Sports Drinks/What Fluid

njee20

I'm a big fan of Elete, when added to High5 while racing it's totally stopped me cramping, Zym had a similar effect, but I ran out of energy too quickly.

As a complete aside It seems Adrian and I are from the same village too.

aneesh99

Quality post with genuine knowledge behind the statements, great stuff

sampras38

njee20 wrote:

I'm a big fan of Elete, when added to High5 while racing it's totally stopped me cramping, Zym had a similar effect, but I ran out of energy too quickly.

As a complete aside It seems Adrian and I are from the same village too.

I tend to use it with Hi-5 as well, or a mix of orange or apple squash.

Certainly does the trick for me.

desmojen

I too received a free sample of Elete from Adrian, having contacted him after seeing this thread. Firstly, I should thank him for that.

Now I am no athlete, in fact I could hardly be further from it! My initial observations of Elete were that I didn't like it in plain water. The slightly different texture combined with a sort of brackish taste were most unpleasant. Adding it to squash, however, works an absolute treat. The texture is not unpleasant at all, and the taste becomes all but invisible. If anything, the slightly salty edge is nice in fact.

Performance wise, as I say, I'm no athlete. I did notice a definite difference though. I also found that I was using way less water, which in turn improves my range.
I was concerned that there might be a bit of a placebo effect, so I have continued to test this - it was probably two months ago that Adrian sent the sample. With this much use I can honestly say that Elete does work for me. I usually use it in squash, but on longer rides I add it to a sports drink, which is usually about half as strong as suggested on the packaging. I have found that this combination allows me to perform at my best consistently, and the sickly feeling that pure sports drinks gave me is banished.
I also regularly use it as an everday hydration aid, since it saves having to remember to drink quite so much water all the time!

I totally recommend it then. I recently attended a motorcycle race event where a friend was competing. She was struggling with concentration and tiring during the race as it was a hot day. I just happened to have my Elete with me and made her drink some. She immediately noticed the difference and actually performed better in the second race. She has now bought her own, and I bought a large refill myself. I can think of no better recommendation than that!

Jen.

hennez

dont really think this has a whole lot to do with anything but does anyone put these sort of drinks in a camelbak bladder???

dubcat

Hennez people do but then you have to be really careful about cleaning the bladder as it is a great environment for bacteria to breed in. Once you have cleaned it people recommend you store the bladder in a freezer as bacteria won't grow in there.

hennez

dubcat
thanks for that, I usually do store it in the freezer anyway but will it leave any flavours in the bladder, would you still be able to use it with water later or would it taste like c*** ???

dubcat

I have returned to exercise after a long time and am overweight. While i don't see riding as exercise, I enjoy it so how could it be (yes my tongue is in my cheek), i am obviously hoping to lose weight as a result of cycling. However, i am unsure as to whether i should be using a sports drink instead of plain water. Won't the sports drink undo some of the work i am doing towards losing weight via cycling?

Can someone advise me as to whether i should be eating and drinking during my ride? FYI after my 16 mile loop (700ft up and 700ft down) which takes me about 1hr45m i do feel quite hungry and I am guessing this is a carb deficit? I assumed this is a good thing but now I am concerned that it is not good.

pshore

PamPen25 wrote:

adrian4224 wrote:

Re: elete electrolyte drink for hydration and relieving cramping

Please note that if you are wishing to try a free sample of elete please contact me at the following e-mail address: adrian@ikonassociates.com.

This e-mail address replaces the one from earlier posts as it is more reliable.

All the best

Adrian

Your in PR! What's the catch? :roll:

I read the email address as "I con associates" :-)

njee20

does anyone put these sort of drinks in a camelbak bladder???

Rather old post now but I use High 5 in my Camelbak on the rare occasions I use it, tend to leave it half full for 6 months. I find a flush with boiling water clears out the crap, even better if stored in the freezer overnight beforehand.

