Does anyone have any shimano cartoons?

synchronicity

Can anyone post up a comical image of something shimano, or point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

Rob Sallnow

synchronicity wrote:

Can anyone post up a comical image of something shimano, or point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

yogi

Just as a counter-point and in the interest of balance here's some Campag MTB technology, I think it stopped around 1989.



For silky smooth shifting try Shimano.

redddraggon

yogi wrote:

Just as a counter-point and in the interest of balance here's some Campag MTB technology, I think it stopped around 1989.



For silky smooth shifting try Shimano.

Campag realised that MTBing wasn't proper cycling and decided to keep themselves pure.

Rob Sallnow

I always found the idea of a Shimano anniversary groupset quite amusing....especially as Shimano users don't tend to have mucch sentimentality towards their equipment.

Needless to say it didn't sell very well and the one I saw in the flesh was heavily discounted in the LBS

Rob Sallnow

yogi wrote:

Just as a counter-point and in the interest of balance here's some Campag MTB technology, I think it stopped around 1989.

So Campag's MTB levers were completely adjustable for pretty much everything possible....Shimano 1989 MTB stuff was knackered by 1990!!

yogi

Still running a bike with original Shimano XT equipment from circa 1989, no problem.

I'd rather cycle than walk!

McBain_v1

My 1983 Shimano 600 groupset is still working just fine on my 531c Raleigh Competition. I've never tried a Campag groupset, but would be more interested in trying the SRAM Red stuff, just because it looks and sounds as though it works in a different way altogether.

fto-si

Rob Sallnow wrote:

synchronicity wrote:

Can anyone post up a comical image of something shimano, or point me in the right direction?

Thanks.

Where's the comical value in a picture of a Shimano fishing reel? An area which they truly excel in.

Anonymous

What's your problem with shimano? Does their road stuff suck? or are you just "ooh, look at me with my fancy campag stuff - I'm sooooo much better than you" kinda folk?

They seem to fall in and out of fashion continuously with regards to mountain bike stuff (with the possible exception of the XTR range) but I can't say they've ever really made anything dodgy.
i don't understand this hatred :?:

redddraggon

yeehaamcgee wrote:

What's your problem with shimano? Does their road stuff suck? or are you just "ooh, look at me with my fancy campag stuff - I'm sooooo much better than you" kinda folk?

They seem to fall in and out of fashion continuously with regards to mountain bike stuff (with the possible exception of the XTR range) but I can't say they've ever really made anything dodgy.
i don't understand this hatred :?:

A road bike should be a work of art - Shimano currently have exposed gear cables and look rubbish. Campagnolo gearing looks better - there probably isn't much difference performance wise though. Campag hoods are more comfortable aswell.

Anonymous

redddraggon wrote:

A road bike should be a work of art - Shimano currently have exposed gear cables and look rubbish. Campagnolo gearing looks better - there probably isn't much difference performance wise though. Campag hoods are more comfortable aswell.

Seriously, that's it? Campag gear looks better? Road bike should be a piece of art?
To who exactly? Don't see many bikes in art galleries.
That's quite possibbly the wankiest reason I've ever heard.

redddraggon

yeehaamcgee wrote:

redddraggon wrote:

A road bike should be a work of art - Shimano currently have exposed gear cables and look rubbish. Campagnolo gearing looks better - there probably isn't much difference performance wise though. Campag hoods are more comfortable aswell.

Seriously, that's it? Campag gear looks better? Road bike should be a piece of art?
To who exactly? Don't see many bikes in art galleries.
That's quite possibbly the wankiest reason I've ever heard.

You're an MTBer, you wouldn't understand, MTBs are ugly looking things....

Rob Sallnow

yeehaamcgee wrote:

What's your problem with shimano? Does their road stuff suck? or are you just "ooh, look at me with my fancy campag stuff - I'm sooooo much better than you" kinda folk?:

Shimano stuff doesn't suck (generally) and nor am I 'look at my fancy Campag stuff etc' I just love cycling components and Campag stuff is far more than just function...it's form too. Shimano isn't.

ddraver

redddraggon wrote:

A road bike should be a work of art - Shimano currently have exposed gear cables and look rubbish. Campagnolo gearing looks better - there probably isn't much difference performance wise though. Campag hoods are more comfortable aswell.

disagree - shimano stuff looks better (especially the new 105 stuff) - sealed cables are something you buy afterwards either way!

and i ve never seen a bike - road or otherwise - that looks like a work of art...(with the possible exception of the ibis mojo...)

Anonymous

Sorry to everyone, my earlier reply was a bit harsh, I was in a bad mood after not having slept very well last night :oops: . Just had a quick nap, so I feel much better now!

I can understand wanting your bike to look good, but Shimano seem to get so much hate from roadies.
See, as an engineer, I appreciate the beauty of a well-engineered thing, above the purely cosmetic.
although, I do also like the strange design of the new Shadow mechs by shimano, getting the whole XT logo as a functional part of the design, whilst simultaneously being the perfect shape for the job - very clever!

redddraggon

ddraver wrote:

disagree - shimano stuff looks better (especially the new 105 stuff) - sealed cables are something you buy afterwards either way!

Sealed cables? We are talking about concealed cables - and you can't get them afterwards for Shimano because they don't do it.

Anonymous

Concealed cables? bet they make you go faster!

yogi

Whats wrong with mountain biking anyway, I do both, if anything I think the cross-over of mountain bikers to the road breathed much needed life into the road scene.

Surely we should rejoice in the fact that somebody chooses to ride a bike - doesn't matter what it is or what frigging groupset it has. That said Shimano does give a smoother shift!

Just making a point. Loosen up.

jpembroke

My MTB - Shimano

My Cross bike - shimano

My Road bike - it has to be Campag; don't know why

celbianchi

I reckon in the amateur UK racing ranks the vast majority lean towards Shimano. All of us who race in our club use Shimano.
I have used both, nowadays all my bikes have Shimano.
D/A is a perfectly functioning well designed groupset. The D/A chainset is reputed to be the stiffest on the market.

I think anyone who chooses something purely on 'perceived' looks and image rather than function is a clown.

Anonymous

doesn't the Campag standard still have right-hand threads on both sides of the BB shell?

redddraggon

yeehaamcgee wrote:

doesn't the Campag standard still have right-hand threads on both sides of the BB shell?

That's Italian thread, Campag do both types (as do most people who make BBs)

Anonymous

I knew there was some kind of odd standard.
I'm not aware of any MTB frame with two right-hand threads on the BB, and I've never heard of an MTB BB available in both types.

Pirahna

As for concealed cables; I think you'll find the new Dura Ace stuff, out later this year, has concealed cables and a new lever shape similar to SRAM.

iainment

What's a concealed cable.

I have no idea what stuff is on my bike - it has wheels and goes, all I need to know.

redddraggon

Pirahna wrote:

As for concealed cables; I think you'll find the new Dura Ace stuff, out later this year, has concealed cables and a new lever shape similar to SRAM.

Yeh, but it's not out yet - so it's not currently an option. Not everyone one can afford Dura Ace anyway - both Xenon and Record have concealed cables so why won't Sora if Dura Ace does?

redddraggon

iainment wrote:

What's a concealed cable.

The cables go under the handlebar tape. Shimano only have brake cables under the tape, SRAM and Campag put both gear and brake cables under the tape.

C-S-B

a concealed cable is just what it says on the tin; it doesnt come out the side of the lever like on the shimano ones

Oh and the Dura ace chainset has to be the best looking ive seen - all the campag ones seem to look the same

redddraggon

C-S-B wrote:

Oh and the Dura ace chainset has to be the best looking ive seen - all the campag ones seem to look the same

Nah, the Fulcrum ones look the best.



It'd look good if the chainrings weren't so damn ugly.

jpembroke

celbianchi wrote:

I reckon in the amateur UK racing ranks the vast majority lean towards Shimano. All of us who race in our club use Shimano.
I have used both, nowadays all my bikes have Shimano.
D/A is a perfectly functioning well designed groupset. The D/A chainset is reputed to be the stiffest on the market.

I think anyone who chooses something purely on 'perceived' looks and image rather than function is a clown.

I heard that the Tune Sixpack is the stiffest BB/Chainset on the market. Unfortunately no one can afford it.