Turbo Twice A Week
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Toks wrote:toks wrote:4. My heart rate would be between 83-91bpms,[/b]
Well spotted Mike that should of course read between 83-91% of my maxMike wilcox wrote:I'm an old'un but even my HR is up in the 150's at TT pace
A pity that. I was hoping your max HR was only about 100 bpm.
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Wow, and its only December. What happened to the good ol days of base training in the winter and then interval training in late spring prior to racing etc. My experience of this is that interval training in the winter only serves to make you good at internval training in the winter. You may feel fitter during the winter but it won;t necessarily help you come the summer.. Do it prior to race season in the spring and the benfits will be there as well.0
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good point.
I think it would be easy to get burned out unless you are careful.
I'm going to limit myself to 2 turbo sessions a week.....
probably
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er ... I'm sure thats still the most popular template for cycle trainingkenbaxter wrote:Wow, and its only December. What happened to the good ol days of base training in the winter and then interval training in late spring prior to racing etc. .
Cool, the emphasis is obviously on the word my. And while we're speaking anecdotally thats not mineMy experience of this is that interval training in the winter only serves to make you good at internval training in the winter.
given that there's so many variables that will determine whether winter training with some intensity will improve your fitness levels come the summer I think your statement is over egging somewhat, don't you?You may feel fitter during the winter but it won;t necessarily help you come the summer..0 -
I have been doing some turbo sessions involving intervals of 3-7 minutes each at the maximum power I can sustain at that level.
To my amateur mind, this would seem to replicate short sharp English hills and short bursts of speed in racing (bridging gaps etc).
I am looking to do some Cat 4 racing and some hilly sportives in 2008.
They feel good to do (not too lung burstingly painful like sprints and not to long and boring like 2x20s)
My theory is that long ride endurance stays with you for longer throughout the winter (I commute and do a long ride on weekends throughout the winter anyway), so I am using these 3-7 minute intervals to keep my higher end power topped up without killing myself.
Is this a valid appraoch?0 -
As usual it depends. If you're doing them at at your best effort for the duration you'll more than likely to be targetting VO2max improvement which will in turn drag up your threshold power (key to all endurance events). However there's possible a limitation as to how long you can regularly perform such efforts. Coaching othordoxy suggests you leave this type of training until at least 6-8weeks before your target event. However people have their preference when training and you can't dismiss psychology. You can recommend 2 x 20's all day long to some people but if they don't like em they won't do em - simpleterongi wrote:I have been doing some turbo sessions involving intervals of 3-7 minutes each at the maximum power I can sustain at that level.
To my amateur mind, this would seem to replicate short sharp English hills and short bursts of speed in racing (bridging gaps etc).
I am looking to do some Cat 4 racing and some hilly sportives in 2008.
They feel good to do (not too lung burstingly painful like sprints and not to long and boring like 2x20s)
My theory is that long ride endurance stays with you for longer throughout the winter (I commute and do a long ride on weekends throughout the winter anyway), so I am using these 3-7 minute intervals to keep my higher end power topped up without killing myself.
Is this a valid appraoch?
If you're really doing them at the required intensity you'll know they can be quite fatiguing. so perhaps after six weeks or so do them once a week just as maintenance. If you don't fancy 2 x 20's why not try riding in the 60-120min duration at a good pace slighlty below threshold0 -
Toks wrote:
er ... I'm sure thats still the most popular template for cycle trainingkenbaxter wrote:Wow, and its only December. What happened to the good ol days of base training in the winter and then interval training in late spring prior to racing etc. .
Cool, the emphasis is obviously on the word my. And while we're speaking anecdotally thats not mineMy experience of this is that interval training in the winter only serves to make you good at internval training in the winter.
given that there's so many variables that will determine whether winter training with some intensity will improve your fitness levels come the summer I think your statement is over egging somewhat, don't you?You may feel fitter during the winter but it won;t necessarily help you come the summer..
Blimey, thanks for putting me straight. Enjoy your intervals and I'll wave as you blast past me in the summer. 0
