up one of these isotonic drinks instead of carrying around all this water?
My only concern is that I'm really trying to lose weight and would rather not drink any calories. Protein is definitely required tho' as I'm not getting enough as it is so I'm not going to cut my protein shakes out.
One of the things previously stated by bigbenj was
"The idea behind carbohydrate in the drink is to give the athlete more fuel for energy and to balance the fluid concentration. Carbs are the main source of energy in events that last over 10 seconds, and when they run out fat is used instead (when fat is used it is called "hitting the wall" as not enough energy can be made via this pathway)."
So since I primarily need to lose an abundance of fat wouldnt 'hitting the wall' be most advantageous for me?
In which case I should just stick to water and straight protein shakes.
Thanks for any advice.0 -
Sorry... I must have missed your question.
You need to drink fluid because it is almost impossible to replace what is lost during exercise.... the better hydrated you are, the easier it is for your body to make energy, the easier it is for the body to remove lactic acid and can also improve recovery.
With regards to losing weight via fat loss, the calorie count in an isotonic drink wouldn't make much of an impact.... the carbs are just to "top up" and give the body a small energy boost, which could mean you can push harder and further + therfore burn more fat in the long run.
If you are that concerned you could try a hypotonic drink first, a low carb concentration that would supply your body with fluid at a better rate than water alone.0 -
Cheers mate.
Sounds like I need a lot more hydration to deal with the burn.
So if you make one yourself then about 1/4 bottle orange Juice, topped with water and a pinch of salt?0 -
TimesLikeThese
200ml ordinary fruit squash
800ml water
A pinch of salt
or
50-70g sugar
One litre of warm water
Pinch of salt
200ml of sugar free squash
Mix, cool and drink 0 -
supersonic wrote:True! I sometimes take a bit more vitamin C if getting a cold, and does help me as I have chronic glandular fever. Turns your wee a very funny shade!
feed a cold.i.e..... eat more
starve a fevour....i.e...... dont eat alot0 -
got a question chaps. instead of starting a thread as this seems to be the right place
these said home made drinks would they work for doing the london to brighton. 54 mile so about 4 to 5 hours road riding0 -
Always got confused between those hyper drinks and isotonic, but the way they look makes the isotonic seem healthier. Will be taking this info into my next bike ride 0
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Thanks guys, this is really helpful; I ALWAYS get bad post-ride headaches despite sipping plenty of water, I'm off to buy some SIS go electrolyte!*** 2005 Hardrock XC rigid in 'Dream' silver ***0
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This is a very interesting thread. Thanks bigbenj_08.
Are there any limits to the intake of isotonic drinks like Gatorade?
Here in Thailand, I sweat enormously in the heat, and from what you have written it sounds like it is better to drink Gatorade during the ride etc.
But what if it is a very long ride like 200+kms - would you advise not drinking too much Gatorade or simply to drink 2/300ml every hour or so regardless?
In Thailand, where Red Bull originates, it is very different from the Red Bull you get in the UK as it is much, much stronger. It even comes with a government health warning here that no more than two of the very small bottles should be consumed in a day. I think that is due to caffeine levels or something.
I normally drink one Lipovitan which is similar to Red Bull before the ride, as it helps to wake me up and gives me an energy boost.0 -
Hi there.
Sorry abot this short reply, on my iPhone and on holliday
in a very hot climate, I'd suggest hypotonic drinks as you will require lots more fluid than normal. Plus with sweating so much, you will desperately need to replace the salts lost in you're sweat..... Which is why water alone isn't ideal.
Using some sugary snack such as jelly babies would help give the required energy.
Take on fluid as often as possible, it will be very difficult to become over hydrated in such a climate.
Remember the pre exercise fluid bolus too... Extremely important to prime your stomach.
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Thanks very much Ben, really appreciate your comments. Have a great holiday!0
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I have a question on sodium intake. Say you go all week with no exercise and eat more than RDA of sodium each day. You then do a lot of exercise at the weekend. Does the excess sodium you ate during the week get used here, thus decreasing the harmful effects of excess sodium consumption and lessening the need to take sodium during exercise? Or has the excess sodium consumed during the week already done its damage (blood pressure etc) and is no longer available?0
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i have just come across a great product called elete.. not that i want to plug it but has anyone heard of it???
It is an electrolyte replacement but unlike SIS and Nuun is pure elctrolytes and makes water taste like water plus only 25ml (tiny) does an amazing 10liters!! so its easy to carry around.
Anyoone interested in gaining some extra indurance, hydration and recovery time should deffinatly take a look (eletewater.co.uk)
Hope this helps
William0 -
hi guys. new to the whole energy drink thing. i bought some maximuscle viper. i used it in a 30k race. i found it made me super thirsty which ment i drank 1L in 1.5 hours (is that normal) im not the fittest but i was going as hard as i can. i also started cramping badly in my legs( took me 3 hours to finish race) before the race i drank a bottle of lucasade sport ( the still orange bottle).
i had another 30k race 4 weeks later had my bottle of lucasade before the race but only took water 1.5L and energy sweets (shots) i with me this time too and the water nearly lasted to the end of the race (2hours) i finished much higher up in the race this time too and did not get any cramps in my legs.
am i using the viper wrong/ i mixed it as per the instructions.
i use recover max after a cycle and i find its unreal. legs always feel like new the next day0 -
Are you mixing up up as follows?During training (Isotonic): Mix 1-1.25 scoops (approx 30-40g) in 500ml of water.
