Does anyone have any shimano cartoons?

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  • Steve2020
    Steve2020 Posts: 133
    I dont really have strong opinions either way but Record is a lot more expensive than D/A and IMHO Record stuff looks a bit tacky with all the carbon.
  • whyamihere
    whyamihere Posts: 7,717
    Campag hoods are more comfortable, according to most people who've used both. Personally, I also found Shimano's floppy levers quite disconcerting when trying to brake.
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,719
    whyamihere wrote:
    Campag hoods are more comfortable, according to most people who've used both. Personally, I also found Shimano's floppy levers quite disconcerting when trying to brake.

    i would agree with you there to be fair......but its rare that i break from the drops and i find it matters much less on the hoods
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  • McBain_v1
    McBain_v1 Posts: 5,237
    I agree that sometimes there is too much carbon on display, some bikes look as though they've been pimped by Xhibit and his crew :?
    What do I ride? Now that's an Enigma!
  • CHRISNOIR
    CHRISNOIR Posts: 1,400
    McBain_v1 wrote:
    I agree that sometimes there is too much carbon on display, some bikes look as though they've been pimped by Xhibit and his crew :?

    'Pimp My Bike'. Now there's an idea for a show...
  • McBain_v1
    McBain_v1 Posts: 5,237
    ...Lots of laser-etching of frames and brake caliper surfaces, custom rim decals, *bling* saddle rails incorporating tiny flashing lights, cranks with LED readout displaying cadence, super-chromed spoke nipples, customised stem with integral recessed bike computer and GPS unit combined...

    Who'd front it though :?: I don't think that Liggett has sufficient "gangsta" cred... maybe Cippolini 8) :lol:
    What do I ride? Now that's an Enigma!
  • CHRISNOIR
    CHRISNOIR Posts: 1,400
    Stick with Liggett - the look on his face as some tatooed rock-type type welds a bass tube to the ar*e-end of a Bianchi would be priceless.
  • caretaker42
    caretaker42 Posts: 13
    redddraggon wrote:
    yogi wrote:
    Just as a counter-point and in the interest of balance here's some Campag MTB technology, I think it stopped around 1989.
    DentiBar.JPG


    For silky smooth shifting try Shimano.

    Campag realised that MTBing wasn't proper cycling and decided to keep themselves pure.

    nice one red too true purity is paramount lol :lol::wink: :
  • Pirahna
    Pirahna Posts: 1,315
    redddraggon wrote:
    Nah, the Fulcrum ones look the best.

    Just a re-badged Campag with a big price markup, and the chainrings look they cost 5p a pair. Fine in the pictures, not so nice in the flesh. I'll stick with my Chorus.

    jpembroke wrote:
    I heard that the Tune Sixpack is the stiffest BB/Chainset on the market. Unfortunately no one can afford it.

    From the reading I've done it's nowhere near being the stiffest.
  • Monty Dog
    Monty Dog Posts: 20,614
    Seems to be a lot of 'reading' going on here....funnily enough, check out the cable routing on the new DuraAce stuff
    Make mine an Italian, with Campagnolo on the side..
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    Pirahna wrote:
    redddraggon wrote:
    Nah, the Fulcrum ones look the best.

    Just a re-badged Campag

    I know, they look far better than the DA flying Saucers though.
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  • McBain_v1
    McBain_v1 Posts: 5,237
    I thought that the review in the C+ mag said that the Dura Ace wheels were the best :?: Or are we on about aesthetics here :?:
    What do I ride? Now that's an Enigma!
  • Pirahna
    Pirahna Posts: 1,315
    Monty Dog wrote:
    Seems to be a lot of 'reading' going on here....funnily enough, check out the cable routing on the new DuraAce stuff

    Unfortunately it's not possible to test ride Tune cranks so you have to rely on other peoples musings. Apparently they are nowhere near being the stiffest thing on the market. If they'd have got better reviews I'd have bought some.

    If you'd read a few posts earlier you'll see the bit where I commented on the new Dura Ace cable routing.
  • synchronicity
    synchronicity Posts: 1,415
    All this discussion, and still no cartoons- :x


    ( :lol: )
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  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    Yeh i have some empty boxes how many do you want :?:
    bagpuss
  • fossyant
    fossyant Posts: 2,549
    Oi... Shimano 7400 user here - has outlasted record of the same era....

    I like current Campag as it has caught up, and in some placed excelled, but watch out for DA 7900..

    You need a chainset like this....



    DSCF0913.jpg

    I know Campag Looks, but they are Record Carbon and I got them at a discount, and being white they matched the fade effect on my frame, and at the time DA wasn't ARC....
  • djkmtb
    djkmtb Posts: 53
    How my bike looks ranks around 90 on the list. Getting me where I want to go and back, in comfort and dependability, is around 2 on the list. Not needing to bring tools I shouldn't need is on the top.

    I've been using Shimano since day one, and have never had a problem, and I don't ride any Walmart special. Actually, I'd never even think of buying a bike that was in a box or assembled to take home. If i can't pick it out to build, not gonna happen.

    I've owned Suntour many, many years ago on a TREK 760 roadie and didn't find them impressive, but then maybe no one else has, either.