Elete is very very unlikely to do anything unpleasant to your bladder. Camelbak or otherwise...

joecasey

I started using these a couple of weeks ago. Great taste and they work. And you can download a cool tune for your workout mix - My girlfriend found this video while searching for workout music. It's pretty funny and the song gets me moving. Wait until the end for a url to get the song for free:http://www.youtube.com/user/endthebonk?feature=mhum#p/a/u/1/cW8rnMmYID8

The Northern Monkey

Just did my local 15-16km loop with only water.

Had a bit of a dry mouth, but didn't have an achey stomach and actually felt a bit more energetic.

Think i'm gonna have to switch to something different.

ddraver

So then experts

What is the difference between Rego Rapid - http://www.scienceinsport.com/public/sh ... selprod=19

And Normal Rego - http://www.scienceinsport.com/public/sh ... selprod=11

Which should i use between laps of a 24hr race and is that the same for after a marthon for example..?

felix.london

I do my local trail most days at full pelt and make up an isotonic drink (about 70ml organic squash, 450ml water and half a pinch of sea salt) which a sip before during and after the ride and have never had any cramps or thirstiness when I get back (even today and it is over 30°C!)

Will experiment by having only water for a week and see if there's any noticeable differences

nozzac

I have to say that I find water to be perfectly acceptable for hydration, just as most other mammals have done for millions of years. I dare say if you're really pushing it and sweating a lot then some salts come in handy but I'm not gonna worry about the speed of hydration since I drink before I leave and whilst I'm out so I can't see that mattering at all.

What I do worry about are my teeth. Washing them with sugar water every few minutes will definitely lead to tooth decay. I'd rather take something to eat, which can contain salts if necessary so that my teeth are exposed just the once rather than for a few hours without respite.

LightningTony

For years I didn't bother too much about hydration, now I realise how important it is because I have experienced its neglect. The symptom that I have suffered most when dehydrated is numbness in my arms and hands. I always assumed it was just due to position. Recently I saw it listed as an indicator of dehydration (I also am doing a uni course in sport science).
Regarding drinking too much water, it is very rare that this causes a problem because we tend to urinate more and thus maintain just about the right amount of fluid in our bodies. The condition of hyponatraemia can occur when too much water is consumed over an extended period, without replacing salts. It is effectively too much water entering the brain by osmosis and can result in death. Whilst still very rare the incidence is on the increase, usually first timer marathon runners that overhydrate, causes a few deaths per year, so worth mentioning.
Renal medullary washout? What’s that? I’ve googled it and can’t find anything other than vets talking about it, would love to know more please?
Regarding making your own sports drinks, yup, go for it, just as good and much cheaper.
Regarding caffeine, I would be less confident about rejecting it outright; research has shown that if you get the dose right it can boost performance, aiding fatty acid mobilisation and Calcium release in the working muscles.
Also worth thinking about is the effect these have on your teeth. Best advice is always carry two bottles, one sport drink and one plain water. After each swig of sport drink take a swig of water and slosh it around to rinse the sugar off otherwise your dentist will get fed up seeing you!!!!
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LightningTony

joecasey wrote:

I started using these a couple of weeks ago. Great taste and they work. And you can download a cool tune for your workout mix - My girlfriend found this video while searching for workout music. It's pretty funny and the song gets me moving. Wait until the end for a url to get the song for free:http://www.youtube.com/user/endthebonk?feature=mhum#p/a/u/1/cW8rnMmYID8

Guys, if you haven't checked this out yet you are missing a good laugh, thanks Joe

cube101

Good bbc tv prog in this very subject:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01l1yxk

The idea that water is not a good for hydration always makes me laugh.

t.m.h.n.e.t

cube101 wrote:

Good bbc tv prog in this very subject:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01l1yxk

The idea that water is not a good for hydration always makes me laugh.

Try watching the documentary again,and engaging your brain.

