Slug Quentin defects to Labour

spire · June 2007

Who has the least principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrit Brown for welcoming him to the fold?

redcogs · June 2007

Spire, there is no reason for a Tory Party any longer, the rich are adequately serviced by Labour, so i would suggest dissolving yourselves (perhaps using a sulphuric solution) and following Quentin down the drain.

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ankev1 · June 2007

Every parliament seems to generate a small crop of MPs defecting from one party to another. While it is a fact that electors vote for the individual as their MP, they are also clearly casting a vote for his party. Should MPs who choose to change sides in the house be made to stand again in a by-election in their constituency? I incline to think that this should be the case but it should be a cast iron rule and there should be a mechanism for it happening very quickly, say within a month of the changing of sides.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire

Who has the least principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrit Brown for welcoming him to the fold?
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Quentin will feel at home in the Labour Party - he's pro foxhunting and anti gay adoptions.

redcogs · June 2007

And surrounded by crawling middle class types who love an arrogant unprincipled egotistical upper class twit.

please look up to the stars.. ***

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ankev1

Should MPs who choose to change sides in the house be made to stand again in a by-election in their constituency?

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Definitely.

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by redcogs

the rich are adequately serviced by Labour

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It is true that Brown has been a great friend to the super-rich money men. But, more importantly and painfully, he has been expert at picking the pockets of ordinary folk while the benefits bonanza continues.

As usual, those n the middle have suffered most.

ransos · June 2007

Spire, you're presenting a false dichotomy - no party leader is going to pass up an opportunity to take on a defector, Cameron included. I saw Quentin on Newsnight last night - he's a complete nonentity but the idiot (Alan Duncan I think) who was debating with him was supercillious and conceited. Neither of them do politics any credit.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire

Who has the least principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrit Brown for welcoming him to the fold?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Who has the fewest principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrite Brown for welcoming him to the fold?

Really, spire - we expect better from a dyed-in-the-wool Tory.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ankev1

Should MPs who choose to change sides in the house be made to stand again in a by-election in their constituency?

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Definitely.
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+1 Absolutely
If they wish to change sides let the constituency vote as to whether they still want him representing them as their MP.

They should resign rather than defect

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spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NickM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire

Who has the least principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrit Brown for welcoming him to the fold?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Who has the fewest principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrite Brown for welcoming him to the fold?

Really, spire - we expect better from a dyed-in-the-wool Tory.
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Now this is an interesting point Nick. As you know I am a grammar fanatic and I did consider it. 'Principles' can be used in a general or specific sense (e.g. "He has principles," or a specific sense "There are four principles,") and I think in this context I was right, but I am happy to debate the point. (Could you count the number of principles Brown has?)

As for hypocrite: busy doing other things and not concentrating! [:I]

Unknown · June 2007

On Newsnight Quentin came across as a pompous old type Tory. So, it will be amusing to see if he's foisted on a traditional working class Labour constituency. Ebbw Vale would be a good one.

ankev1 · June 2007

I think it's "fewest principles" or "least number of principles".

spire · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Patrick Stevens

On Newsnight Quentin came across as a pompous old type Tory.

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Indeed.

Short term it has been a PR problem, but long term he is exactly the sort of 'legacy' MP Cameron wants to be rid of.

Unknown · June 2007

As the entire Labour party defected to the Tories in '97 I hardly think it matters.

Nobody ever got laid because they were using Shimano

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by ankev1

I think it's "fewest principles" or "least number of principles".
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How about "least principled?"

andyoxon · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NickM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by spire

Who has the least principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrit Brown for welcoming him to the fold?
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">Who has the fewest principles: slug Quentin for abandoning those who elected him, or hypocrite Brown for welcoming him to the fold?

Really, spire - we expect better from a dyed-in-the-wool Tory.
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As I understand it QD is standing down and not fighting the seat as for Labour. Which under the circumstances seems the 'right' thing to do..

