Campag or campy

suze
suze Posts: 302
edited December 2007 in The bottom bracket
Was doing ok with cycling Plus this month, till I got to the Paul Smith article testing the camagnolo centaur Ct 2008.....Then the alarm bells rang at the second part of the title,,..

"Campy's groupset updated"

Is this magazine aimed at the US market. As we know they use the term Campy when refering to campagnolo.....In the UK campag is the only term i've ever heard in over 30 years or riding. Besides campy is so naff sounding, almost as bad as shimano.


It's Campag, always has been and always will be.....

I'd rather walk than ride shimano.
�3 grand bike...30 Bob legs....Slowing with style
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  • tatanab
    tatanab Posts: 1,283
    Campag. It is the usual British abbreviation which I have certainly used since the 1960s.

    Campy is the American abbreviation. Unfortunately we have a whole generation who eat/drink/seem to think American. So we hear a lot of "Campy" in this country.

    If, and only if, C+ regards itself as an international magazine then the term "Campy" may be used if, and only if, that term is internationally more recognised than Campag.
  • campag. but usually campagnolo. campy sounds camp
  • tardington
    tardington Posts: 1,379
    We don't like Shimano?

    The long form is cam-pag-nyolo to pronounce, isn't it?

    So campag is the proper abreviation, surely?
  • suze
    suze Posts: 302
    It's got to be campag...

    We have too much C*** from the US as it is without adopting the shortcomings of their language.
    �3 grand bike...30 Bob legs....Slowing with style
  • ivancarlos
    ivancarlos Posts: 1,034
    'Campy' is Campylobacter
    I have pain!
  • ddraver
    ddraver Posts: 26,717
    sorry guys but who really cares.......as americanisation goes i think thats a pretty minor one
    We're in danger of confusing passion with incompetence
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  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    suze wrote:
    I'd rather walk than ride shimano.

    BREACH OF COPYRIGHT!!!!!

    That'll be £5.00 please 8)
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    Talking of copyright....I think the Americans have a little help from Campagnolo in making them think it's Campy rather than Campag because they have copyrighted this logo...

    09_Campy.gif

    :(
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • PhilofCas
    PhilofCas Posts: 1,153
    another vote for Campag here
  • vermooten
    vermooten Posts: 2,697
    Another one. My winter bike has Veloce components on it, which I pronounce

    vel-och-ay

    as does the guy in the bike shop I bought it from. It's probably how it's pronounced in Italian. But people in other bike shops pronounce it

    vel-oss

    By using the Italian version, am I just being a middle class twat?
    You just have to ride like you never have to breathe again.

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  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    vermooten wrote:
    By using the Italian version, am I just being a middle class twat?

    No.
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • ivancarlos
    ivancarlos Posts: 1,034
    Vel-oss is for thickos. Vel-och-ay is proper. I would still rather have Shimano than Campylobacter though :P
    I have pain!
  • vermooten
    vermooten Posts: 2,697
    Indeed I've converted to Shimano, despite Ken Night arching his eyebrow at this policy decision. I prefer the click-click of the 21st century to the jammed clutch of a 1930s tractor.
    You just have to ride like you never have to breathe again.

    Manchester Wheelers
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    tardie wrote:
    The long form is cam-pag-nyolo to pronounce, isn't it?

    So campag is the proper abreviation, surely?
    On my Stars and Water Carriers video the announcer at the stage start in one Italian town calls up riders from the Bianchi-Campagnolo team. I'm sure he pronounces the name as cam-pan-yolo. I can't check at the moment because I've switched over to DVD and my VCR has been mothballed.

    Also - Bianchi is pronounced as bee-an-kee not bee-an-chee!
  • ColinJ
    ColinJ Posts: 2,218
    vermooten wrote:
    Another one. My winter bike has Veloce components on it, which I pronounce

    vel-och-ay
    If that is och as in crotch I think you are correct. If it is och as in Loch Ness I think you are wrong .
  • redddraggon
    redddraggon Posts: 10,862
    ColinJ wrote:
    I'm sure he pronounces the name as cam-pan-yolo.

    Yeh the gn letters give a sort of ny sound. Like the place name Bologna is pronounced Bolonya rather bo log na
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  • Rob Sallnow
    Rob Sallnow Posts: 6,279
    ColinJ wrote:
    I'm sure he pronounces the name as cam-pan-yolo.

    Also - Bianchi is pronounced as bee-an-kee not bee-an-chee!

    Indeed they are.

    Now....Croce d'Aune anyone!? :lol:
    I'd rather walk than use Shimano
  • oldwelshman
    oldwelshman Posts: 4,733
    What a sad post, who gives a shiit what is is called? :D
    maybe I should call my gs shimmy? :D
  • vermooten
    vermooten Posts: 2,697
    I think I feel more comfortable saying Campag than Campy. Campy is a bit too Graham Norton.
    You just have to ride like you never have to breathe again.

    Manchester Wheelers
  • Ken Night
    Ken Night Posts: 2,005
    , who gives a shiit what is is called? :D
    maybe I should call my gs shimmy? :D

    If you don't, you should, it'd be entirely appropriate
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  • Ken Night
    Ken Night Posts: 2,005
    vermooten wrote:
    Indeed I've converted to Shimano, despite Ken Night arching his eyebrow at this policy decision. I prefer the click-click of the 21st century to the jammed clutch of a 1930s tractor.

    I can't believe no-one has risen to this, and I'm not going to give you the satisfaction :D
    “It is by riding a bicycle that you learn the contours of a country best..." Ernest Hemingway
  • This is a debate we must have.

    Especially agree about the correct pronounciation of Veloce. You should correct those cretins in the bike shop, they'll thank you for it in the end. After all they wouldn't get away with calling Shimano 105: "Shy-may-noh one hundred and five" would they?
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  • Smokin Joe
    Smokin Joe Posts: 2,706
    Bloody Americans.

    Shoe plates became cleats, wired-ons became clinchers, tubs became sew ups and they even think a fanny is somebodies ar$e.
  • Of course it's Campag!, campy is a reference to Graham Norton! :wink:
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  • Smokin Joe wrote:
    Bloody Americans.

    and they even think a fanny is somebodies ar$e.

    you mean it isn't? :oops:
  • bagpusscp
    bagpusscp Posts: 2,907
    Male term = Campag.
    Female term =Campy.
    Which proves all yanks are a load of big girls .
    bagpuss
  • giant_man
    giant_man Posts: 6,878
    Definitely Campag, Campy just sounds silly
  • Ste_S
    Ste_S Posts: 1,173
    vermooten wrote:
    Indeed I've converted to Shimano, despite Ken Night arching his eyebrow at this policy decision. I prefer the click-click of the 21st century to the jammed clutch of a 1930s tractor.

    I was surprised to find that they still sold bikes with Campag stuff on the other day, I thought everyone had moved on.
  • rparkes
    rparkes Posts: 120
    ivancarlos wrote:
    I would still rather have Shimano than Campylobacter though :P
    Theres no accounting for taste! :roll:
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  • PhilofCas
    PhilofCas Posts: 1,153
    Ste_S wrote:
    vermooten wrote:
    Indeed I've converted to Shimano, despite Ken Night arching his eyebrow at this policy decision. I prefer the click-click of the 21st century to the jammed clutch of a 1930s tractor.

    I was surprised to find that they still sold bikes with Campag stuff on the other day, I thought everyone had moved on.

    o yes, why ditch a winning formula, yer can keep yer Shi*mano :lol: