My Bike build (Pictures)
redddraggon
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Wow. I think that might look at bit stunning when you put put it all together. 8)
What happened to the F3:13?0 -
Lagavulin wrote:What happened to the F3:13?
It was far too small, and the finishing kit wasn't upto what I'd expect for £1600. Got my deposit back and decided to build my own bike.
This build will probably cost me less than the £1600 of the pinarello (and It'll have good wheels and tyres, and bars, stem, and saddle that I won't need to change).0 -
Looking good, look forward to seeing the finished build...
Do the 'Incredibles' rubbers come with the groupset
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Ahh, maybe for the best then. That looks a really nice set of bits you've got there and you'll have quality wheels from the off.It was far too small
I'm looking at some Wilier Izoards but with the Centaur Carbon cranks it's £2,100-£2,300 (and they're with either Racing 3 or Reynolds Solitude wheels).
Plus, having spent nearly £400 on my DT Swiss wheels I'll want to convert them to Campag to run on my best bike so there's more expense.
Sometimes I really miss that student loan. 0 -
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While the frame is with the LBS, get them to check that the bottom bracket is properly faced - critical for external bearings - and chase out all the threads.
Then you just need to nail the build! There are a few pitfalls to avoid to get a really professional looking machine - little things like getting the cable outer lengths right (for example, the rear derailleur cable should enter the mech more or less horizontaly - a lot of people cut the outer too short) and getting the chain length right make all the difference.0 -
robbarker wrote:While the frame is with the LBS, get them to check that the bottom bracket is properly faced - critical for external bearings - and chase out all the threads.
Aye that is one of the jobs I've got them to do.
Hopefully the build will go well. I'm not going to rush it, I've got another bike to play with on the roads while the weather is less than perfect, so I've got plenty of time to finish it.0 -
nice looking stuff - will look awesome when together!
Can you post a couple more pics of those wheels? - they look pretty smart!
Damn you - thought I had decided once and for all on the eurus and now you go showing these things!!!
centaur looks nice - I know what you mean about the quality look to it - it does that!
RobBarker - any other tips for the build? - the cable length thing is interesting. I have done a lot of work on my bikes but never actually build a fresh one from scratch (so to speak) so this interests me.0 -
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yes - they are nice!
Think I am still sorted on the Eurus though - i was so impressed with the set I held in Ribble on saturday...
So when you starting puttint it all together? this week or waiting? how long until the frame and forks get back from your LBS?
Are you going to get some custom graphics made up for the frame? Your first name perhaps to put on the downtube? or just leaving it blank?0 -
gkerr4 wrote:Are you going to get some custom graphics made up for the frame? Your first name perhaps to put on the downtube? or just leaving it blank?
It's a hard one, most manufacturers stick their decals under a coat of lacquer, so I don't know whether I fancy sticking decals on the frame and it looking a dodgy.
Perhaps a little Wales flag and my name on the top tube?0 -
I dunno - there are some graphics places - even on ebay - that will make them up out of vinyl that should be cheap to get hold of, easy and thin to apply, will last ok - but come off if you want them too - big letters in a cannondale-ish font would look quite smart and make it a very unique bike!
the vinyl graphics would be thin enough to not look out of place I think.0 -
Gkerr. make sure you take some pics of those silver Eurus when you get them. I'm thinking of getting the same. Somebody told me that the black finish is the better on the eurus but he didn't give me a reason why. I think the silver looks better but only seen pics. Not seen them in the flesh so interested in some detailed pics.0
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i'll make sure I do - they are well sweet!!!0
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redddraggon wrote:
Perhaps a little Wales flag
Bendegedig!0 -
redddraggon wrote:gkerr4 wrote:Are you going to get some custom graphics made up for the frame? Your first name perhaps to put on the downtube? or just leaving it blank?
Perhaps a little Wales flag and my name on the top tube?
Something small and subtle like these:
http://www.vcgraphix.com/us/store/default.asp?subCatID=00 -
That looks gorgeous - any idea what the final weight is going to be?
What size frame did you go for?
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Mog Uk wrote:
That just looks the ticket.Daniel B wrote:That looks gorgeous - any idea what the final weight is going to be?
What size frame did you go for?
Dan
I went for the 54cm frame, I think it's going to weigh just under 8kg with pedals, not superlight.
I've only worked it out roughly (being generous with the weights)0 -
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Surely it's an integrated headset, in which case it's not normal to do any machining before fitting the headset (and likely to do more harm than good).
In a similar way, I'm not that convinced of the necessity of getting the BB faced on a carbon bike - surely the BB tube is simply bonded into place, in which case it should be perfectly aligned, given you'd expect it to be manufactured accurately by machine, and there's no distortion mechanism during the bike build. I certainly didn't bother with mine (though did contact Pedalforce who I got it from to confirm that it came correctly faced).0 -
Well I've rung the shop up.
They had contacted the manufacturer, which had told them that the aluminium bits were machined correctly like you said. But the LBS reckon that it's worth machining them to make sure the faces are perfect.
I too am unconvinced by the need to do any machining.
They have checked the BB threads and they are fine. Screwed a BB in and it looks good.0 -
Well they would say that, wouldn't they. In fact the machining of the original shell should be more accurate than anything a LBS could manage.redddraggon wrote:But the LBS reckon that it's worth machining them to make sure the faces are perfect.0 -
If my LBS didn't have one of these:
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail ... em=BTS%2D1
I'd find a different LBS.
It's a £600 tool, although a mint one wenton ebay for £175 recenty. I kicked myself for not getting it, even though I can't really justify it!
The BB shell is likely to be fine, but it needs to be perfect and you won't know unless it's done with the proper bit of kit.0 -
Still not the same degree of precision in that, which is after all still a hand tool, as there is in the CNC lathe the bottom bracket tube was made on. It really comes down to whether you trust the manufacturers to do the job properly.0
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robbarker wrote:If my LBS didn't have one of these:
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail ... em=BTS%2D1
I'd find a different LBS.
It's a £600 tool, although a mint one wenton ebay for £175 recenty. I kicked myself for not getting it, even though I can't really justify it!
The BB shell is likely to be fine, but it needs to be perfect and you won't know unless it's done with the proper bit of kit.
They've got the BB tool, but not the 45 degree headset bit (they've got the normal bit for the tool though.)0 -
The headtube should be fine - you're using an integrated headset I think?
To answer aracer's point - you're absolutely right that the BB shell is likely to have been machined very accurately - the issue is more ensuring the faces are clean and parallel to each other and the threads. There may be an uneven coating of laquer, for example.0 -
My roubaix frame came with a sheet that stated quite specifically NOT to face the BB shell - as said - it is a machined component embedded in the carbon frame and should be perfect.
Red draggon - if that frame is an integrated headset - then the headtube on the fram definalty doesn't need machining - you just need the crownrace presed evenly onto the steerer / fork crown0 -
robbarker wrote:If my LBS didn't have one of these:
http://www.parktool.com/products/detail ... em=BTS%2D1
I'd find a different LBS.
It's a £600 tool, although a mint one wenton ebay for £175 recenty. I kicked myself for not getting it, even though I can't really justify it!
The BB shell is likely to be fine, but it needs to be perfect and you won't know unless it's done with the proper bit of kit.
'kin ell!!
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