YeehaaMcgee

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:

I'm not actually sufficiently articulate or intelligent to offer a response, so I shall just make a snide remark without actually expressing any direct opinion.

t.m.h.n.e.t

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

I'm not actually sufficiently articulate or intelligent to offer a response, so I shall just make a snide remark without actually expressing any direct opinion.

cube101

ohh T.M.H.N.E.T do elaborate please, always keen to learn!

t.m.h.n.e.t

cube101 wrote:

ohh T.M.H.N.E.T do elaborate please, always keen to learn!

You first

cube101 wrote:

The idea that water is not a good for hydration always makes me laugh.

Where did you get this idea from?

cube101

okay I see where you coming from.... a glib statment maybe,
but still, the BBC link is worth a watch, and ill keep enjoying my plain water bottle whilst out riding safe in knowledge that the BBC say it's as good as a branded sport drink ;-) at least for the level i'm at.

t.m.h.n.e.t

cube101 wrote:

okay I see where you coming from.... a glib statment maybe,
but still, the BBC link is worth a watch, and ill keep enjoying my plain water bottle whilst out riding safe in knowledge that the BBC say it's as good as a branded sport drink ;-) at least for the level i'm at.

As it happens I've watched it many times, and disected the poor information to help some braindead forumites get a grasp of it many times also

You are aware though that the entire documentary was directed at 2x a week halfassed joggers rather than anyone who actually exercises for a purpose?

cube101

Yes.. i was being ironic and hence the reason I qualified my latest half arsed comment with 'for the level I’m at'
I guess we need to define parameters more clearly, as Panarama is not exactly highbrow, I kind of guessed that those involved in 'exercises for a purpose' would not be taking it with too much seriousness, or at least read around any research they use (or mis-use) but for us twice a week halfassed whatever’s the general premise of the program, or the bit I referenced could well hold true? a 500ml bottle of water will be just as effective at keeping you hydrated as a 500ml bottle of <insert brand> sport?
Anyway as I say applogies for my original glib statment, I should be more thoughtful when posting.

YeehaaMcgee

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:

cube101 wrote:

okay I see where you coming from.... a glib statment maybe,
but still, the BBC link is worth a watch, and ill keep enjoying my plain water bottle whilst out riding safe in knowledge that the BBC say it's as good as a branded sport drink ;-) at least for the level i'm at.

As it happens I've watched it many times, and disected the poor information to help some braindead forumites get a grasp of it many times also

You are aware though that the entire documentary was directed at 2x a week halfassed joggers rather than anyone who actually exercises for a purpose?

Not really true though, is it? Since they actually had a section on marathon runners.

t.m.h.n.e.t

YeehaaMcgee wrote:

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:

cube101 wrote:

okay I see where you coming from.... a glib statment maybe,
but still, the BBC link is worth a watch, and ill keep enjoying my plain water bottle whilst out riding safe in knowledge that the BBC say it's as good as a branded sport drink ;-) at least for the level i'm at.

As it happens I've watched it many times, and disected the poor information to help some braindead forumites get a grasp of it many times also

You are aware though that the entire documentary was directed at 2x a week halfassed joggers rather than anyone who actually exercises for a purpose?

Not really true though, is it? Since they actually had a section on marathon runners.

Ok,since pedantry is all you have left to offer. "Almost all of the documentary was directed at 2x a week halfassed joggers"


ps: you reported my other posts didn't you?

springtide9

T.M.H.N.E.T wrote:

Ok,since pedantry is all you have left to offer. "Almost all of the documentary was directed at 2x a week halfassed joggers"
ps: you reported my other posts didn't you?

^^ this ^^

It's amazing how many people you see down the gym, obviously there to loose some weight, but drinking sports drinks for a 30 min spin class. They probably consume more calories in the drink than they burn during the session. Good for them for getting down the gym, but I will agree that some sports drinks/products are directed at people who don't need then in order to increase sales.

This is slightly different to someone that does 4+ hr rides of a reasonable intensity.

parf

i make my own energy drinks with glucose powder and green tea but lately i have been adding baobab powder and i am now riding further and quicker than ever. i dont think its a case of me getting fitter or stronger i am 45 and have been riding for 20 years. has anyone else heard of or use this stuff?