At high intensity exercise in (hot conditions) you should be trying to drink 200-300ml every 10-20 mins (obviously this isn't always doable, but always try to drink something every 10-20 mins)... so would say that you're not drinking enough.... hense the cramp.
You will have felt better on the second attempt most probably due to priming your stomach for fluid intake before the race (drinking fluid before your event).
If you have a read of the OP, some of that might help quite a bit.0 -
yea mixed it as the instructions said. isotonic. so would i be right in saying that the fact it makes me so thirsty when im using it i can feel the liquid in my stomach is normal?
going on a 3-4 hour spin this saturday will mix up 1.5l of viper in my camel pack and see how it goes0 -
like I said... have a 500ml drink 1-2hours before exercise to prime your stomach for fluid intake.
It sounds like your taking on the fluid, but your body can't absorb it quickly enough because it hasn't had enough time to adjust.0 -
Top thread bigbenj, well done.
Before I set off I juice:
2 oranges
1 apple
mass handful of spinach [ek ek ek ek!]
1 pear
1 lemon (for taste)
3 carrots
lump of fennel
Then I take High5 4:1 for the journey. This really does the trick. The whey protein does help with rides over 3 hours, with pain and stamina.
I just find it hard to eat first thing in the morning when I set out. And then I can't eat when I'm warmed up on the trails.0 -
Caffeine is a vasoconstrictor but a little bit is beneficial. If you care about your health, taking gallons of high sugar sports drinks is not advisable, even if promoted by a budding sports nutrionist. Eat and drink sensibly unless you want diabetes.
Meanwhile
Scientists At The University Of Sydney Tested Out Four Different Pre-Race Feeds:
1. Boiled lentils
2. Baked potatoes
3. Isotonic drink
4. Plain water
Volunteers cycling to exhaustion averaged 117 minutes with the lentils, compared with 108 minutes for the isotonic drink and 97 minutes with potatoes. There seemed to be a link to blood glucose levels - after 90 minutes, blood glucose was about 20 per cent higher for the lentil eaters compared to those who took the isotonic drink.0 -
Hi,
Can I suggest you try elete, a sports drink concentrate specifically designed for optimum and hydration and to prevent and halt cramping.
I have to declare an interest as I am involved with the company that makes elete and has the distribution rights for this product. However, I am absolutely convinced elete will sort out your hydration needs and your cramps.
I would be very happy to send you a bottle to try free of charge, just contact me at adrian@ikonassociates.com with your details and will have some sent to you.
Can I also suggest you visit our website http://www.eletewater.co.ukwhich has lots of information about elete, how it works and the science behind it etc.
I also set out below a summary of the key information about elete:
elete™, is an ionically charged sports drink concentrate, which I am genuinely confident is the most effective hydration product on the market today.
The reason for its effectiveness is that it contains all four electrolytes which are necessary for proper hydration (magnesium, sodium, potassium and chloride) and that these are each in totally ionic form (again necessary for effective hydration). No other sports/hydration products contain this mix of electrolytes.
As well as hydrating remarkably efficeintly, elete™ stops cramping, enhances energy production by the body and maintains mental focus. Furthermore, a peer reviewed study indicated that when using elete™, 40% less water is needed to hydrate properly. (A copy of the full report is on our website).
elete™ is derived from the inland sea water from the Great Salt Lake in Utah and contains the four electrolytes mentioned above plus over 70 other trace and ultra-trace elements. It is 100% natural, has zero calories, zero carbs, zero sugar or sweeteners, no additives of any sort - it is simply the electrolytes above plus the trace and ultra- trace elements and water.
It comes in a concentrated form and is just added to water, juice, any drink or food (hot or cold). It can be added to other sports nutrition products such as carb drinks or gels or protien mixes.
The price is also cheaper than any other product on the market - a 25ml at £6.49 pocket bottle makes up 20 x 500ml drinks , making a cost per drink of only 32.5p.
All the best
Adrian Shaw 0 -
Nice posts
Im using Asda's own Isotonic and Lucozade dextrose sweets
I usually feel FANTASTIC a few hours after my cycle ride0 -
I'm looking to make a drink which won't wreck the inside of my camel back as I can't be bothered to clean after every ride. I was thinking:
1ltr water + pinch salt + tsp sugar
don't want to add squash as my camel back will be horrible after a few months of use? Is there anything else I could add for carb intake?0 -
End of the day .... A drink is a drink ..
All those so called energy drinks are the biggest load of BS ever because it's all down to clever marketing and advertising .. and getting some Sports personality to advetise it
And the lucozade clear it is the same gear without the adding of any colouring and same applies with the still variant is just without CO'2 Carbon dioxide to give it that fizz ...
Christ you don't see the makers of lucozade openly send free of charge there sports drinks by the crate load to the soldiers serving in afghaistan ... or in Iraq .. to help them bolster up there energy ...to drink after every Patrol
And it's not even part of MOD issued army rations ...0