    Never have had a complaint about Shimano. Probably never will.
    I had to do it.
  • synchronicity
    synchronicity Posts: 1,415
    djkmtb wrote:
    Never have had a complaint about Shimano. Probably never will.

    I do. Here's what I wanted the cartoon for... :P
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    One of your points is that you cant shift up and brake at the same time.
    Now, I've got dual-release on my MTB shifters, and I asked my LBS when i bought them "why?"
    He said it's so you can shift up whilst braking.

    Now forgive my ignorance, having only ridden for about 20-odd years, but why would you want to change up, when decelerating? surely you need to shift down?
    Can you please explain this as I must admit I have no understanding of the concept of upshifting whilst braking. :?:
  • synchronicity
    synchronicity Posts: 1,415
    You really need to shift to an easier gear. Whether you call that up-shifting or down-shifting, you really can't do either with shimano.
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  • djkmtb
    djkmtb Posts: 53
    synchronicity wrote:
    You really need to shift to an easier gear. Whether you call that up-shifting or down-shifting, you really can't do either with shimano.

    My XT stuff does. When I bought my rig, I got the Shimano drive train that shifts backwards to what I was used to. Blew me off the trail for the first month, but got over it easy enough. Braking and pulling to go to a lower gear are really easy. Push to go higher.

    Actually, I can cover all 9 cogs in two pushes or pulls, whichever is needed at the time, and brake either way.
    I had to do it.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    synchronicity wrote:
    You really need to shift to an easier gear. Whether you call that up-shifting or down-shifting, you really can't do either with shimano.
    Shifting UP, is shifting to a gear which spins the rear wheel faster in relation to your pedaling rpm than your current gear. ie "harder" gear. :roll:

    Anyway, I don;t know about the road shifters, but using the mtb trigger shifters, I've been able to shift down whilst braking ever since their conception, using my thumb, and I don't understand why my new shifters have the ability to let me change UP whilst braking, using my thumb - the finger(up)-shifter can be clicked both ways, using your index finger or thumb.

    I've yet to find an use for it.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    djkmtb wrote:
    synchronicity wrote:
    You really need to shift to an easier gear. Whether you call that up-shifting or down-shifting, you really can't do either with shimano.

    My XT stuff does.

    That doesn't appear on many decent bikes though. Proper bikes with Shimano tend to have Sora/Tiagra/105/Ultegra/DA.

    Campag avoids the problem anyway.
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    XT doesn't appear on many decent bikes?
    Holy crap, do you actually live in a parallell universe or something?
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    XT doesn't appear on many decent bikes?
    Holy crap, do you actually live in a parallell universe or something?

    You're on the Road bit of the Forum. Point me to a road bike with XT shifters.......
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  • Nuggs
    Nuggs Posts: 1,804
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    Now forgive my ignorance, having only ridden for about 20-odd years, but why would you want to change up, when decelerating? surely you need to shift down?
    Can you please explain this as I must admit I have no understanding of the concept of upshifting whilst braking. :?:
    I guess if you're shifting down on the chainring, you may need to shift up on the rear? To stop your legs spinning like a mad thing.
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Posts: 79,666
    dragon, I'm on a cycling forum, discussing Shimano gear. Unlike yourself, I don't confine myself to being a narrow minded single-discipline campag obsessive. I'm actually reading the road forum 'cause I'm curious about some things.
    I find your comment about "proper" bikes abusive and ignorant.

    Nuggs, that does make sense I suppose, and I hadn't thought of that.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    I find your comment about "proper" bikes abusive and ignorant.

    It seems you have no sense of humour.

    I've got both Shimano and Campag, and I won't lie about which is best.
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  • heavymental
    heavymental Posts: 2,094
    redddraggon wrote:
    yeehaamcgee wrote:
    I find your comment about "proper" bikes abusive and ignorant.

    It seems you have no sense of humour.

    I've got both Shimano and Campag, and I won't lie about which is best.

    I think its your lack of smilies or anything to indicate you're joking, Redd. Pretty much any thread that comes up that concerns kit is guaranteed to have a comment from you on it saying how Campag is the only definitive choice and the rest is sht. Usually just in a few words which makes it hard to see any intended humour. The fact is Shimano is absolutely fine, and better for some people. I specced Campag on my new bike but I can't say its a different world to my old 105. I actually find my old alu 105 shifters to be more comfortable than my carbon Centaur shifters that feel plasticy and bulky in comparison. I'm hoping i'll get used to them but at the moment I'm certainly not shaking my head wondering how I'd not seen the light before. Fact is that sometimes, the snobbery of Campag users makes me want to go Shimano just to distance myself from the attitude.
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    It's all to do with what's best. Shimano pedals are the best - I use Shimano pedals, Campag currently make the make groupsets - I use Campag. Shimano are making largish changes to their DuraAce kit for 2009(?) - they might therefore catch up. Campag stuff does look better, they make the best wheels (but the tyres are a bugger to get on). It might be subjective - but I don't think so.

    I never (well rarely) use smilies or childish internet acronyms (like lol, lmao etc) - I just don't see the need.

    housing.jpg

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