I also saw Newsnight - and while I agree with some of the comments about QD, Duncan did not come across well; and it was a mistake to try and 'shoot' QD down - because it didn't work, backfired even.

--- Beware of 'all things being equal' - because very often they are not. ---

Gary Askwith · June 2007

I object to the association of innocent slugs with human political figures of contempt
Slugs are cute and useful in comparison

Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....

Max Weber · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">On Newsnight Quentin came across as a pompous old type Tory. So, it will be amusing to see if he's foisted on a traditional working class Labour constituency. Ebbw Vale would be a good one.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Shaun Woodward and his butler seem to have survived in St Helens!

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Max Weber

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">On Newsnight Quentin came across as a pompous old type Tory. So, it will be amusing to see if he's foisted on a traditional working class Labour constituency. Ebbw Vale would be a good one.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">

Shaun Woodward and his butler seem to have survived in St Helens!

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Do you remember the excellent joke - the question is not whether Shaun Woodward has a butler, but how many footmen he has?

andyoxon · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gary Askwith

I object to the association of innocent slugs with human political figures of contempt
Slugs are cute and useful in comparison

Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....

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They still get thrown into the pond for the large frogs, in our garden.[:p]

--- Beware of 'all things being equal' - because very often they are not. ---

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gary Askwith

I object to the association of innocent slugs with human political figures of contempt
Slugs are cute and useful in comparison<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">LOL [:D]

So you voted, and now you've got a government. I just hope YOU like it.

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyoxon

They still get thrown into the pond for the large frogs, in our garden.[:p]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">If snails are all called Brian, what are slugs called?

ransos · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyoxon

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Gary Askwith

I object to the association of innocent slugs with human political figures of contempt
Slugs are cute and useful in comparison

Economic Growth; as dead as a Yangtze River dolphin....

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They still get thrown into the pond for the large frogs, in our garden.[:p]

--- Beware of 'all things being equal' - because very often they are not. ---
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The ones I find in my veg patch get fed to my hens.

andyoxon · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by NickM

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyoxon

They still get thrown into the pond for the large frogs, in our garden.[:p]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">If snails are all called Brian, what are slugs called?
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Doug..? http://www.dougtheslug.com/

[:)][8)]

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Pizzaman · June 2007

Quentin Davies must be quite a bitter individual. If what really bothered him was Cameron's lack of substance (as he said it did), then why did he not resign the whip and become an independent Conservative (maybe because he would not be parachuted into a safe seat, a la Shaun Woodward, when his Constituency Party kicks his arse out).

No, he has chosen the route that will most embarrass the Tories (who seemed to have coped pretty well with this devastating loss!) I believe that he is a pompous old fart who got angry that Cameron had not been paying him enough attention. This could be good for Cameron, in a weird way, because he can use it as a 'you're with me or against me' tactic with the rest of his flakier MPs.

In the end though, none of this actually matters. What really is vital for Cameron is that he lays right into Broon from the off and doesn't let him build up any 'honeymoon' momentum. Blair built up this momentum, and it went on for 7 years!

andyoxon · June 2007

While on the subject of pond life in general...[;)] we also have leeches (non-bloodsucking) in our pond - now there's a naming challenge... Suggestions?

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Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyoxon

While on the subject of pond life in general...[;)] we also have leeches (non-bloodsucking) in our pond - now there's a naming challenge... Suggestions?

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If they are non bloodsucking then they'll never make it as lawyers.[:(]

Unknown · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyoxon

Doug..? http://www.dougtheslug.com/<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote">"Your organization's Internet use policy restricts access to this web page at this time.

Reason:
The Websense category "Games" is filtered.

URL:
http://www.dougtheslug.com/"

Arse! ("at this time", indeed... bloody American nannies now [V])

andyoxon · June 2007

oops - leading you astray there Nick [;)] By the way Doug likes to eat strawberries and crawl around on slime...

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Uncle Mort · June 2007

<blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by andyoxon

oops - leading you astray there Nick [;)] By the way Doug likes to eat strawberries and crawl around on slime...

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Don't we all? [:)]

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